Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
Ownage by Wolverine, i'm pretty sure of that. Sure, spiderman can dodge his attacks with his reflexes and throw some punches. Sure, spidey can knock him down. But because Wolverine can heal, that all is pretty worthless. If wolverine stabs spiderman, he dies, the other way around it doesn't.

He'd never let it come to that though. Spidey also has superhuman endurance and can fight Wolverine as long as he has to (as shown by his fight with Morlun). Spidey's determination and will to live is unsurpassed.

A web caccoon can slow Wolvie down. Hell, even a web-shot to the wrists will prove effective. Spidey has the necessary strength to basically pin Wolverine down and web him to the ground. With that done, it's webbing to the face and down the throat. And perhaps even a heart removal just to make sure.

But still, morally seen, in which situation will spidey ever kill wolverine, his friend ?

Originally posted by Scarlet_Spidey
But still, morally seen, in which situation will spidey ever kill wolverine, his friend ?

Gah. HYPOTHETICAL FIGHT. There is no "holding back" and "out-of-character" here. It's just who can defeat who with the powers/abilities/skills/techniques they have.

Cuz really, if you wanna go that route, in which situation would Wolverine ever kill Spidey, his friend?

Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality

It goes agaisn't Spider-man's character to kill so he wont, Wolverine however has no problems with it.

Thus making Wolverine the winner ...

"Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
[B]It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability[B] - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels."

Spidey doesn't need to be out for blood in order to kill Wolverine. He's fighting at his optium level of ability and using whatever tactics it takes to win. So, if his optimum ability allows him to kill Wolverine, then so be it. It's not like Spidey is trying to kill him, just happens to turn that way.

Spider-man has strict moral code. He isn't going to do anything that will kill someone or may result in any serious bodily harm. Default rules state that the characters can't do anything their personality wont allow. So in short you are arguing for a character with Spider-man's power set but who isn't Spider-man.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Spider-man has strict moral code. He isn't going to do anything that will kill someone or may result in any serious bodily harm. Default rules state that the characters can't do anything their personality wont allow. So in short you are arguing for a character with Spider-man's power set but who isn't Spider-man.

Eh. You can look at it that way if you want. I see it more as Spider-Man overestimating Wolverine's healing or underestimating his own strength against Wolvie.

But honestly, it doesn't really matter. Spidey can beat him without having to kill him. Which really is what I've been arguing pretty much the whole time.

Hey, hypothetical question. Since this is how you see it, would you agree with me that Ben Reily defeats Wolverine because he is without such a strict moral code? Not to say I still don't think Peter would win.

Hmm now with our new and improved Wolverine and Spiderman what say you!

Spider-man 6/10.

foolish consistencies are the hobgoblins of little minds.................it goes something like that, The Wolverine is a bit enhanced, perhaps if we say Spiderman can knock him out lol, certainly not kill lol.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Oh God. Another argument for his healing factor being able to instantly heal him like that. Okay. Wolverine heals very quickly. We know this. But it also takes more time depending on the severity of the wound. He heals bullet wounds quickly. He will not, however, be able to heal an arm through his torso in any sort of quick speed, especially with the arm still there and still causing damage.

Also, this is a hypothetical fight. PIS/CIS/Plot devices are a non-factor here. Spidey can do whatever the hell he wants to defeat his opponents. The out-of-character argument is null and void here.

wait.. that isn't spidey's plan of attack here is it? cause well we saw how well that tactic worked for silver samurai... 😕

Originally posted by Soleran
Hmm now with our new and improved Wolverine and Spiderman what say you!

😛

Actually this bump is kinda bad timing but oh well! The forum fire was burning low so I needed to see if either a SPEEDBLITZ could form or a Wolverine thread.

Originally posted by Soleran
Actually this bump is kinda bad timing but oh well! The forum fire was burning low so I needed to see if either a SPEEDBLITZ could form or a Wolverine thread.

Originally posted by badabing
Soleran you are the dev devil 😈 😈 .
😆

Eddie Murphy in the (horrible movie) Vampire in Brooklyn once said,

Evil is Good, now what good is the sun if it never rains..............exactly!

I don't know you're all nice on the forum and mafia gangsta off, your the Dark Side!

Wolverine isn't smart enough to use his martial arts experience effectively. He's not very effecient either, I don't think any other superhero has such a high percentage of getting their gut pierced. Spidergirl made Wolverine stick his own claws into his neck. Does Logan sound like a martial arts master? He might know the skills, but he's completely reckless. I was just reading a bunch of Wolverine comics, and in every one, he seems to get pierced in the chest or sliced in the stomach. He really is a very careless person. The last two Wolverine comics I read were Snikt! and Xisle. In Snikt, he gets pierced by needles through the chest and faints, and in Xisle, he gets clawed in the stomach by a giant gorilla, and faints. For that reason, I think his martial art skills should be negated in this debate. He simply sucks at using them.

Originally posted by Soleran
Eddie Murphy in the (horrible movie) Vampire in Brooklyn once said,

Evil is Good, now what good is the sun if it never rains..............exactly!

I don't know you're all nice on the forum and mafia gangsta off, your the Dark Side!

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Wolverine isn't smart enough to use his martial arts experience effectively. He's not very effecient either, I don't think any other superhero has such a high percentage of getting their gut pierced. Spidergirl made Wolverine stick his own claws into his neck. Does Logan sound like a martial arts master? He might know the skills, but he's completely reckless. I was just reading a bunch of Wolverine comics, and in every one, he seems to get pierced in the chest or sliced in the stomach. He really is a very careless person. The last two Wolverine comics I read were Snikt! and Xisle. In Snikt, he gets pierced by needles through the chest and faints, and in Xisle, he gets clawed in the stomach by a giant gorilla, and faints. For that reason, I think his martial art skills should be negated in this debate. He simply sucks at using them.

LOL just hilarious

Originally posted by MrHeavySilence
Wolverine isn't smart enough to use his martial arts experience effectively. He's not very effecient either, I don't think any other superhero has such a high percentage of getting their gut pierced. Spidergirl made Wolverine stick his own claws into his neck. Does Logan sound like a martial arts master? He might know the skills, but he's completely reckless. I was just reading a bunch of Wolverine comics, and in every one, he seems to get pierced in the chest or sliced in the stomach. He really is a very careless person. The last two Wolverine comics I read were Snikt! and Xisle. In Snikt, he gets pierced by needles through the chest and faints, and in Xisle, he gets clawed in the stomach by a giant gorilla, and faints. For that reason, I think his martial art skills should be negated in this debate. He simply sucks at using them.