Originally posted by Sparkzcause if he slammed him hard he would have made a wolverine indent in the wall.. he didn't.... it was a haphazard toss.... even then.. so what if he DID it still wouldn't matter has it's already been shown that his strength and lack of skill is not sufficient enough to really do anything to wolverine...
I stand corrected then, although it sounds stupid 😕How do you know Spidey was annoyed with him for hitting on MJ earlier, and he knew he wouldnt kill him so...
Originally posted by blind faith
IMO Spidey takes it more times than not.If Wolverine wins, it's by ONE very well placed hit from his claws.
Spidey wins 6-7/10.
wolverine has everlasting endurance thanks to healing factor. I can't remember one time seeing him winded. Unlike spiderman.
Spiderman is faster, but its a fight. Unless spiderman is running all day and night, hes gonna have to fihgt. which means he gets up in there. webbing is not something spidey can do all day long, cause wolverine could cut it up just as fast as spidey can shoot it out.. and even it wolverines caught, he can mentally draw the claws back in, then shoot them back out so he could cut himself free.
In this fight you have the man that can't be put down, vs. a guy with range. all wolverine has to do is tag spiderman once. wolverine 8/10
This is the same guy that dodges Ock's super-fast-moving tentacles with apparent ease for very lengthy fights. The same guy that is able to dodge the Lizard, even though he's faster. Same with the Scorpion. But apparently two sets of claws in the hands of a SLIGHTLY superhuman weilder are just too much for Spider-Man to dodge. 🤨
Originally posted by Sam Zso then wolverine can't compete speedwise because of your shortsightedness? 🤨
Sorry, i don't have spare life to search through entire 600 pages.
Originally posted by Sam Z
Ok, so you call that fight a fine writing?
more or less.. yeah it's a great display of both characters as they should be written.. funny how you ***** about spiderman's character.... you must not have read too much spectacular spiderman issues that came out in the same time frame since is a spiderman writer that wrote it...
Originally posted by Sam Zof course he did.. how would he know otherwise?.. remember the guy didn't start fighting superhumans until his hulk debut... Up to that point no one had ever tried to snap his neck, rip him apart etc etc.. he'd be under the same assumption that most people are who don't know about his BONDED skeleton.. that the skeleton wasn't infact bonded.. even though it was.
Wolverine himself admitts that Spider-man can snap his neck.
Originally posted by Sam Zthis is pre-carnage era... wouldn't you be scared of a guy that could kill you in one strike?
Spider-man is affraid of Wolverine, same guy that fought Carnage,
Originally posted by Sam Zfor somebody who's arguing over good and bad writing?
Thanos,
Originally posted by Sam Zand he was scared of hulk too the first time they fought.
Hulk
Originally posted by Sam Zlittle hairy man? yup.. if that's all you think logan is then what are you doing here?
etc got scared of little hairy man. Makes a lot of sense.
Originally posted by Sam ZAlways? hardly... we just realise that most time wolverine gets beaten it's through circumstantial evidence.. but while you're going to defend these ennis feats.. both of them are ennis feats btw.. then you need to realize that wolverine bypassed spiderman's webbing and flipkicked him in the sack in that same story arch so wolvie still wins...
Unforunatly everytime Wolverine gets beaten his hardcore fans always say it was bad writing. Like when Deardevil took him down by hitting him in his neck or when Punisher with baseball bat
Originally posted by Sam Znobody said anything CLOSE to that half assed logic.. 🤨
but when Spider-man can't dodge one Punisher shot it is just fine and proves that Wolverine is as fast.😬
wolverine's feats of speed that put him in or around the same league as spiderman are what makes him close to as fast.
Originally posted by Sam Zi like how you're trying to dictate what happened even though you haven't a rat's ass clue as to what I'm talking about... listen she was using cerebra to follow the fight.. she could see the fight as it was taking place.... but couldn't only barely retain what was taking place because they were moving faster then her mind could process the movement.. hence; faster than her mind could follow...
Telepath couldn't pick up on the moves because telepaths always have problems with Wolverine and it doesn't mean anything.
Originally posted by Sam Zsays the guy who cant be bothered to look at wolverine's speed feats in this thread.. and then ADMITTED that wasn't going to do that... 🙄 yes you're very credible in that statement.. especially considering the fact that.. oh wait. wolverine HAS..
The fact remains, Wolverine never showed speed that can compare with Spider's, like on that scan.
Originally posted by Sam Ztoo bad I wasn't even talking about dodging bullets.. 😬
Almost ALL comic books characters dodge bullets but it doesn't put them in the same league as Spider-man.
Originally posted by rotiart
Yep. cause wolverine wouldn't tire. He'd outlast Parker trying to put him down. Eventually Spidey would tire. and The rodent would step on the spider. There is almost no moves spidey knows that could put wolverine down. Wolverine only has to wear down spiderman to win it.
A wolverine is not a rodent. In fact, it is a member of the mustelid family, very closely related to the badger, weasel (and its similar brethren), skunk, and otter.
But I digress. Spidey doesn't exactly tire in five minutes. He basically fought Morlun almost straight for a whole day. And honestly? I think that's saying something, since Morlun didn't budge and was basically putting a bad hurt on Spidey during the entire battle, and yet he still kept coming.
Spidey can and will put Wolvie down long before he reaches the extreme regions of fatigue.
Originally posted by Metalmanxcombined with the guy who wields them.. well.. yeah.. comic have kind of proven that already...
This is the same guy that dodges Ock's super-fast-moving tentacles with apparent ease for very lengthy fights. The same guy that is able to dodge the Lizard, even though he's faster. Same with the Scorpion. But apparently two sets of claws in the hands of a SLIGHTLY superhuman weilder are just too much for Spider-Man to dodge. 🤨
see the thing is ... peak humans like cap, dd, and well.. wolverine actually... have all taken it to doc ock with a certain degree of success as well.... cap has outright humiliated scorpion in like what? 4 panals... and lizards (70's-current) just a mindless animal... hell cap has put down people that moved so fast they looked like telporters.. dd has danced circles around venom, and wolvies landed hits on speed demon... it's funny how you try to pawn these villians off as being on a higher tier than the hero in this thread when he or people below him have taken it to thse villians as well....
what some of these guys have in speed wolvie makes up for in stamina, or experience, or strategical awareness, etc, etc... there's a reason why wolvie ranked a 9 and spidey's an 8.
Originally posted by Metalmanxhe doesn't have to be in these.. "extreme regions" though.. all he needs is to be fatigued enough to slow down one split second and that's all wolvie need to take an advantage here. one split second. one well placed strike.. one dead spidey.
A wolverine is not a rodent. In fact, it is a member of the mustelid family, very closely related to the badger, weasel (and its similar brethren), skunk, and otter.But I digress. Spidey doesn't exactly tire in five minutes. He basically fought Morlun almost straight for a whole day. And honestly? I think that's saying something, since Morlun didn't budge and was basically putting a bad hurt on Spidey during the entire battle, and yet he still kept coming.
Spidey can and will put Wolvie down long before he reaches the extreme regions of fatigue.
Originally posted by jinzin
he doesn't have to be in these.. "extreme regions" though.. all he needs is to be fatigued enough to slow down one split second and that's all wolvie need to take an advantage here. one split second. one well placed strike.. one dead spidey.
Alright, allow me to rephrase my last sentence then.
Spidey can and will put Wolvie down long before he reaches any sort of hindering fatigue.
Originally posted by rotiartwell but Spider-Man is a class faster than Wolverine, and trust me, that's a fact, not an opinion. I would be truly amazed if Wolverine even could get past or even punch Spidey.
wolverine has everlasting endurance thanks to healing factor. I can't remember one time seeing him winded. Unlike spiderman.Spiderman is faster, but its a fight. Unless spiderman is running all day and night, hes gonna have to fihgt. which means he gets up in there. webbing is not something spidey can do all day long, cause wolverine could cut it up just as fast as spidey can shoot it out.. and even it wolverines caught, he can mentally draw the claws back in, then shoot them back out so he could cut himself free.
In this fight you have the man that can't be put down, vs. a guy with range. all wolverine has to do is tag spiderman once. wolverine 8/10
And I think the same can be said about Wolverine, he ain't running around all day and night so he's gonna have to close in and fight too and try to get a hit on Spidey and I just don't see that happening, I just don't think Wolverine can punch someone with a Spider-sense and like 30x enchanced reflexes. So it all depends on who starts to close in and fight the other.
I rspect all opinion's here but I just think Spidey would win this for following reasons.
Spiderman out classes Wolverine in speed, agility, strength and intellect. The only things I see Wolverine has going for him are his senses (which aren't much against Spider-sense), his healing factor (big whoop. Even if you survive being knocked unconcious by a man who can bench press toyotas, you still get knocked out) and his fighting skills (all right, but how does it help him against someone who moves like 20x times faster?) Does Logan really have much chances of winning?
Originally posted by rotiart
Yep. cause wolverine wouldn't tire. He'd outlast Parker trying to put him down. Eventually Spidey would tire. and The rodent would step on the spider. There is almost no moves spidey knows that could put wolverine down. Wolverine only has to wear down spiderman to win it.
Rotiart is backwards for Traitor.