Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by blind faith
The only things I see Wolverine has going for him are his senses (which aren't much against Spider-sense),

Originally posted by blind faith
his healing factor (big whoop. Even if you survive being knocked unconcious by a man who can bench press toyotas, you still get knocked out)

Originally posted by blind faith
and his fighting skills (all right, but how does it help him against someone who moves like 20x times faster?) Does Logan really have much chances of winning?

Originally posted by jinzin
so then wolverine can't compete speedwise because of your shortsightedness? 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin

this is pre-carnage era... wouldn't you be scared of a guy that could kill you in one strike?

Originally posted by jinzin

and he was scared of hulk too the first time they fought.

Originally posted by jinzin

little hairy man? yup.. if that's all you think logan is then what are you doing here?

Originally posted by jinzin

Always? hardly... we just realise that most time wolverine gets beaten it's through circumstantial evidence.. but while you're going to defend these ennis feats.. both of them are ennis feats btw.. then you need to realize that wolverine bypassed spiderman's webbing and flipkicked him in the sack in that same story arch so wolvie still wins...

Originally posted by jinzin

wolverine's feats of speed that put him in or around the same league as spiderman are what makes him close to as fast.

i like how you're trying to dictate what happened even though you haven't a rat's ass clue as to what I'm talking about... listen she was using cerebra to follow the fight.. she could see the fight as it was taking place.... but couldn't only barely retain what was taking place because they were moving faster then her mind could process the movement.. hence; faster than her mind could follow...

says the guy who cant be bothered to look at wolverine's speed feats in this thread.. and then ADMITTED that wasn't going to do that... 🙄 yes you're very credible in that statement.. especially considering the fact that.. oh wait. wolverine HAS..

I don't need explanation that is based on how you see it, give me exact scan that would show that Wolverine's speed is on pair with Spider-man's. And funny thing, even in your wellwritten fight where Spider-man was moving SLOW(according to him) Wolverine couldn't hit him untill Spider-man allowed him to do so, so how the hell it puts Wolverine in the same league?

Originally posted by jinzin
but they DO slow bullets down into slow motion to his minds eye proving themselves to be a usefull tool..

Originally posted by jinzin
except that, even though spiderman has the strength he lacks the skill to KO wolverine.. he's proved this on several occasions... he's NEVER successfully KOed wolverine.....

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah he does.. cause spiderman doesn't move 20x faster.. that's just some goofy number you've made up in your head... hell you even said that fact/stat wise spidey's in one class range over wolves.. he's clearly not 20 times faster.. going by comics.. he's BARELY faster.. if AT ALL.... don't mistake his precog for speed when speedwise they have shown plenty the same kinds of feats...

Originally posted by Sam Z
No, because he NEVER did speed feat that can be compared for example to dodging bullet that is a feet away from you body. Now, you'll start whining that to see it I have to read 600 pages of this thread but I'm not going to do this, if you have something to offer to prove otherwise then show me scan.

Originally posted by Sam Z
If i was a guy who dodges multiple gun fire everyday without being affraid to be killed, then - no, i wouldn't be scared of the guy.

if you were that guy but tough street level fighters gave you hell that aren't even on wolverine's level then yeah you'd probably be pretty damned timid...

Originally posted by Sam Z
But it didn't effected his speed. And Wolverine did. makes a lot of sense. 🙄

Originally posted by Sam Z
Yes, that's what he is comparing to other guys Spider-man fought,

Originally posted by Sam Z
and i don't care if this fight was before or after because if spider-man is suposed to fight slow everytime he faces dangerous opponent then he would've been dead by now, but by some strange reason it happened only when he fought Wolverine.

Originally posted by Sam Z
And what is the evidence of getting beaten by baseball bat?

what does that question even mean? all I'm saying is that if you're willing to except that stuff as credible examples from ennis' story arch then wolvie humiliated spiderman in the same story... thus he still wins.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I don't need explanation that is based on how you see it, give me exact scan that would show that Wolverine's speed is on pair with Spider-man's. And funny thing, even in your wellwritten fight where Spider-man was moving SLOW(according to him) Wolverine couldn't hit him untill Spider-man allowed him to do so, so how the hell it puts Wolverine in the same league?

it really has nothing to do with how I see this fight going down.. it has everything to do with the multiple evidence that marvel has produced so far.... I used to be in favor of spiderman winning this, but then I saw all the contrary evidence... now I think otherwise.. as for wolvie's speed feats.. go through his respect thread.. there's a few in there too... I'm not doing your research for you.. all these points I've already proven over and over again.. I'm not going to do it AGAIN cause you came in late and are too stubbern to do your proper homework

Originally posted by blind faith
OK, but I haven't seen this so if you don't mind, you could show me a scan of this, just show me and I won't bother you anymore with this question.

they explain it in weapon x.. sorry I'd find the quote for you but I don't remember what page it's on.. it's in the later chapters of the book... they explain that wolverine's senses always remain in a state of hyperactivity and even this goes through an influx during berserker rages..

but here's an example. http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv2133p04jc7.jpg

notice: wolverine tilts his head avoiding the shot recognizing the path of the oncoming bullet.. then speedblitzes his attacker faster than the assailant can fire another shot and this was from some 20 yards away.. literally....

Originally posted by blind faith
and what is this "skill" he misses, I mean, Peter has been fighting crimes since he was a teen, he knows how to draw power correctly, he knows how to fight so why does he lack the skill in KOing Logan?

also he lacks the knowledge of striking at specific nerve points to take wolvie down.. which is almost a must if you're not over class 50 and intend to KO the guy... plenty of his brick fights can be drawn upon to prove this point.

Originally posted by blind faith
wow calm down, I may have exaggerated about Spidey being 20x faster, but he is a bit faster if we are talking about facts. And when I said that he was a class faster I was reffering to the handbooks as well, it says Wolverine's speed 2/7 and Spidey's is 3/7 but alright, if we are going by comics as you said, then yeah maybe Spidey isn't very much faster...

and.. i am calm.. 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
they explain it in weapon x.. sorry I'd find the quote for you but I don't remember what page it's on.. it's in the later chapters of the book... they explain that wolverine's senses always remain in a state of hyperactivity and even this goes through an influx during berserker rages..

but here's an example. http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenv2133p04jc7.jpg

notice: wolverine tilts his head avoiding the shot recognizing the path of the oncoming bullet.. then speedblitzes his attacker faster than the assailant can fire another shot and this was from some 20 yards away.. literally....

because he has absolutely no formal training.. for instance.. a good fighter can generate a couple hundreds pounds of pressure per suqre in inch in any decent punch and up to 2,000 pounds of pressure in a kick.. it's FARRR more weight in pressure than they can lift.. but it's due to their ability to use their body to the best of it's potential... though spiderman may be able to lift 20 tons he lacks the skill to assert more pressure into his hits.. I doubt that he gets in a third of his lifting potential in any given hit that he lands...

also he lacks the knowledge of striking at specific nerve points to take wolvie down.. which is almost a must if you're not over class 50 and intend to KO the guy... plenty of his brick fights can be drawn upon to prove this point.

even going by class levels ONE level isn't that big a diff... for instance ghost rider is classed to be faster than spiderman.... in fights though this is hardly evident... same with these two.

and.. i am calm.. 😕

I think Spider-Man would win this.

"CLAWS." That's all I have to say.

Originally posted by blind faith
I rspect all opinion's here but I just think Spidey would win this for following reasons.

Spiderman out classes Wolverine in speed, agility, strength and intellect. The only things I see Wolverine has going for him are his senses (which aren't much against Spider-sense), his healing factor (big whoop. Even if you survive being knocked unconcious by a man who can bench press toyotas, you still get knocked out) and his fighting skills (all right, but how does it help him against someone who moves like 20x times faster?) Does Logan really have much chances of winning?

You can't say things like that, Y'know why? because you are being perfectly logical and sensible. You are using logic and logic undermines wolverine fanboys 😄

But in all seriousness I agree entirely with your points ✅

Spider-Man>Wolverine

You=Stupid 🙄

Here's why Spider-Man is alot faster then Wolverine.

Spider-Man can put up 20 or more tons if he's really being put to the test, you take that and the fact that he weighs only 165 to 170 and that equals one fast mother ****er.

Originally posted by Broly92
You=Stupid 🙄

You're mom=My hoe

Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
You're mom=My hoe

What is this spelling, equations?

Originally posted by Broly92
You=Gay Hoe

You're moms putting in over time for that.

Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
You're moms putting in over time for that.

but this is off topic and stupid sorry

Originally posted by batdude123
"CLAWS." That's all I have to say.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He only beats Superman not Spiderman. 😉

Nope, he pretty much owns anybody under Thanos level. 😬

Except Spiderman of course lol