Originally posted by jinzinJin, I read entire Wolverine respect thread long time ago and when it's updated i always read it because as I already said, i like Wolverine. But there is NO feats that proves Wolverine has close to Spider-man's speed. There are few scans of him cutting guns fast, and one scan where one soldier couldn't track him. And this is not a big deal comparing to Spider-man's feats like dodging dozens lasers in close range or the scan i posted above - dodging bullet that was 1 feet away from his body.
he's cut bullets and rocket powered darts out of the air.. he's snagged an oncoming missile as it was abou to pass him by.. 😐 he easily has comparible speed feats.
Originally posted by jinzin
except that wolverine isn't a bullet 😐if you were that guy but tough street level fighters gave you hell that aren't even on wolverine's level then yeah you'd probably be pretty damned timid...
Originally posted by jinzinLike I said, Wolverine is just a short hairy over 100 years old man with adamantium claws comparing to some other guys Spider-man fought.
🙄 like I said.. you really don't belong in this thread if that's what you really think....
Originally posted by jinzin
again wolverine was f'n with his head.. trying to use his own code of ethics against him... it's not out of the question that spiderman can lose a bluff or be messed with on a mental playing feild.. hell mysterio should have shown you that by now.
Originally posted by jinzinWhat humiliation has to do here? Humiliation for Wolverine was hanging with his fists webbed to his head, but it doesn't matter. I asked bat question because everytime Wolverine gets beaten and KOed there are allways excuses for that like "it is obviously bad writing" or "his healing factor was working only at 12,03%" etc.
what does that question even mean? all I'm saying is that if you're willing to except that stuff as credible examples from ennis' story arch then wolvie humiliated spiderman in the same story... thus he still wins.
Originally posted by jinzinAnd what makes you think Wolverine didn't tried? He actually tried few times but couldn't untill Spider-man allowed him, and when he saw that Spider-man is not trying to dodge he took away his claws and attacked with fists.
granted the fact that wolverine was holding back against him? think about it.. every other time wolverine intends to hit spiderman he does so... during the graveyard fight wolverine let spiderman pound him in the face.. during that fight wolverine had several chances to stab and end spiderman.. he took advantage of NONE of them.. spiderman hit wolvie with everything he had.. it had no effect... spiderman ran out of options wolverine didn't.. wolverine wonby default..
Originally posted by jinzin
it really has nothing to do with how I see this fight going down.. it has everything to do with the multiple evidence that marvel has produced so far.... I used to be in favor of spiderman winning this, but then I saw all the contrary evidence... now I think otherwise.. as for wolvie's speed feats.. go through his respect thread.. there's a few in there too... I'm not doing your research for you.. all these points I've already proven over and over again.. I'm not going to do it AGAIN cause you came in late and are too stubbern to do your proper homework
Originally posted by Sam Z
Jin, I read entire Wolverine respect thread long time ago and when it's updated i always read it because as I already said, i like Wolverine. But there is NO feats that proves Wolverine has close to Spider-man's speed. There are few scans of him cutting guns fast, and one scan where one soldier couldn't track him. And this is not a big deal comparing to Spider-man's feats like dodging dozens lasers in close range or the scan i posted above - dodging bullet that was 1 feet away from his body.Spider-man said he was affraid to die.😬 Guy who is being close to death everyday in his life got scared of 6 adamantium claws. As i said - makes a lot of sense 🙄
Like I said, Wolverine is just a short hairy over 100 years old man with adamantium claws comparing to some other guys Spider-man fought.
According to Spider-man he was moving slow and Wolverine still couldn't get him dispite of trying untill Spider-man allowed him. Really, how it makes him as fast?
What humiliation has to do here? Humiliation for Wolverine was hanging with his fists webbed to his head, but it doesn't matter. I asked bat question because everytime Wolverine gets beaten and KOed there are allways excuses for that like "it is obviously bad writing" or "his healing factor was working only at 12,03%" etc.
What would stop Spider-man from hitting Wolverine in his neck like daredevil did but with class 15 attack?And what makes you think Wolverine didn't tried? He actually tried few times but couldn't untill Spider-man allowed him, and when he saw that Spider-man is not trying to dodge he took away his claws and attacked with fists.
As i said before I check his respect thread pretty often and read it all.
You changed your mind, ok. But fact remains. I never saw Wolverine dodging bullet that is feet away from his body or dozens lasers at the same time from close range.
Spider-man has majority of advantages and many ways to take Wolverine down.
Speed - Spider-man
Reflexes - Spider-man
Senses - Spider-man (in the fight spider sense is much more handy then enhased hearing or smell)
Agility - Spider-man
Skills - Wolverine (amd that doesn't matter when opponent is faster and stronger than you)
The only real advantage Wolverine has is durability and even with it he still can be beaten by street level characters.
So class 15 hit in the throat for example will end this fight.
Originally posted by Broly92
Originally posted by Sam Z
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t413038.html
Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah, and don't forget allmighty motherbox batman
Originally posted by Broly92
But Wolverine has this
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max0009jpgw1tb.jpg
😛
Yeah lol and better temper as well.
