Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

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capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Again, if we used that logic, you should've stopped a long time ago.

However, we don't work that way, so this really shouldn't even be an issue.

Now, back on topic if you don't mind?

Spidey wins 7/10.


I was kciked out don't you remeber? Hell you must of said about 10 times how glad you were I was gone.

I came back with better knowledge of all around characters and a better understanding of the rules of this forum and i have been fine ever since.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Kid. Stop spamming. Here's my proof: MARVEL WROTE THAT STUFF. I don't have a scanner, idiot.

you can't just say marvel wrote the stuff as prove. how dumb are you?
just give me comic numbers and titles and I would not lie if I was you becuase I own many many many many spiderman comics

Ultraman Baltan Restricted
Originally posted by capt it up
I know lol, but I hope you all realize I was not serous lol. i can't actauly make the kid stop he just should becuase he going to sound rediculous.

Like you are right now? Seriously, man. I came to this forum for a good time. Not to "lie" about everything. So, I'm walking away from this knowing only that you are an irritating fanboy that trusts no one and is hated by most.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder

Originally posted by capt it up
I was kciked out don't you remeber? Hell you must of said about 10 times how glad you were I was gone.

I came back with better knowledge of all around characters and a better understanding of the rules of this forum and i have been fine ever since.

I won't lie, I was happy when you first left. Honestly, you were a little prick with a disgusting obsession with Wolverine, no offense.

However, I've come to tolerate you and even accept having you around more now, especially since you've, since then, gained more knowledge of other characters. Like you said, you have indeed been better since. And I think everyone is happier for it. I know I am. I am glad for your more-knowledgable return. Keep it up, man.

Spider-Man 7/10.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder
Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Like you are right now? Seriously, man. I came to this forum for a good time. Not to "lie" about everything. So, I'm walking away from this knowing only that you are an irritating fanboy that trusts no one and is hated by most.

Come on, bro. Don't leave just yet. Stick around, stay awhile. Give us some input. You seem alright to me.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Like you are right now? Seriously, man. I came to this forum for a good time. Not to "lie" about everything. So, I'm walking away from this knowing only that you are an irritating fanboy that trusts no one and is hated by most.

lol hated by most? I liked here by quite a few people. Me and metal don't get a long, but it not like we hate eachother hell I don't even hate grimm22.

Nice worming your way outa proving what you said.

You lied just admitt it.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I won't lie, I was happy when you first left. Honestly, you were a little prick with a disgusting obsession with Wolverine, no offense.

However, I've come to tolerate you and even accept having you around more now, especially since you've, since then, gained more knowledge of other characters. Like you said, you have indeed been better since. And I think everyone is happier for it. I know I am. I am glad for your more-knowledgable return. Keep it up, man.

Spider-Man 7/10.


thanks

riceroost Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Capt, if we could just declare people unable to post in these threads just because we didn't like them, you would've been gone looong ago, my friend. So just live it and respect other's opinions. It's hard I know (believe me, I know), but you pretty much don't have a choice in the matter.
Hard to respect other people's opinions when they are outright lying about something and we all know it.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Capt, if we could just declare people unable to post in these threads just because we didn't like them, you would've been gone looong ago, my friend. So just live it and respect other's opinions. It's hard I know (believe me, I know), but you pretty much don't have a choice in the matter.

Cap is right on a certain level though. If someone don't have sufficient knowledge of both characters then they should have the good graces not to post in the thread. Lots of these threads are bogged down with the useless opinions of people who read a Wikipedia entry and now fell they have ample data on the character to make an educated opinion. But I guess if we only allow people who know what they are talking about to post that would cut down the posters in favour of Spider-man winning by about 90% in all his vs threads.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

It's likely a stalemate. I can't in call my reasoning see how spidey is going to put wolverine down. Spidey doen't have the strength or weapons to do it. He does have speed and strength enough to keep wolvie at bay.

Dinalfos Lord Caco

If he really wants to, really really REALLY wants to, he can choke him to death. He could beat him down 'n dizzy for a second, then web him.

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cap is right on a certain level though. If someone don't have sufficient knowledge of both characters then they should have the good graces not to post in the thread. Lots of these threads are bogged down with the useless opinions of people who read a Wikipedia entry and now fell they have ample data on the character to make an educated opinion. But I guess if we only allow people who know what they are talking about to post that would cut down the posters in favour of Spider-man winning by about 90% in all his vs threads.

😆

It's funny, cause it's true.

Murda Ma$e ...

I think Spider-Man would win this.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Murda Ma$e
lol Where'd you get that?

Seeee Spider-Man is to fast for Wolverine.

a clip of spiderman that came out of the sunday paper... not exactly the most canon of materials... 😬

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by lft4ded
I vaguely recall an image of Ba'al trying to pull Wolverine's arms out of their sockets. I don't remember him trying to twist Wolverine's head around on his shoulders.
okay well then sabretooth HAS.. AFTER weapon x the series.. which mans AFTER his strength enhancements... and.. STILL FAILED.

badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by Ultraman Baltan
Like you are right now? Seriously, man. I came to this forum for a good time. Not to "lie" about everything. So, I'm walking away from this knowing only that you are an irritating fanboy that trusts no one and is hated by most.

Wow, what an excellent post. You've been a member for a day and you know everyone and everything. Logan winning against Peter is not an impossibility because it has happened. IMO, Spider-Man would win more but certainly not all of their battles. BTW, a lot of people like Capt. At least he backs up his opinion with scans and issues. You don't bring any evidence and seem to just bash people who disagree with you.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Sam Z
First of all I want to pay your attention that you used word "PIS" like 10 times during this post. And as I said, it is a cheap excuse.

No it in no way is a cheap excuse. The comics scans you showed were of PIS filled comics and they were PIS filled events. Ennis comics are known to be filled with PIS so why are you even using them as evidence? Wolverine in those scan was way below his norm and not to mention wolverine has taken swords to the throat and been fine, but yet a jabb with a hand to the throat effects him.

Originally posted by Sam Z
fear Man my bad lol

Dam right it was your bad you baby eater lol

Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah right, the truth is that you have excuses for every book where Wolverine fails to do something.

Not at all I only tell you how it is and Ennis writes PIS filled comic and that’s a fact. Those two issue were bull shit and not valid evidences.

Originally posted by Sam Z
When he gets pwned by Cyclops in h2h fight and Wolverine also uses claws

How about we go over a few things you left out. First of all this is wolverine pre being written as a mutant with a healing factor and a master of martial arts. This all took place before his first mini. Also I would like to add in the fact that you have clearly never read this issue, so I will tell you why that hurts your case so much. Wolverine mind had just been ****ed with to the extreme he had been killed in his mind over and over. He was crazy he was scared shitless of him self and that why scot attacked him to snapp wolverine out of it because that would be a fate worse then death for wolverine. Wolverine was far from peak ability at that time. Also you forgot to show the rest of the scan were scot ends the fight because he would have died if it continued.

Originally posted by Sam Z
but his "spider-man-like" speed doesn't helps him,

Sweet nice using pre written mutant wolverine. Nor did spidermans when he fought a lone cyber ninja as seen below
http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wn7rm9.jpg
Also wolverine takes on multiple cyber ninjas at once with out taking hits and spiderman has trouble with one? Two can play this game of using low end feats and PIS events.

Originally posted by Sam Z
or that he gets pwned by deadpool pretty often,

Not at all. Actually DP has never pwned wolverine. Wolverine always out fights DP ass. The only reason DP ever wins is due to a plot device such as wolverine having no healing factor.

http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsdpaa7.png

Originally posted by Sam Z
even if Deadpool doesn't leaves him uncouncious he always cuts Wolverine first.

Again another false remark by you. Wolverine is the one who normally get the first cut in such as in the scan below
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page04059kskt9.jpg

Originally posted by Sam Z
Interesting fact for someone with Wolverine's speed and skills. It is always PIS, badwriting or one time deal.

No you just happen to pick extremely bad examples. Lets see you picked two examples from ennis which were so filled with BS that one of them I think was later said to be a dream if I am not mistaken. Your other example was of thing Koing wolverine in a single hit which is not very accurate since evidence after evidence shows that people as strong and stronger then thing have failed to KO wolverine in a single hit. Even thing him self has later failed to KO wolverine even after hitting him as hard as he could

Originally posted by Sam Z
You can't judge correctly because you base yourself on your limitless love to the character.

I can’t correctly judge? Who the one who thinks spiderman can’t be touched? Oh that’s right that would be you. Who the one that thinks spiderman is far superior in speed agility and reflex even though characters such as wolverine, DD, capt have all comparable feats with spidermans. Yet you still have the nerve to try and tell me that spiderman is far superior in those areas even though spiderman has no feats that out does any of theses 3. So I ask again who the one who lets there limitless love of there character blind there judgment?

Originally posted by Sam Z
I don't care, call it PIS CIS etc

When they are I will thank you very much.

Originally posted by Sam Z
but that are comicbook fact you don't want to accept and it is only your problem.

Go look under the forum rules. Look at blood lusted and no mention of PIS because you obviously need to read the rules of this forum because you clearly don’t know them.
Also by your logic wolverine heal from a nuke in venom on the run is usable evidence? Or how about Logan healing from burning burned to a skeleton in wolverine civil war?
Or how about squirl girl beating thanos? Does that mean squirl girl>thanos?

Originally posted by Sam Z
I gave you scans.

Oh you mean those ennis issues. The ones that were full of PIS and plot devices? You mean the one were in that same issue wolveriner drank acid and spiderman got tricked by fake bombs? Oh and by the way wolverine was never Koed in either scans so your argument is pretty mute.

Originally posted by Sam Z
But you as usually prefere to whine.

How am I whining, because I am proving to you that your scans are PIS?

Originally posted by Sam Z
I gave you many examples,
No you did not. You gave me one example and that was of juggernaut KOing a non mutant and non healing factor wolverine. How does that account for many examples?

[QUOTE=7114395]Originally posted by Sam Z
[B]but you have cheap excuses for everything.


Cheap excuses? I am telling you how it is and you call it a cheap excuses. I am sorry, but no ones making excuses the fact is wolverine was not written with a healing factor or as a mutant during that time.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Remeber when Spider-man was on Juggernauts back?

Yes I recall the issue, but I do not recall the number or titles could you give it to me.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Juggernaut hit him like 5 times.

As I recall it was twice
Originally posted by Sam Z
And I'm not trying to say he has better durability and I told you that in my previous post.

Good because if you were you be terribly foolish.

Originally posted by Sam Z
😆 Ok so now you are going to base your self on that Spider-man is to kind to puch in the throat. lol That "argument" sounds familliar and is hillarious because this is comicbook vs forum. If you are really going to base yourself on his kindness, good luck with that.

Were the hell did you get all this from. When did I ever say spiderman was to kind to aim for the throat? This is what I said
“When has spiderman ever aimed for the throat in a fight? Can you even show one example of spiderman punching some one in the throat?”

Were the hell do you get me saying spiderman is to kind to punch some one in the throat from what I said? I think you had no prove that Spiderman has ever hit some one in the throat so you decided to try and weave around the argument. The fact of the matter is spiderman has never hit some one in the throat, I how ever am not saying he would not, but it would never be a game plain of his because he has never done it before so he won’t be thinking to trying it. Also what makes you think he will be able to hit it? Also if he tried to hit it he leave him self open and would die. Also what makes you think it would ever work? Wolverine has taken shots from far strong people then spiderman to the head which also causes neck damage and wolverine has been fine what makes you think a punch to the throat from spiderman would do any thing?

Originally posted by Sam Z
Funny how you scream about PIS

When have I screamed at all let a lone PIS? I have merely stated what was PIS and what was not.

Originally posted by Sam Z
but think that Spider-man that is scared of Wolverine is just fine written story.

If it was written with current Spiderman then no that would not be well written, but the fact is that was written back during classic Spiderman days when he was still in experiences. Why would spiderman not have been scared? Who had spiderman fought that was as deadly as wolverine? Spiderman had just saw his friend murder earlier that day, not to mention he had watch wolverine murder countless people. Spiderman had seen more killing that day then he ever seen in his live up till that point so of course he was scared. Spiderman had also never met some one who moved almost on par with him and wolverine makes almost ever one scared hell he had warpath scared shitless of him before.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I'm using not a PIS,

The fact is both those ennis storys were PIS, so yes you are and you need to know you are. I can prove both of them were since wolverine had taken swords to the throat and been fine how the hell do you explain him being so hurt from a jab? You have no reason you just have no better argument so you cling to PIS events.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Sam Z
I'm using canon story

So your point? PIS stories are still canon. Example squirl girl beating thanos was cannon. Also wolverine surviving a nuke was cannon. Wolverine surviving nitro was canon. So what’s your point in saying it canon?

Originally posted by Sam Z
where Wolverine got owned and I don't care what happened next.

You are clinging to ennis comics because the fact is that your only argument because you have nuthing else. How about you find better arguments then PIS valid comics and events. Both those scans are PIS comic and events so there not valid on the forum so why are you still trying to use them as evidence.

Originally posted by Sam Z
You always like saying "don't trust directories, books are really inmportant"

When have I ever once said this line? Your quoting some thing as if I said it, but the fact is I did not. I am one of the people is think the hand books are good to and extent. The hand books give you basic evidence, though some times they tend to list the character weaker then they are in term of powers how ever they can still be use as evidence to an extent unless comic evidence proves other wises repeatedly.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and this way you prove that he is not pick human, ok. "

Not at all and what the hell is a “pick” human? I think you mean peak human. Any ways you are sadly mistaken one of the leading sources that say wolverine is in fact superhuman is the hand books and other marvel guides such as
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003

Originally posted by Sam Z
Books say that Wolverine can be beaten with hit in the throat by characters much weaker than Spider-man"

That was one single event and it was PIS, by a PIS writer. Here I will prove just why it was PIS. In (x-men # 72 ) marrow stabs a bone dagger straight through wolverine throat and all it manage to do was hurt Logan and send him into a rage were he almost kill marrow until cannonball saves her.
Last time I check bone dagger to the throat>>>>>>>>jab.
Next example is in is in ( wolverine # 30 agent of shield part 5) were wolverine takes a sword straight through the throat from gorgon into the wall and the only thing it manage to do was hold wolverine there because wolverine did not have the leverage to pull it out. Wolverine was not only talking, but was trying to rip the sword out and was far from out of the fight.
Last time a checked sword through the throat>>>>>>>>>>>>jab.
Next example is from ( wolverine 31) wolverine gets a sword through the throat and keeps on fighting even with two people holding his arms and a third holding the sword that is still inside of wolverine throat.
Sword in throat>>>>>>>>>>>>jab.
Next example from ( wolverine # 184) 5 bullets go through wolverine throat and he does not even flinch.
Last time I checked bullets through the throat>>>>>jab.
So please enlighten me how that is not PIS when wolverine has repeatedly taken swords and bullets through the throat and kept on fight, yet he could not take a jab. That scan you showed is PIS and all the prove points to hit. Stop cling to your sad sad argument.
Originally posted by Sam Z
and by hit in the balls"

Again a nuther sad argument. Both these scans below would be far more pain full then being hit in the balls and yet wolverine is fine
Wolverine on firer which is so much worse then getting hit in the balls with a bat it not even funny.
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mcp83pg5edited2jrxd2.jpg

Wolverine with 100s of bullets in him which again is way more pain full the getting hit in the balls with a bat.
http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5599de7bxg3.jpg

Wolverine getting shot with many many bullets again which is far more painfull then getting hit in the balls
http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loganib5.jpg

Originally posted by Sam Z
or by slap from Juggernaut"

seriously are you going to keep using this terrible examples as evidences? First of wolverine took two punches then the slap. Also sweet example, using a pre written healing factor and mutant wolverine. How many times you going to try and sue this example as standard evidence when wolverine did not even have a healing factor. Also the evidence is again against you, seeing how wolverine has repeatedly taken far more this with out being KO.
Such as when Sas attacked wolverine and as you can see wolverine is far from KOed
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cheapshotke4.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=morecheapnessvy3.jpg

Also when hulk went rip on wolverine as you can, see Logan is again far from out of the fight.
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smashfk5.jpg

Theses are just two examples from many.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and that Deapool is faster than Wolverine. "

Were does it ever show this? Can you prove this because I would love to see that.

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Originally posted by Sam Z
And don't even bother givving cheap excuses, i don't care. "

What excuses? I have been proving to you that the scans you were using are PIS. That’s not an excuses that is fact.
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Originally posted by Sam Z
I know that Wolverine can be KOed by streetlevelers"

Really? Were did you come up with this conculsion? Wolverine can be KOed, but you have yet to show valid proof of a street leveler doing it.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and his speed is not close to Spider-man's. "

You keep saying you know this you know that yet you have no valid proof what so ever. Wolverine can match ever one of Spiderman’s speed feats and yet you still say you know Spiderman is far faster. How do you come up with this crap how do you know some thing when you have no proof of it?

Originally posted by Sam Z
Yeah a lot of sense. 🙄

It makes perfect sense actually?

Originally posted by Sam Z
Hulk never made Spider-man move slow,

Did hulk ever fight Spiderman back then? As I recall didn’t wolverine fight Spiderman before hulk ever did. Also who said spiderman was moving slow? Spidemrna said I feel like im moving slow in no way does that mean he is moving slow. Spiderman was scared and had to that point never faced off such a against such a dangerous opponent who could move almost as fast as him so of course he thought he was moving slow because wolverine was keeping up with him and he was not sue to that,

Originally posted by Sam Z
Carnage never did that,

Ya and carnage never fought spiderman back then. After that fight spiderman had a huge story arc because of all that happened and his character change because of the fact he killed some one. The spiderman that fought carnage was way more experienced then the one who fought wolverine back then.

Originally posted by Sam Z
fighting dozens guys with guns never made him affraid of death

Yes but then again he never saw them kill a whole bunch of people in front of his eye, nor do those guys keep up with him in speed.

Originally posted by Sam Z
but Wolverine da man did it. 🙄 And again, how is Wolverine as fast as Spider-man if he couldn't hit him untill Spider-man allowed him

Nice example except you for got one key thing, Spiderman did not get a hit in until wolverine allowed Spiderman to hit him.

Originally posted by Sam Z
even though Spider-man was moving slow.

Again Spiderman was not moving slowly, he only felt like he was moving slowly because wolverine was keeping up with him and Spiderman was scared

Originally posted by Sam Z
No, not speed, nor reflexes, sorry.

How can you say this when wolverine ahs hit Spiderman and has comparable feats in theses areas. You are letting your love of your character blind you.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Sam Z
Running speed? Who's talking about running, I'm talking about moving during the fight and reflexrs + sense. Spider IS faster and has better reflexes.

Yet wolverine has comparable feats. Yes I agree spiderman is faster, but such a small amount that it would matter not at all in a fight.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Want to hear ways to take out Logan?

Sure, but coming from you there bound to be extremely BIAS and unlikely.

Originally posted by Sam Z
As you said 1)constantly pound on him and it
would have effect. Not instantly but would.

ya, but see the only way spiderman could do that is if wolverine allowed him to and even then that has yet two work for spiderman

Originally posted by Sam Z
2) Kick him in the balls

Which in no way would put logan down which I have already proven.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and since Spider-man is faster it would be walk in the park for him to perform such kick.

Not at all. Spiderman would have extremely difficult time pulling this off. Spiderman speed feat is so slight that it would matter not at all in this fight. Wolverine would be able to block any attacks aimed for that area and if Spiderman tried this attack he would lose his leg or die because it would leave him terribly open. Also wolverine a martial artist a master of it and would know many way to protect that area while in battle. If Spiderman tried what you are suggesting it would be the death of him. Also when has spiderman ever aimed for the balls in a fight? Can you show one example of him kicking some one in the balls?

Originally posted by Sam Z
3) Hit in the neck

How will he do this? As I have already explained it will not work. Hitting wolverine in the neck will not put him down when a sword through the neck does not. Also spiderman ahs yet to ever hit a person in the next, so what makes you think that would even be a game play for him? Also in order to hit wolverine in the neck he would have to leave him self terribly open in which case he would get stabbed and possibly die.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and it will be easy because of the same reason

How the hell would it be easy? Wolverine’s a train and master of the mertial arts he would not just leave his next open. Also again wolverine nearly as fast as spiderman so no it would not be easy in any way. Also as I have proven about 3 times already it would not work.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and I don't care if you concider it PIS or not

It not that I concider it PIS, it is the fact that I have proven that it is in fact PIS.

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Originally posted by Sam Z
books speak for themselvs.

Go read the forum rules honestly. Also the “books” have wolverine healing from a skeleton on three occasions does that make it usable evidence hell no it PIS.

Originally posted by Sam Z
4) Web him to the groung

How would spiderman pull this off? Wolverine can easily dodge or cut the webbing as I have already proven.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and rip off his skeleton from his body.

How would spiderman do this when others such as hulk and ba’al who are far stronger have failed?

Originally posted by Sam Z
What video games you've been playing?

NONE at all I have better thing to do such as getting drunk

Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry but in the REAL fights strength, speed and reflexes

Ya like you would know lol. Actauly the most important thing in a fight is fighting skills, durability and reflex in that order.

Originally posted by Sam Z
skilled but much slower and weaker than you he'd still lose.

Wolverine is not much slower then spiderman, he is nearly as fast actually. Yes wolverine is weaker, but his durability easily makes up for it not to mention his far superior fighting skills.

Originally posted by Sam Z
😂 What kind of martial art master is it if he is slower and weaker than you?

Old ones. A 60 year old who was a master of multiable fighting styles even if he was slower and weaker then me, would still kick my ass due to the fact he knows were to aim and how to hit and deflexed attacks.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Skills are important but not when your opponent sees every your move in slowmo

The fact of the matter is spiderman does not see wolverine moves in slow motion as proven in there fights and in there feats. Wolverine is almost spiderman equal in speed and your BIAS opinion does not change that facts. Please prove spiderman is far faster I love to see this.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and gets worning of an attack before you started performing it.

Ya except the fact wolverine sense have been proven to work in a similar way, were he knows his opponents attack before they make them as well.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Slight? Yeah right.

Yes I said slight. You can disagree all you want, but feats after feat, don’t lie.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Wolverine has disadvantages in all physical aspects except durabilty

Not at all really. Spiderman is strong with out a doubt, how ever his agility and reflex are at best slightly better then that of Logan and that’s even debatable since there feats are comparable. Wolverine not only has a huge durability advantage, but he also has a huge healing advantage not to mention wolverine stamina also out classes spidermans.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and his "comparable" feats are not bigger deal than feats of almost anty book character including DD or Batman etc but it doesn't puts hin in the same level as Spider-man.

Wait did you just say that though there feats are comparable to spiderman, that does not make them at spiderman level? That makes no sense what so ever. If wolverine and others feats are comparable to that of spidermans then it stands to reason that they are close to if not on par with that of spiderman. You just saying that spiderman is a higher level means nothing with out evidence to support such a claim.

Originally posted by Sam Z
His advantage here is clear and simple.

Really? Enlighten me on what those advantages are a can?

Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry but sense that tells you when attack is coming and what attack it would be and where it comes from is way more handy than enhanse hearing or smell.

Spiderman spider senses only tell you an attack is coming and were it may come from, but it does not tell you the type of attack it will be. Also as I have already stated wolverine sense can tell wolverine that an attack is coming and were it will come from as well. The vibration in the air tell him were the attack will be aim for and the smell and tensing of a person muscles tell him the attack is coming.

capt it up Senior Member

Originally posted by Sam Z
Wolverine's reflexes are not even close to Spider-man's, neither his speed so Spider-man advantage is to big and obvious.

If spidermans advantage is so “obvious” why have you yet been able to even prove spiderman is faster? Spiderman edge in both those areas is extremely small as shown through comic evidence that wolverine has easily comparable feats in both those areas. So please prove this and stop just talking out of your a$$.

Originally posted by Sam Z
But was beaten and outclassed by guys like Deadpool.

Out classed? The only time Deadpool ever wins is through plot devices as wolverine having no working healing factor and still wolverine out fights him.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Even though WOlverine has a lot of skills and great speed, for some reason Deadpool always cuts him first.

As I have already proven Deadpool does not normally cut him first as seen below in the scan
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine088page04059kskt9.jpg

Originally posted by Sam Z
Such as DD and Punisher

Sweet two PIS event which I have already proven above to be PIS. Also wolverine was not KOed by either.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and Deadpool.

Sweet using a Plot device KO as a win. Deadpool beat a none healing factor wolverine whoopy. If you think that helps your case your sadly mistaken.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I'll say it again. Like it or not Wolverine can be beaten even by guys that are weaker than Spider-man.

Such as? All you have mention was Two PIS event which I have proven to be PIS and invalid info. Your other evidence was a win deadpool got from wolverine not having a healing factor, sweet evidence there chief.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Spider-man is much faster than Wolverine.

Except he not and has yet been proven to be faster, let a lone much faster.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I would like to see WOlvie doing this.]
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6834323

I have seen wolverine do things easily as impressive as seen below in the scans
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106817dg1.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinev106818mz0.jpg

Originally posted by Sam Z
Or doging thirty laser shots at the same time without much trouble.

First off thirty laser shots? I count 7 in the first panel and 4in the second panel and then 3 in the third panel. At no point in time were there 30 laser shot at spiderman at the very same time, at the most there were 7 being shot. The text said 30 guys that does not how ever mean that there were 30 laser being fired at the same time becuase then you would see 30 laser on panels which you how ever do not.

Originally posted by Sam Z
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6634101

That quite impressive how ever not nearly as impressive as wolverine fighting over a hundred warriors who are using laser guns with out taking a single hit as seen and said in (marvel team-up Spiderman and wolverine #117).

Originally posted by Sam Z
Or dodging bullet that is feet away from him
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6506479

That is quite a feat you have there, how ever it is no more impressive then wolverine dodging guns fired by cable at point blank range in (x-men x-cutioner’s song chapter 6)

Originally posted by Sam Z
Spider-man has much better reflexes

But see that fact of the matter is spiderman does not and for every feat spiderman ahs wolverine has one equally as good.

Originally posted by Sam Z
and scan above prove it too,

No they did not actually. I easiliy found a feat of wolverines to match every spidermam feat you just posted. So like I said earlier spiderman edge is so slam it would matter not at all in this battle. I also would like to mention for every spiderman feat I have a wolverine feat to match it as seen above.
Originally posted by Sam Z
besides I'd like to see Wolverine catching bullet with bare hand.

Why would he do this when he could simply cut it like it done many times.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Oh btw cutting dart in the middle air and catching bullets are not simillar feats.

No cutting a rocket powered from two feet away is far harder. Rocket powered dart>>>>>>>>bullet.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Spider-man is much stronger.

Your point? Wolverine far more durable.]

Originally posted by Sam Z
He lifted train car.

Wolverines taken many many hits from sas and the hulk and been quite fine.

Originally posted by Sam Z
And if you want to believe that Wolverine is as fast as Spider-man ONLY because Spider-man himself said so,

When did I ever say this? I have never said to you that the reason I think wolverine is as fast as Spiderman is because Spiderman said so. I think Wolverine is enarly as fast as spiderman because he has proven it and because spiderman has no feat wolverine can not match with a feat of his own.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Sorry but all his advantages combined would be enough to perform class 15 hit for example in the throat that would end this fight.

As I have al ready proven that would not work and would result in Spiderman being stabbed.