Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

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Soleran Fast As Time
Originally posted by Creshosk
And now once again he defends his invalid point and failed to counter mine.

I'm sorry are you on stage with an audience? Do you prefer to speak in thrid person as well?

And I have an ability to predict the future based on repeat occurances of the past.

Yeah in science and in the real world yes, in comics not so much. Hence PIS (which you cry about) since we have seen Wolverine drop from one bullet or that he can be burned to a crisp and come back to life. Or Hulk being cut by Wolverine then Hulk survives a ground zero nuke with no damage? What again are you predicting?

*yawns*

Nap time!

Storywise Wolverine has gotten out of the webbing multiple times. You're nitpicking over the way the artist drew what the writers had written.

Yes he has but not by just ripping the webbing with his strength.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Soleran
I'm sorry are you on stage with an audience? Do you prefer to speak in thrid person as well?
Just pointing out to whoever wants to read this mess.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah in science and in the real world yes, in comics not so much. Hence PIS (which you cry about) since we have seen Wolverine drop from one bullet or that he can be burned to a crisp and come back to life. Or Hulk being cut by Wolverine then Hulk survives a ground zero nuke with no damage? What again are you predicting?
Seems to be pent up on how artists draw things this one is...

If I stick me thumb up his butthole I can get him really pissed...

Er sorry...

Originally posted by Soleran
Yes he has but not by just ripping the [b]webbing with his strength. [/B]
Which was the artist's depiction of the events.. and could have been depicted differently... which I already said, but you'll try to defend it basically ignoreing me as if I havd not just pointed out it could have been drawn differently to depicte the same events...

But at least you accept that partial possability.So you're not quite as bad as people who think that wolverine could never get out of the webbing himself.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
If Spidey stayed there then it wuld be easier for Wolverine to find him wen he got out.
Spidey could have webbed his mouth & nose so Wolvie couldn't breathe and just held Wolvie's arms still so he couldn't use the claws. Then Wolvie would've found nothing but death. & for that collage, the tackle happened only because Spidey let him. Alternate Universes don't count, and neither does Wolvie f**king up during a training session.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey could have webbed his mouth & nose so Wolvie couldn't breathe and just held Wolvie's arms still so he couldn't use the claws. Then Wolvie would've found nothing but death.
You know I think that's the missing equation.

brainchild81 Privateer

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Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
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organ ripping and getting close enough to web has face first is what I was handed before.

Webbing him up and then going for the face and holding him so that he couldn't free himself... that's a new combo I hadn't see.

The only problem I see is just how quick he has to preform these operations there is a chance that wolvie might like .09% get free before the steps are completed enough...

brainchild81 Privateer

That's not enough though. Spidey can just apply more webbing in a snap and continue. How've you been Cresh?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's not enough though. Spidey can just apply more webbing in a snap and continue. How've you been Cresh?
I've been okay.

like .09% is really enough to worry about. that tactic will pretty much do the trick though.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
If Spidey stayed there then it wuld be easier for Wolverine to find him wen he got out.

I think you're missing the point here. If Spidey had stayed after he webbed Wolvie up like that (which was apparently quite easy to do), he would've layed Wolvie out. Wolvie wouldn't have had anywhere near enough time to get out while Spidey is doing all sorts of damaging things to him.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I think you're missing the point here. If Spidey had stayed after he webbed Wolvie up like that (which was apparently quite easy to do), he would've layed Wolvie out. Wolvie wouldn't have had anywhere near enough time to get out while Spidey is doing all sorts of damaging things to him.

... If he even hit Wolverine once while he was webbed like that he would have dislodged Wolverine from the webbing or ripped the bricks the webbing was attached too out of the walls. Either way he would have freed up Logan.

Soleran Fast As Time

Who says Spiderman would have needed to hit Wolverine, at that point all he had to do was web his mouth and nose shut. He's webbed Lizard dead in the mouth on the fly while being attacked from numerous attackers.

It's certainly a possbility, Spiderman realy can win the majority if he keeps his distance otherwise he's toast.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... If he even hit Wolverine once while he was webbed like that he would have dislodged Wolverine from the webbing or ripped the bricks the webbing was attached too out of the walls. Either way he would have freed up Logan.

Not necessariyl. Depensd on how and where he hits him. Hell, he can also web both his mouth and nose shut. See what I mean?

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Originally posted by Soleran
Who says Spiderman would have needed to hit Wolverine, at that point all he had to do was web his mouth and nose shut. He's webbed Lizard dead in the mouth on the fly while being attacked from numerous attackers.

It's certainly a possbility, Spiderman realy can win the majority if he keeps his distance otherwise he's toast.

Lizards mouth is a pretty large target...

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Mouth to head size ratio, if anything it should be easier to cover Wolverine's mouth sufficiently to seal it than Lizards.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Not necessariyl. Depensd on how and where he hits him. Hell, he can also web both his mouth and nose shut. See what I mean?

If he is hitting him with enough force to do any damage to Wolverine it wont matter where he hits him, he will still get dislodged from the webbing. Even if he didn't get freed from the webbing he could sit there and take Spider-man's best attacks for hours if not days and still be conscious.

Metalmanx Illuminati Founder
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If he is hitting him with enough force to do any damage to Wolverine it wont matter where he hits him, he will still get dislodged from the webbing. Even if he didn't get freed from the webbing he could sit there and take Spider-man's best attacks for hours if not days and still be conscious.

Wait a second, why would this dislodge him? His webbing has withstood far greater force than Spider-Man has even dished out. Spidey could punch Wolverine all he wants and as hard as he wants and it wouldn't dislodge Wolvie in the slightest.

Hell, Spidey could puncture Wolvie's chest with his hand and remove his heart, lungs, pretty much everything needed for surival. And then, he could just keep a hand in there and keep the gaping hole open in his body, so it can't heal, also preventing the organs from regenerating.

Spidey has too many options at his disposal. Spider-Man 7/10.

riceroost Senior Member

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wait a second, why would this dislodge him? His webbing has withstood far greater force than Spider-Man has even dished out. Spidey could punch Wolverine all he wants and as hard as he wants and it wouldn't dislodge Wolvie in the slightest.
That is very debatable. The webbing strength is in flux about as much as Wolverine's healing factor is. And that's a lot.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hell, Spidey could puncture Wolvie's chest with his hand and remove his heart, lungs, pretty much everything needed for surival. And then, he could just keep a hand in there and keep the gaping hole open in his body, so it can't heal, also preventing the organs from regenerating.
It wouldn't kill Wolverine anyway, and if Spider-Man did do that to Wolverine he wouldn't want to stay close to him. If the webbing doesn't break (which it could) whatever the webbing is attached to will break. Is Spider-Man webs Wolverine to a wall and tries to impale him with his fist (which just sounds very wierd) Wolverine will go berserk and pull hard enough to break whatever he's attached to. If it's a fire escape then it's broken, if it's a brick wall it will crumble, if it's steel, hey Wolverine has shattered things stronger than steel on pure strength while not berserk and horribly weakened. Spider-Man better find some omnium steel to web Wolverine to.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey has too many options at his disposal. Spider-Man 7/10.
And all those options still can't do Wolverine any harm.
And Wolverine's 1 option still beats all those options, which is claw thrust for the win. Every Spider-fan's argument boils down to them thinking Wolverine is incapable of hitting Spider-Man, which is just stupid because he's already done it multiple times and people far slower than Wolverine have done it too. And once you realize that Wolverine can hit Spider-Man you have to realize that a hit from Wolverine means death for Spider-Man a good 9 times out of 10. If Wolverine can hit Spider-Man he can kill him or incapacitate him instantly, and since he can do that it's Wolverine 7/10.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by riceroost
And all those options still can't do Wolverine any harm. Is Spider-Man webs Wolverine to a wall and tries to impale him with his fist (which just sounds very wierd) Wolverine will go berserk and pull hard enough to break whatever he's attached to. If it's a fire escape then it's broken, if it's a brick wall it will crumble, if it's steel, hey Wolverine has shattered things stronger than steel on pure strength while not berserk and horribly weakened. Spider-Man better find some omnium steel to web Wolverine to.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey could have webbed his mouth & nose so Wolvie couldn't breathe and just held Wolvie's arms still so he couldn't use the claws. Then Wolvie would've found nothing but death.
Last time I checked Wolvie need to breathe. & that stuff about Wolvie pulling down bricks or steel is silly. It's easy to shatter stuff with a punch or kick when you got a metal skeleton. Now try destroying steel and bricks by pulling them when you can't even get any momentum or leverage because you're tied up w/webbing

Tha C-Master Zitz! Rash! Pimple!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If he is hitting him with enough force to do any damage to Wolverine it wont matter where he hits him, he will still get dislodged from the webbing. Even if he didn't get freed from the webbing he could sit there and take Spider-man's best attacks for hours if not days and still be conscious.
That's a debatable topic on it's own, and is a main reason this thread is so long, but I guess it is the heart of the thread, "Just how much can Wolverine take?"

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Spider-man ftw.