Meh... way I see it, Carnage is way more of a threat to Spider-Man than Wolverine would ever be.... he's just as durable as Wolverine (if not more so), faster, stronger, has a longer reach, can become invisible (though he rarely makes use of the fact) and he is invisible to Pete's spider sense.... yet Spidey is always fast enough to not get gutted/skewered by the symbiote
Originally posted by SoljerThose are pretty close. I'd give the slight edge to Wolverine's healing factor since the number of insane thigns he does is going up, if you don't just write the character off off the bat and actually suspend some disbeleif withing the confines of the rules of KMC...
Well, if you want to think of it that way;Spiderman cannot be hit by Wolverine till he tires and slows down.
Wolverine can't be knocked out by Spiderman till Spiderman overloads his healing factor.
The determining factor would simply be; which happens first?
Wolverine has the slight edge here. Spiderman can do a lot of damage. But Wolverine can take all that and then some...
As far as those arguments/strategies go though...
Originally posted by ScooblessUsually finding or making the weakness after a breather or the weakness of the character just happens to be there...
Meh... way I see it, Carnage is way more of a threat to Spider-Man than Wolverine would ever be.... he's just as durable as Wolverine (if not more so), faster, stronger, has a longer reach, can become invisible (though he rarely makes use of the fact) and he is invisible to Pete's spider sense.... yet Spidey is always fast enough to not get gutted/skewered by the symbiote
But Yeah, Carnage poses such a threat that that stalemate isn't as close. Usually spiderman needs something extra to beat Carnage rather than something he always carries with him in other fights with other characters.
Originally posted by badabinglol.. well I pretty much agree with what creshie said...
I've always wondered how Wolverine can hit Spider-Man. Peter is faster with quicker reflexes and he has pre-cog in the form of Spider Sense. bnone*I haven't pestered Jinzin in a while.*evil_lemon
see soljer the thing in my mind is... there are plenty of examples of wolverine or slower people getting hits in on spidey...
there are NONE of spidey knocking wolverine out.. and that's even when he's giving it all he has.
the times that wolverine gets KOed by weaker opponents than spidey, they tend to be a lot more skilled than spidey in h2h, or the feat is either shrouded in circumstances.
Originally posted by SoljerWhich is what I'm trying to get at... Spiderman still has other strategies at hand though, but all of the arguments at this point are recycled anyways.
*nods*Opponents slower than Wolverine have hit Spiderman, and likewise, opponents weaker than Spiderman have knocked Wolverine out.
Sticking to the argument of "SPIDERMAN CAN'T BE HIT!" or "WOLVERINE CAN'T BE KNOCKED OUT!" definitely isn't going to win you the argument here.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterBut you see it's not really that valid a point in the first place.
Which is what I'm trying to get at... Spiderman still has other strategies at hand though, but all of the arguments at this point are recycled anyways.
All you're trying to do in force an invalid acceptance of Spiderman knocking Wolverine out.
Originally posted by Creshosk
But you see it's not really that valid a point in the first place.
To whom? My point is that the "Wolverine can't be knocked out" and the "Spiderman can't be touched" will never reach a valid conclusion, people will always use different showings and accept only those showings.
Originally posted by CreshoskI just said he had other options apart from dodging. Had nothing to do with knocking anyone out at all.
All you're trying to do in force an invalid acceptance of Spiderman knocking Wolverine out.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThese two sentences contradict one another.
To whom? My point is that the "Wolverine can't be knocked out" and the "Spiderman can't be touched" will never reach a valid conclusion, people will always use different showings and accept only those showings.I just said he had other options apart from dodging. Had nothing to do with knocking anyone out at all.
Could you rephrase without contradicting statements?
Originally posted by CreshoskBut from your own point of view you say they are conflicting, so I'm asking you to explain where the rhetoric of my post conflicted, I'm not saying I'm wrong, I'm asking you to do something for me because I don't see it.
If I was able to read your mind I would not have needed to request clarification on conflicting statements.I reinque as to your meaning of your previous post with the conflicting statements.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But from your own point of view you say they are conflicting, so I'm asking you to explain where the rhetoric of my post conflicted, I'm not saying I'm wrong, I'm asking you to do something for me because I don't see it.
"To whom? My point is that the "Wolverine can't be knocked out" and the "Spider-man can't be touched" will never reach a valid conclusion, people will always use different showings and accept only those showings.
I just said he had other options apart from dodging. Had nothing to do with knocking anyone out at all. "
in the first sentence you insist that "Wolverine cannot be knocked out" is an invalid statement. This infers that you believe that the opposite holds true since the value in which something can happen is a rather boolean concept. So this infers that you believe that Wolverine can be knocked out.
In contrast you insist that you were not referring to anything that your previous statement clearly infers.
Since the information presented in these two statements is not equal to one another I request that more information be added to clarify which stance you hold as to whether or not the value of Spider-man's ability to knock Wolverine out is either true or false.
Here we go.
Originally posted by Creshosk
in the first sentence you insist that "Wolverine cannot be knocked out" is an invalid statement. This infers that you believe that the opposite holds true since the value in which something can happen is a rather boolean concept. So this infers that you believe that Wolverine can be knocked out.
Originally posted by CreshoskI was emphasizing that Spiderman had other options to dodge, this post was not contingent upon the previous, and it wasn't meant to be either.
In contrast you insist that you were not referring to anything that your previous statement clearly infers.
Originally posted by CreshoskRead above.
Since the information presented in these two statements is not equal to one another I request that more information be added to clarify which stance you hold as to whether or not the value of Spider-man's ability to knock Wolverine out is either true or false.
Originally posted by leonidasMy conclusions on the matter have been stated previously.
cresh, do YOU believe spidey is CAPABLE of knocking out wolverine?
Originally posted by Grimm22
Spidey beat Sabertooth 😐Sabertooth beats Wolverine
N'uff Said ✅
A>B and B>C so A>C is valid only in such that A, B and C can be quantified tointergers.
As A B and C are not quantifiable to intergers and have differentiated values among A.1, A.2 ...~, B.1, B.2 ...~ and C.1, c.2 ...~
Your conclusion is inanely invalid.