Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Tha C-Master1,019 pages

Originally posted by riceroost
That is very debatable. The webbing strength is in flux about as much as Wolverine's healing factor is. And that's a lot.
It wouldn't kill Wolverine anyway, and if Spider-Man did do that to Wolverine he wouldn't want to stay close to him. If the webbing doesn't break (which it could) whatever the webbing is attached to will break. Is Spider-Man webs Wolverine to a wall and tries to impale him with his fist (which just sounds very wierd) Wolverine will go berserk and pull hard enough to break whatever he's attached to. If it's a fire escape then it's broken, if it's a brick wall it will crumble, if it's steel, hey Wolverine has shattered things stronger than steel on pure strength while not berserk and horribly weakened. Spider-Man better find some omnium steel to web Wolverine to.
And all those options still can't do Wolverine any harm.
And Wolverine's 1 option still beats all those options, which is claw thrust for the win. Every Spider-fan's argument boils down to them thinking Wolverine is incapable of hitting Spider-Man, which is just stupid because he's already done it multiple times and people far slower than Wolverine have done it too. And once you realize that Wolverine can hit Spider-Man you have to realize that a hit from Wolverine means death for Spider-Man a good 9 times out of 10. If Wolverine can hit Spider-Man he can kill him or incapacitate him instantly, and since he can do that it's Wolverine 7/10.
Every Wolverine fan's argument boils down to Wolverine's opponent fighting in close and that Wolverine will ALWAYS hit, and that the hit will be fatal. And that noone short of Hulk can injure him, when far weaker people have done it.

dosent current Spiderman has the iron suit.
Spidey easily

This thread started 3 years ago. 😱

Originally posted by brainchild81
Last time I checked Wolvie need to breathe. & that stuff about Wolvie pulling down bricks or steel is silly. It's easy to shatter stuff with a punch or kick when you got a metal skeleton. Now try destroying steel and bricks by pulling them when you can't even get any momentum or leverage because you're tied up w/webbing
Wolverine has ripped apart a brick wall when Spider-Man tried to web him to it. Happened in Punisher. He didn't kick it, he just pulled his arm forward as hard as he could and 2 large sections of brick ripped off the wall.

And Wolverine has broken steel arm and leg restraints without punching or kicking them. He just pulled and thrashed around hard enough to shatter them. Happened once in X-Men # 7 and that was when he was VERY weak. Wolverine also broke out of "unbreakable" metal shackles when the X-Men were put in a carnival by Mesmero. He didn't punch or kick to get out then either, he just pulled on the chains, so no I'm still right.

Yeah ok,Wolverine is class 100 and can break unbrweakable metal. End of story....

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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Haha, I thought it was obvious I was joking.

However, as much as others disagree, I do pretty much agree with the portrayal of Spidey vs. Wolverine in Secret Wars. He swatted him away. That's what should happen everytime. Wolvie isn't super-strong, super-fast, etc., etc. He weighs 300 lbs and should be swatted away as such the way Spidey did. I just don't understand why that doesn't make sense. But, whatever.

Spidey wins 7/10.

it does make sense.. it just isn't a win... no more so than wolverine slamming spidey's head into a tree that's all.. 😬

Originally posted by Soleran
More importantly though if Spiderman webbed Wolverine and left him then in forum rules Spiderman would have finished Wolverine off, not run off and away.

Either way Spiderman can web him up and then its over for Logan🙁

and wolvie can stab spiderman then it's fight over for spidey.. just because something CAN happen doesn't mean it's likely to... 😕

I still say tie 😕

Originally posted by Creshosk
He said funny, and it was...

It's not valid mind you, but it is funny.

Oh spidey has webbed him plenty of times. What you have to worry about is being sneaky and not showing him getting himself out afterwards.

you gotta remember.. from back in the venom/wolvie misconceptions thread.. venom tried to web logan up too didn't work... he tired to engulf him in symbiote TOO! didn't WORK!

Originally posted by Soleran
Uh huh, yeah you have a very unique power there to foresee the future! Let me assist you further, in one scenario Wolverine doesn't have the strength to [b]budge in Spiderman's webbing and the next time he just tears it with his muscles like it's nothing.

Thats not a little discrepency with artistic license thats a whole other ball game.

Spiderman's webbing has significantly greater strength then what Wolverine typically displays, hence the PIS. It still stands even if you don't like it. [/B]

in the first instance he's covered in webbing from head to toe.. in the second spiderman had just started to shoot webbing and he was held to the wall by nothing but several strands.. that probably hadn't set yet anyways.

Jinzin you have got to be one of the best posters on this forum.....

But I still say tie

thank you...

yeah a tie's probably the best compromise anyone could EVER hope for as a compromise.

As a side note.. I think it's interesting how there's a guy like captain america who has outfought spiderman on 3 seperate occasions in h2h. And then there's wolverine who is on the same skill level and has put cap on the bad side of several ass whompin's in h2h.
and then there's spiderman who's been hit by both parties multiple times.. but wolverine still can't hit spidey. 😬

Funny how people weaker than Spiderman (and things) have seriously hurt Wolverine, but Spiderman can't? Even if I'm twice as fast as someone I should be able to evade them, that's common sense. Does anyone here actually believe that they will make a comic with Spiderman unhit?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Funny how people weaker than Spiderman (and things) have seriously hurt Wolverine, but Spiderman can't? Even if I'm twice as fast as someone I should be able to evade them, that's common sense. Does anyone here actually believe that they will make a comic with Spiderman unhit?
no cause he's not untouchable... if he keeps trying and keeps failing well....

the thing about wolverine is there are very few if any AT ALL comparible examples of people KOing wolvie or seriously damaging him using the same types of tools spidey has, and the incident remaining free of plot devices, wolverine already weakened, etc etc...

there ARE however examples of spiderman punching away at wolverine, pounding on him, and throwing him out of unbreakable windows atop skyscrapers and wolverine getting up completely uneffected....

there ARE examples of wolverine hitting spiderman.
there are none of spidey hurting wolvie to any considerable level.

I've always wondered how Wolverine can hit Spider-Man. Peter is faster with quicker reflexes and he has pre-cog in the form of Spider Sense. bnone

*I haven't pestered Jinzin in a while.*evil_lemon

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Funny how people weaker than Spiderman (and things) have seriously hurt Wolverine, but Spiderman can't? Even if I'm twice as fast as someone I should be able to evade them, that's common sense. Does anyone here actually believe that they will make a comic with Spiderman unhit?
The opposite can be said if you're to use this "weaker showing of the opponent" argument.

Slower characters and weaker characters have struck Spiderman.

See?

*nods*

Opponents slower than Wolverine have hit Spiderman, and likewise, opponents weaker than Spiderman have knocked Wolverine out.

Sticking to the argument of "SPIDERMAN CAN'T BE HIT!" or "WOLVERINE CAN'T BE KNOCKED OUT!" definitely isn't going to win you the argument here.

This is one of those matches where most people come in already thinking they know who would win and being completely unchangeable in their opinions... some of them even realise this but they'll still consistently respond to the same people with the same arguments over and over and over again....... 😐

That said.... Spider-Man wins!

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Originally posted by Soljer
*nods*

Opponents slower than Wolverine have hit Spiderman, and likewise, opponents weaker than Spiderman have knocked Wolverine out.

Sticking to the argument of "SPIDERMAN CAN'T BE HIT!" or "WOLVERINE CAN'T BE KNOCKED OUT!" definitely isn't going to win you the argument here.

I hold both to be true. Wolverine can't be knocked out by spiderman, and Wolverine cannot innitially hit Spiderman unless Spiderman underestimates him (ie thinking it's some one other than Wolverine or gets careless) or until Spiderman tires and weakens the speed gap.

*shrugs* That's what I think of those specific arguments.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I hold both to be true. Wolverine can't be knocked out by spiderman, and Wolverine cannot innitially hit Spiderman unless Spiderman underestimates him (ie thinking it's some one other than Wolverine or gets careless) or until Spiderman tires and weakens the speed gap.

*shrugs* That's what I think of those specific arguments.

Well, if you want to think of it that way;

Spiderman cannot be hit by Wolverine till he tires and slows down.

Wolverine can't be knocked out by Spiderman till Spiderman overloads his healing factor.

The determining factor would simply be; which happens first?