I've virtually given up on this thread ages ago. Aside from the comment now and then, the same people are defending Wolverine with the same points. There are some new Spiderman defenders but that's about it. It's all been heard since I joined on page 60. 😬 Nothing worth posting seriously about anymore. No new proof, just alot of assumptions all around. And overall bickering.
Originally posted by jinzinthe fight with captian america lets start ther you do realize he hwas at a mental disadvantaged and that dideffect his allaround preformace and almost evey time spiderman and dare devil has fought spider-man was either mind controlled or without his spider-sense white ninja so on so forth yes they score some blows because they were better trained than spider-man he's pretty much self taught in the ways of combat and i would go so far as to bost that wolverine is better than cap the 2 are close and comparable that's allmost of the times that spider-man and wolverine have fought the were still restraining themselves they already know neither one of them was really a bad guy so why in the hell would they try to land killing blows wolverine might have landed a blow or 2 inthe past but he was never out to kill spider-man if he was it would have been a diffrent story
don't know why.. in fights with punisher, captain america, daredevil, the white ninja, etc etc etc.. it's the peak human h2h specialists that land the first blow.. and the more consistent blows... in reference to captain america... "he's already hit me three times, I haven't hit him once".... funny.. wolverine's beaten captain america once already and the only good showing cap has against wolvie was loaded with circumstances and even THEN cap got railed.... 😬besides.. wolverine's already landed that easy hit... on 3 or 4 occasions now.. ...
more or less true.... he'll have more of an option to take flight to a wall.. but the fact is that wolverine has the tools to bring a wall down... [/QUOTE] tell me what the hell could wolverine do to bring down a brick wall? he's not strong enough to smash it down clawing at it all day wont accmplish much even if he claws a hole in it his only option is to try to clim up the wall which would be a bad move for him
taskmaster did... black panther did. white ninja did...
in terms of dodging the stuff... balck cat's done it, cap's done it, tm again.. white ninja again.... spidey's only prayer is taking to a wall that won't come crashing down if wolverine tears it up... other than that, there's too great a chance for wolverine to close the gap and reporduce what happened in mk spidey 12.
using webbing leaves spidey momentarily open to attack as well...[/QUOTE] again the amount and thickness of the webbing makes alll the diffrence if he uses enough webbing to hold a multi ton truck in place against any one of those people or even a full cartrage they are going to get stuck it's not like a net that just covers an opponent the strands are extremely sticky as well even if the cut away at some strands they will eventually start sticking tho the blade and then to the user as well untill the get tangled you cant cut your wa free if your blade is also stuck in webbing especialy seeing how each one of thoes strands has tensile strenght greater than steel and once again that mk issue with wolverine was a training session it was an accident on both ends nothing more and using webing has yet to leave spiderman defenceless save for a few instances where his opponent was strong enough and fast enough to grab the webbing as he was shooting it and yank him towards them
I'm not debating whether he can use them well or not.. they just won't be very effective against wolverine... his speed.. is a SLIGHT factor, and it's subject to time and fatigue... his strength is nearly a non factor altogether though...[/QUOTE] how is speed a slight factor? wolverine is not as fast or faster than spider-man he's fast enough to keep up that's about it, also how is strenght a non factor? the almighty healing factor? spiderman still posses enough streght to ko him or atleast knock the wind out of him
so can wolverine.. that' doesn't help spidey unless he can do it to a point that leaves wolverine defensless... spiderman's not faster than speed demon so it ain't happening.. period...[/QUOTE]
speed demon also just runs along the ground spiderman hardly comes at you one way
against weakened, distracted or stupid opponents.. he hasn't done this to good fighters though... why?
"I can't let up for a moment, he'll kill me."
again.. there's too much risk of reproducing mk knights 12 with that strategy... [/QUOTE] he's done it against plenty of fresh intelegent opponets as well doc ock for example almost all their early fights spidy used the web to the face tactic on many ocassions ock knew about it but he still couldnt prevent it from happening even with his arms that dont tire there wont be any mk 12 reproduction any time soon
impact webbing is a scarlet spider gimmick hence moot....[/QUOTE] spider-man has also used impact webbing
umm well he can punch kick or headbutt spiderman into submission....
wolverine's hurt hulk with a head but
knoked him over with a jump kick
put warpath on the recieving end of a h2h ass kicking.
knocked out the 70 ton boasting roughouse
hell he's even knocked spiderman away with a back fist, kicked the wind out of him, and knocked him out via groin shot.. 😬[/QUOTE]
i doubt very much he would be able to hurt spiderman with his puches or kick with out the adamantium he's barely strong enough for spider-man to notice his blows the dont really hurt him that much with the addy it may sting a little but hardly enough to beat him into submission as you so put it the whole warpath hulk roughouse examples your useing with the execption of maybe warpath seem to be more on the lines of pis wolverine doent have the strenght to hurt hulk so how is it that he can head butt him and hurt him? sure the adamantium could do it but wolverine cant generate the amount of force needed to be effective the same goes for roughhouse oh and as far as the kick to the groing goes 1) that was a cheap shot even amoungts superpowerd beings he might as well have bit his leg while he was at it and 2) it's a god doamn groin shot ofcourse it hurt i can take more than my fair share of punishment but i can tell you i would drop from a full swing groin shot same as any guy would
limited to an extent.. but being limited makes them no less effective options... especially when they keep showing that they work on spidey... [/QUOTE]
not saying anything about effective ness but that still doesnt change the fact that he is limited on his angles of approceh which is his biggest drawback in any fight and ofcourse they show him being effective on spidy he's marvel's number 2 character they arent going to show him getting curbstomped by spidy because fans would have a bad reaction the same could be said about when batman kicks the crap outta superman it's more about popularity than anything else in that regard
Originally posted by jinzinNah chief. You’re bulls**tting us all now & you know it🙂 Spidey never really ran out of options. He fought stupid that whole fight. Like a f**king moron. Unless of course you think punching a guy w/an unbreakable skull in the face & head repeatedly when it’s clearly not ending the fight is smart. I know you don’t ‘cause you’re smarter than that. Right?
he said he was fighting slow and stupid.. to a point.. the point he started focusing on his spidersense and giving wolverine everything he had... to no avail...that's when he ran out of options.. after... not during....
Originally posted by jinzinHell yeah he could have. “I try to convince him to stay down. He starts to get the message”. Right there web his lil’ ass up. Eyes first. Kick him in the nuts(woulda wiped the smile clean off his face cause there’s no adamantium there See?
he couldn't...
"can't let up for a second, he'll kill me"
Originally posted by King_Mungi). Spidey fast as a mofo. Takes him less than a second to shoot webs. Come on now.
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Originally posted by jinzinThat’s why I said use ‘em up close. Gives Wolvie less time to react. Won’t see it coming til it’s too late.
the one time he tried to use webbing wolverine cut it away after that the gap was closed and the fight was on...
Originally posted by jinzinSpidey tried to kill Cap?
kinda like how spidey admits that he has an affinity to fighting in close when captain america took it to him.
Originally posted by jinzinDidn’t he have to force his claws on himself? It took long enough
not once he popped the claws.
Originally posted by jinzinWolvie would end up in a much worse position if Spidey fights him to the best of his ability, unlike in the graveyard. Wolvie never would have gotten his claws in that position if Spidey didn’t LET him tackle him.
at the end of the day had that been a real fight wolverine wouldn't even be in that position.. in the same notion all wolverine would have had to do was pop his claws in the graveyard fight.. see we can dance this dance all day.
Originally posted by jinzinNah they really don’t. Sparring is sparring. I like headbutting people in a fight, I don’t do that when I’m sparring or slapboxing.
sparring session... sparring is fighting to a point..
same basics still apply.
Originally posted by jinzinWolvie’s a f**king surgeon w/those things. He’s not gonna stab Spidey by mistake. He wanted to run him through cause he was pissed @ him ‘bout MJ. @ the end of the day that still was bulls**t unless Spidey was flat out ignoring the Spidey sense or expecting Wolvie to act like they were sparring & stop short of impaling him. I think it was written by the same moron who took UNCUT off BET🙁.
it wasn't intended to be a real run through.. or a gore, or a ko blow... wolverine considered it a scratch.. he wasn't giving an all out shot.. typical for sparring sessions.
Originally posted by jinzinAgreed. Wolvie’ll K a B w/a smile on his face. Need to keep people like that around
if someone gets KOed in a sparring session you go to see if they're okay.. you don't chastize them on the spot.. 🤨in any case the avengers were all probably in a state of shock, you have to realize wolverine's on a different level then them entirely (mentally speaking) which is why tony wanted him on the team in the first place.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I've virtually given up on this thread ages ago. Aside from the comment now and then, the same people are defending Wolverine with the same points. There are some new Spiderman defenders but that's about it. It's all been heard since I joined on page 60. 😬 Nothing worth posting seriously about anymore. No new proof, just alot of assumptions all around. And overall bickering.
Right. But the Logan supporters have been more persistent. I had a fight a couple hundred pages back with jinzin, who still posts here, but I kinda gave up after we duked it out. Enjoyable, but not something I can repeat constantly.
I'm just happy that the poll is favored toward SM enough that's it's not likely Wolverine will ever overtake him.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Right. But the Logan supporters have been more persistent. I had a fight a couple hundred pages back with jinzin, who still posts here, but I kinda gave up after we duked it out. Enjoyable, but not something I can repeat constantly.I'm just happy that the poll is favored toward SM enough that's it's not likely Wolverine will ever overtake him.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Right. But the Logan supporters have been more persistent. I had a fight a couple hundred pages back with jinzin, who still posts here, but I kinda gave up after we duked it out. Enjoyable, but not something I can repeat constantly.I'm just happy that the poll is favored toward SM enough that's it's not likely Wolverine will ever overtake him.
Originally posted by lando005Both true, Jinzin makes good points in a thread that has been shot now. The thread has been changed since last year, it used to be Whokid, I, Zahit, Whob, Straw, against Cresh, Jin, Merc, and some others, Logan87, WOLVERINEFAN, Pointinel. But eveyone left and it was me vs them for almost 6 months until Metalmanx started to show up. After I did my own forum I started to post less and less. I found the best of the arguments were back before Christmas 05 or so. I used to post seriously more or less than then I do now. You'd have to go back several hundred pages though. 😮
i have to admit it's rather impressive that jinzin is takeing on all the spidy supporters by himself and holding his own
It wasn't just this thread, but Spiderman vs Trio, and Spiderman vs Batman, I was alone, so I know what it's like, you get overwhelmed with backpatters (and people trying to report you). So props for that.
Originally posted by Tha C-Masterthe very reason why i joined these forums was because i was because i wanted to have an intellegent convo with somebody i wanted a debate with somebody who had a lot of thought and insite i really didnt care what i was debateing about and since i couldnt find anyone to debate life topics i came here there seems to be some very good debaters here i've found myself stalemanted and beaten on a few occasions and i'm glad i came here i'm wating for jinzin to get back on here so we can go another round
Wolverine supporters are always persistent lol. Then again Spiderman fans are too or the Trio thread wouldn't be so long.Both true, Jinzin makes good points in a thread that has been shot now. The thread has been changed since last year, it used to be Whokid, I, Zahit, Whob, Straw, against Cresh, Jin, Merc, and some others, Logan87, WOLVERINEFAN, Pointinel. But eveyone left and it was me vs them for almost 6 months until Metalmanx started to show up. After I did my own forum I started to post less and less. I found the best of the arguments were back before Christmas 05 or so. I used to post seriously more or less than then I do now. You'd have to go back several hundred pages though. 😮
It wasn't just this thread, but Spiderman vs Trio, and Spiderman vs Batman, I was alone, so I know what it's like, you get overwhelmed with backpatters (and people trying to report you). So props for that.
Originally posted by lando005It's always good to have someone you can talk to even if you don't always agree with them. I myself don't focus as much in comics anymore, and have posted in other boards in forums that spark my interest, as well as post art. I find there are many topics more intellectually stimulating to me. However this place is still home to me. If I didn't come here I would have never done alot of things I'm doing now. There are some good "life topics" on this and other forums though. And boards.
the very reason why i joined these forums was because i was because i wanted to have an intellegent convo with somebody i wanted a debate with somebody who had a lot of thought and insite i really didnt care what i was debateing about and since i couldnt find anyone to debate life topics i came here there seems to be some very good debaters here i've found myself stalemanted and beaten on a few occasions and i'm glad i came here i'm wating for jinzin to get back on here so we can go another round
Originally posted by jinzinI disagree with this post on so many levels, it's not funny. Past that, the recent posts are too numerous to rummage through. I know jinzin says Wolverine wins, but how many times out of 10?
funny.. wolverine's beaten captain america once already and the only good showing cap has against wolvie was loaded with circumstances and even THEN cap got railed.... 😬
Personally, IMHO its a split 5/10 each way.
Can we agree that Wolverine and Sabretooth are very similar with equal attributes in most cases? Good!
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Here is what was really said.
Spiderman- Logan you ok?
Logan- Yeah Im just waiting for my healing factor to kick in. The guy packs a punch. I guess I am not as fast I thought.
Spiderman- You got that right.
Logan- Shut up! Smart ass.
Spiderman- Ok! I am going to draw his fire because your not fast enough, and while he is distracted do your stuff.
Spiderman- What would you do If I was not here.
Logan- Its a good thing you are because, i dont wanna know the answer to that.
Spiderman- Watch and learn Logan
Logan- Damn showoff
This was a post made by RicoDrayz and he is pissed
Spiderman is to freaking fast. He can not be touched! The man has spider sense and also has enough strength to KO anybody.
Spiderman could kill Wolverine and all his friends with one finger, so I don't see how Sabertooth can even keep up with Spiderman. Yes, I will ignore his upgrades because he is a Wolverine Villian. Anything or anybody to do with Wolverine loses to Spiderman you freaking Wolverine Fanboys, get it through your head.
Spiderman is not over rated and is the most hated character on the boards so everyone trie sto make him lose. Even IGN had a tourniment with alot of Marvel characters and Spiderman ended up beating Magneto but then the people at IGn got mad and said this!
"October 23, 2006 - We at IGN Comics are able to accept a lot of odd things. When we left Gambit off of our Top 25 X-Men list, we understood when many of you wanted to cut off our limbs. When we review dozens of comics each week, we figure some of you will be mad that we didn't get around to Krypto. We even (almost) understand how many of you are still under the impression that Onslaught was a great idea. Somehow, somewhere, we have developed an understanding of these opinions.
But there is no way Spider-Man wins our Ultimate Marvel tournament.
While we are sure there were other injustices in the voting, the fact that Peter Parker managed to defeat the Hulk, Silver Surfer, Thor and Magneto is just a bit much for us to handle. We thought we'd walk you through our choices for the tournament. We are willing to accept a fairly broad range of scenarios for these fights."
How dare these people take a win from Spiderman. Grr, people underestimate Spiderman Greaty. I hate Wolverine Fanboys Curse you Srank
*Goes back to sleep*
I had to post this courtesy of RicoDrayz at least he did some research for some facts.
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How much do alligators weigh 1500+ pounds.
If Spidey somehow managed to web up Logan well enough to through him like this, how far do you think he would travel? I'll go first, farther than the gator.
Originally posted by python99
This was a post made by RicoDrayz and he is pissedSpiderman is to freaking fast. He can not be touched! The man has spider sense and also has enough strength to KO anybody.
Spiderman could kill Wolverine and all his friends with one finger, so I don't see how Sabertooth can even keep up with Spiderman. Yes, I will ignore his upgrades because he is a Wolverine Villian. Anything or anybody to do with Wolverine loses to Spiderman you freaking Wolverine Fanboys, get it through your head.
Spiderman is not over rated and is the most hated character on the boards so everyone trie sto make him lose. Even IGN had a tourniment with alot of Marvel characters and Spiderman ended up beating Magneto but then the people at IGn got mad and said this!
"October 23, 2006 - We at IGN Comics are able to accept a lot of odd things. When we left Gambit off of our Top 25 X-Men list, we understood when many of you wanted to cut off our limbs. When we review dozens of comics each week, we figure some of you will be mad that we didn't get around to Krypto. We even (almost) understand how many of you are still under the impression that Onslaught was a great idea. Somehow, somewhere, we have developed an understanding of these opinions.
But there is no way Spider-Man wins our Ultimate Marvel tournament.
While we are sure there were other injustices in the voting, the fact that Peter Parker managed to defeat the Hulk, Silver Surfer, Thor and Magneto is just a bit much for us to handle. We thought we'd walk you through our choices for the tournament. We are willing to accept a fairly broad range of scenarios for these fights."How dare these people take a win from Spiderman. Grr, people underestimate Spiderman Greaty. I hate Wolverine Fanboys Curse you Srank
*Goes back to sleep*
I had to post this courtesy of RicoDrayz at least he did some research for some facts.
Well, him beating Thor, Silver Surfer, and Hulk is WAY overboard.
