Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by Metalmanx1,019 pages

Originally posted by capt it up
no what you pulled out was people beign mind controleld that's a huge difference.

fact is you have yet to put a feat down I can not match

so please keep going and send them to my PM as well so I can answer them later I ahve thing's to do at the moment such as hw

Nah, I want to keep it here. I've got homework, too, but I also want other people to be able to respond.

Daredevil being put in a full nelson so easily is not considered a low-feat? After all of the times he's shown much faster speed and reflexes than that? This is the same guy that bats bullets away with his billy clubs like it's a game.

Mind controlled or not, Cyke still took on a number of powerful X-Men at the same time. And that's just one example I can currently think of off the top of my mind. Lemme cruise the respect thread a bit to refresh the memory.

Oh, wait. Got one. Cyke also effortlessly defeats both Black Tom Cassidy and Juggernaut. All while Juggernaut charges at him. And yet, "little sissy boy" Scott kept his cool when being charged down by one of the most dangerous villians there were.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Nah, I want to keep it here. I've got homework, too, but I also want other people to be able to respond.

Daredevil being put in a full nelson so easily is not considered a low-feat? After all of the times he's shown much faster speed and reflexes than that? This is the same guy that bats bullets away with his billy clubs like it's a game.

Mind controlled or not, Cyke still took on a number of powerful X-Men at the same time. And that's just one example I can currently think of off the top of my mind. Lemme cruise the respect thread a bit to refresh the memory.

Oh, wait. Got one. Cyke also effortlessly defeats both Black Tom Cassidy and Juggernaut. All while Juggernaut charges at him. And yet, "little sissy boy" Scott kept his cool when being charged down by one of the most dangerous villians there were.

Daredevil not being able to keep up with Spiderman isn't a low-feat? Considering that he can bat away bullets with his billy club, and has dodged punch after punch from Spiderman in the past?

Unless Spiderman punches faster than a bullet, now, Daredevil should have very well been able to parry his punch with his billy club just as easily.

And if Spiderman DOES punch faster than a bullet, where are the sonic booms?

Originally posted by Soljer
Daredevil not being able to keep up with Spiderman isn't a low-feat? Considering that he can bat away bullets with his billy club, and has dodged punch after punch from Spiderman in the past?

Unless Spiderman punches faster than a bullet, now, Daredevil should have very well been able to parry his punch with his billy club just as easily.

And if Spiderman DOES punch faster than a bullet, where are the sonic booms?

The punches aren't what I was referring to. More his movement speed. To be able to close in on Daredevil that fast, he doesn't need to have bullet-speed punches to beat him.

The point is, by the time DD reacts to Spidey being in his proximity, he then can't react to the attacks that come afterwards.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Nah, I want to keep it here. I've got homework, too, but I also want other people to be able to respond.

Daredevil being put in a full nelson so easily is not considered a low-feat? After all of the times he's shown much faster speed and reflexes than that? This is the same guy that bats bullets away with his billy clubs like it's a game.

Mind controlled or not, Cyke still took on a number of powerful X-Men at the same time. And that's just one example I can currently think of off the top of my mind. Lemme cruise the respect thread a bit to refresh the memory.

Oh, wait. Got one. Cyke also effortlessly defeats both Black Tom Cassidy and Juggernaut. All while Juggernaut charges at him. And yet, "little sissy boy" Scott kept his cool when being charged down by one of the most dangerous villians there were.

same thing could be said for your feats as well. it what peopel call beign bias. you think it ok for what spiderman did to DD, but not wolverine? funny how you can be such a hypocrit.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
The punches aren't what I was referring to. More his movement speed. To be able to close in on Daredevil that fast, he doesn't need to have bullet-speed punches to beat him.

The point is, by the time DD reacts to Spidey being in his proximity, he then can't react to the attacks that come afterwards.

Movement speed? So Spiderman MOVES faster than a speeding bullet, too? Since we know Daredevil's radar sense can EASILY keep up with and track MULTIPLE bullets.

This thread was more fun when Jinzin was talking smack yesterday. 🙁

Originally posted by capt it up
same thing could be said for your feats as well. it what peopel call beign bias. you think it ok for what spiderman did to DD, but not wolverine? funny how you can be such a hypocrit.

Funny, I could say the same about you.

Originally posted by Soljer
Movement speed? So Spiderman MOVES faster than a speeding bullet, too? Since we know Daredevil's radar sense can EASILY keep up with and track MULTIPLE bullets.

it ok soljer he been bias with out noticing it which makes it all the funnier

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Funny, I could say the same about you.

really? Im not the one saying that it a low feat becuase one character did it, but not for another.

me being bias would be me saying wolverine putt DD in a nelson is fine, but spiderman punching DD is a low end feat for DD

Originally posted by Soljer
Movement speed? So Spiderman MOVES faster than a speeding bullet, too? Since we know Daredevil's radar sense can EASILY keep up with and track MULTIPLE bullets.

I apologize. I'm having trouble properly articulating my thoughts tonight. Don't you have when key words just leave your mind when you need them?

With the Spider-Man/Daredevil thing, it is my assumption that Spider-Man used his speed to throw DD off using almost what seems to be a richocheting technique. And at times, it seems that Spidey can move faster than a bullet for very short distances. Mostly just reflex speeds it seems. Such as being able to dodge a bullet after it's already been shot and what appears to be, at the most, a foot away from him before he moves.

Originally posted by capt it up
really? Im not the one saying that it a low feat becuase one character did it, but not for another.

me being bias would be me saying wolverine putt DD in a nelson is fine, but spiderman punching DD is a low end feat for DD

Sigh. Alright. Whatever you say, capt. You're right, I'm wrong. I'm tired of this.

Spider-Man vs. Wolverine. Since there are no stipulations concerning this match, then Spider-Man still has his webs. Those combined all of his other superior abilities give him the win against Wolverine just about everytime.

Was the fight location ever established? If not, then I suppose it's assumed that it either takes place in a city scape or a featureless arena? Doesn't really matter. As long as it's not an enclosed space and Spidey gets his webs, the win-lose odds remain the same.

I knew there was a reason why I stopped posting in this thread last time...it just frustrates me.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I apologize. I'm having trouble properly articulating my thoughts tonight. Don't you have when key words just leave your mind when you need them?

With the Spider-Man/Daredevil thing, it is my assumption that Spider-Man used his speed to throw DD off using almost what seems to be a richocheting technique. And at times, it seems that Spidey can move faster than a bullet for very short distances. Mostly just reflex speeds it seems. Such as being able to dodge a bullet after it's already been shot and what appears to be, at the most, a foot away from him before he moves.

That's all very well and good...except....

Captain America's also dodged a bullet at point blank range AFTER it's been fired. And I'm sure Wolverine has a similar feat somewhere.

I don't mean to frustrate you, I'm just trying to point out that all your 'reasoning' could be applied to another character with swapped names, and be suddenly incoherent. 😬.

Originally posted by Soljer
That's all very well and good...except....

Captain America's also dodged a bullet at point blank range AFTER it's been fired. And I'm sure Wolverine has a similar feat somewhere.

I don't mean to frustrate you, I'm just trying to point out that all your 'reasoning' could be applied to another character with swapped names, and be suddenly incoherent. 😬.

No need to apologize. Not your fault at all. You're one of the most logical people with which to debate. Just sometimes I go through periods where I can't properly write my thoughts. And then of course when the same arguments get spewed out over and over again...

When did Cap do that, by the way? Got scans?

Eh. I don't really have a good response to your point here. But really, using that logic, couldn't every character's abilities be similarly-compared the same way? Depending on the circumstances, of course.

I still say logan takes it untill I actaully see spiderman doing some thing that out of logan reflex and combat speed to do.

Originally posted by capt it up
I still say logan takes it untill I actaully see spiderman doing some thing that out of logan reflex and combat speed to do.

How about unload webbing on him? 🤨

Originally posted by capt it up
I still say logan takes it untill I actaully see spiderman doing some thing that out of logan reflex and combat speed to do.

How about unload webbing on him? 🤨

Seriously though, capt. In a no-holds-barred match, Spidey doesn't even have to fight Wolverine. He can easily just incapacitate him.

Originally posted by capt it up
I still say logan takes it untill I actaully see spiderman doing some thing that out of logan reflex and combat speed to do.

He doesn't need to. In a standard environment, Spiderman can simply stay FAR out of Wolverine's reach and spray him down with webbing. Eventually, he's gonna catch Wolverine.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
How about unload webbing on him? 🤨

Seriously though, capt. In a no-holds-barred match, Spidey doesn't even have to fight Wolverine. He can easily just incapacitate him.

which logan can simply cut.

Originally posted by Soljer
He doesn't need to. In a standard environment, Spiderman can simply stay FAR out of Wolverine's reach and spray him down with webbing. Eventually, he's gonna catch Wolverine.

ya and when does spiderman do that? also spiderman goign to ahve wolverine rushing him constantly wolverien will simply cut the webbing that sprayed. what happens when spiderman run's out of webbing? or what happens when spiderman tires?

also what the likly hood of spiderman fight like that? has spiderman ever fought like that? were he simply run's and shot's webbign the whole fight/

How can Wolverine cut it if he can't move his hands?