Originally posted by python99
I am not saying any of you have I am pointing out the fact that it happens on both parts for the Spidey and Wolverine supporters.
Who is going to be the first to admit that they do it.
prove it, you made the claim now prove that it's true.. tell us what alternate realities we've been referencing here?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
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Not only are those speed feats, but also superhuman reflex feats. I have yet to see Wolverine dodge anything of Electro's calibur. And, being that it's electricity, the reflexes required to dodge all those blasts would have to be insane.
Match the Electro one. I'm not even that worried about the Daredevil one, even though I don't recall Wolverine ever moving too fast for DD not to be able to react... 😕
pfffft..... even classic crappy sabretooth has speedblitzed dd before he could react to it.. doesn't make classic sabretooth>>>>>>wolverine in speed does it?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or how about basically any fight with Doc Ock?http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8611/1583ao.jpg
Or any fight with Venom? His spider-sense doesn't work against him, so Spidey has to rely on his superhuman reflexes to fight him.
again daredevil's done the same thing, caps done the same thing.. neither are categoricallly speaking superhuman... 😬
So it's settled then? Spiderman wins in normal conditions, we can finally lock this thread up and Capt it Up with it 🙂
Jinzin, I do have that comic. Wolverine starts his attack when the hammer part of the gun is cocking back, not after it's cocking in. It's hardly tell how impressive it is as Wolverine isn't that far away from Linus, nor do we know how fast Linus is pulling the trigger. It might be that Wolverine just over sped Linus.
Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverine issue 40: Wolverine well carrying a girl , dodges beams many beams of deadly light.This feat is easily just as good if not better. I could of gone into detail with it, but I rather not it take to long.
Wolverine Origins issue 5:
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http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cyclopssucks04hy7.jpgThis one also though no were near as impressive as the feat I posted above it in my opinion is better then that electro feat. Cyclopes aim>>>>>>>>>electros.
Lol you act as if Electro some bad ass. He not and I have enevr been impressed with him or his caliber.
Ya just like the reflexes required to dodge beams or light. Or the reflexes to dodge scots blasts with are way better aimed.
Did it.
Ya and yet DD dodges spiderman all the time? Not to mention after that punch DD dodges a bunch more of spidermans attacks maybe you should read the issue.
Why does wolverine need to do that ? When he simply beats DD like this.
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Um, yea I wouldn't peg Cyke as hard to dodge. Sure that blasts move at the speed of light but if you move of the way from when he aims he aims his head then you'll. If you have scans to show me Wolverine dodging the blasts after they've been fired or something along those lines then we can talk. Green Arrow has dodged lasers, Cap, Nightwing, Iron Fist etc. The way I look at them dodging is they anticipate the trajectory of the shot and move out the way. Same thing they do for bullets. Unless you can prove that they are capable of dodging even after the bullet has been fired then thats how I look at it.
Originally posted by jinzin
and yet when wolverine and spiderman are shown together and spiderman has to second guess himself due to wolverine's speed.. something he even admits to.... ?what happens to your logic then hmm? 😬
He second guessed himself due to Logan's speed? Hope your not talking about Spider-Man vs Wolverine cause it was pretty clear to me that though SM was doubting himself he still had the obvious speed advantage.
Originally posted by capt it up
wait a sec. spiderman dodging a bullet is more impressive then wolverine runninf from 5 feet away and kicking the rocket launcher after it had alread been clicked is not more impreessive?now your just being bias
Cause I have that issue and he wasn't far away enough for me to be like whoa, Logan's blindingly fast!
Originally posted by marvelprince
If you have scans to show me Wolverine dodging the blasts after they've been fired or something along those lines then we can talk.
the first time wolverine dodged cyk's blast was after it was fired.. what was that in? annual 6 maybe..
during origins you see that cyk fired 3 blasts at him while he's reaching for his sword.. he grabs the sword turns around and knocks the beams back at cyclops before they ever even reach him..😬
Originally posted by marvelprince
He second guessed himself due to Logan's speed? Hope your not talking about Spider-Man vs Wolverine cause it was pretty clear to me that though SM was doubting himself he still had the obvious speed advantage.
I wouldn't say it was THAT obvious or THAT large of a gap though... I mean spiderman's thinking wolverine's faster than himself.. next; spiderman dodges a punch, wolverine dodges a punch and then spiderman hits him.. they would appear to be comparible...
cause after that all we see is wolverine letting spiderman hit him in the face..
"here it comes"
which doesn't really negate wolverine's speed in the fight.. he just wasn't using it at the moment.
I think I'm going to steal Mindship's line.
I'm pretty sure every street character has bullet/laser dodging feats.
I'm also pretty sure every street character has been hit by things much slower than bullets, and I'm definitely sure every street character has been hit by things slower than light. And generally they don't display the same speeds as would be required to dodge bullets or lasers after the fact.
Bullets and lasers seem to occupy the special place in comics with nameless faceless Hand ninjas and SHIELD agents. A town called jobber.
Does anyone here really think that either character here could dodge the Flash moving at lightspeed? Or even WW if she was only flying at Mach 4?
Originally posted by Sam Z
Wolverine dodging Cyke's blast after it was fired?🤨 Sounds like a bad writing to me. He'd have to move faster than light...
it IS BAD WRITING...BUT SO IS SPIDERMAN DODGING BULLETS
NEITHER ARE THAT FAST
Only Quicksilver should be able to dodge bullets
However, if you accept Parker dodging bullets than you should accept Logan dodging lasers.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I think I'm going to steal Mindship's line.I'm pretty sure every street character has bullet/laser dodging feats.
I'm also pretty sure every street character has been hit by things much slower than bullets, and I'm definitely sure every street character has been hit by things slower than light. And generally they don't display the same speeds as would be required to dodge bullets or lasers after the fact.
Bullets and lasers seem to occupy the special place in comics with nameless faceless Hand ninjas and SHIELD agents. A town called jobber.
Does anyone here really think that either character here could dodge the Flash moving at lightspeed? Or even WW if she was only flying at Mach 4?
flash? no.. but he's not a bullet....
ww? debateable.. she doesn't have a good track record with that kinda stuff in dc.. 😬
Originally posted by jinzinMoving solely in straight lines? I.e. the equivalent of a laser.
flash? no.. but he's not a bullet....
Originally posted by jinzinLet's go with Superman moving at Mach 4 then in straight lines? 😊
ww? debateable.. she doesn't have a good track record with that kinda stuff in dc.. 😬
Originally posted by masterbruce
it IS BAD WRITING...BUT SO IS SPIDERMAN DODGING BULLETSNEITHER ARE THAT FAST
Only Quicksilver should be able to dodge bullets
However, if you accept Parker dodging bullets than you should accept Logan dodging lasers.
Not really.😬
Lasers = speed of light
Bullets = speed of soundX2
Speed of light >>>>>>>>>>>>>> speed of sound.🤓
Originally posted by masterbruce
it IS BAD WRITING...BUT SO IS SPIDERMAN DODGING BULLETSNEITHER ARE THAT FAST
Only Quicksilver should be able to dodge bullets
However, if you accept Parker dodging bullets than you should accept Logan dodging lasers.
Originally posted by jinzin
exACTly!
Hangun bullets move from 800 fps to 1500 fps and rifle bullets average 2500 fps to 3000 fps. Lasers move at the speed of light which is 186,282.397 MILES PER SECOND. That's not a very good comparison. 🙄
Meh, just wanted to go off topic. 💃
