Originally posted by marvelprince
Thats my point. IF we see Angel in the air and we know that Angel was the one who accidentally KO'ed Kurt we can in fact include that they started out at the same height otherwise Kurt just knocked himself out in midair.
Two different points in time there, champ. He started at Point A (which is what you are talking about), continued his decent to Point B (which is what I'm talking about) and landed at Point C? SO WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POINT A WHEN IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT POINT B? They are two different panels, with two different time frames. The fact that Angel and Nightcrawler where 12 feet above the ground before he was knocked of his perch is irrelevant to what is being discussed... so why keep bringing it up?
Don't bother to respond. I've lost my sense of humour and I doubt I can be civil much longer.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Two different points in time there, champ. He started at Point A (which is what you are talking about), continued his decent to Point B (which is what I'm talking about) and landed at Point C? SO WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POINT A WHEN IN A DISCUSSION ABOUT POINT B? They are two different panels, with two different time frames. The fact that Angel and Nightcrawler where 12 feet above the ground before he was knocked of his perch is irrelevant to what is being discussed... so why keep bringing it up?Don't bother to respond. I've lost my sense of humour and I doubt I can be civil much longer.
Once again I want to know where you are getting your reference to height/distance in this circumstance.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Angel is 6' and Wolverine 5'3, that trapeze can only be so high for those heights to work, and 12 feet is generous.
Originally posted by carver9
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Originally posted by marvelprince
Spider-Man was obviously scared for the child as Wolverine was about to lose control, but for his personal safety? I don't think soWhich means nothing cause its a SHIELD dossier. Its how SHIELD ranks them looking at a collective of things such as ruthlessness, training, etc where powers aren't much of a big deal.
To prove a point. You seem to think that since a large number of Spider-Man's rogue gallery aren't MA's he won't be effective against them in a fight despite being superior in every physical aspect. Just because a certain character is not your typical rogue gallery doesn't mean you can't bea them.
Besides that wasn't a good point anyway seeing as how Spider-Man has faced his share of martial artists
Cause its a ridiculous train? Why is it that Wolverine fans ignore the frames of reference and can't see how stupid and improbable it is for both both Angel and Nightcrawler to be practicing 5 FEET of the ground. Oh, I remember, cause it makes Wolverine look better. Gotcha
Well Wolverine does have a ****load of implants. Then again Nick Fury didn't seem to have to have tooo much difficulting erasing his memory in Secret War
1st i would like to state that every fighter that you named isnt even on robin level of fighting experience. Name me one incredible figther that is in spiderman rogue that is at cap or even daredevil league. The reason why im asking this is because spiderman cant fight expert fighters, very well. Spiderman has lost to elektra, capt (and quite easily), almost got killed by sabertooth, even with the aid of punisher, got beaten by silver samarai and fought 5 hand ninjas and was struggling, actually had to retreat for a while. Thats why i cant see spiderman beating wolverine, wolverine is just to experienced and even though spiderman is faster, he have fought plenty of people that is faster than him and won. Hercules is faster, stronger, more durable but lost to wolverine. Namor is faster, stronger, and more durable but lost to wolverine. Sabertooth with his upgrades is faster, stronger, and more durable but lost to wolverine. Cyber is stronger and more durable but lost to wolverine. Wendigo has superhuman speed, stronger, and more durable but also lost to wolverine, do you get my point. That stuff that you all be saying dont mean nothing. Wolverine is light years more experienced than spiderman and his speed isnt but a notch below spiderman but his fighting skills is a 1000 times what spiderman is.
Now lets get to the shield power set. Shield gave thenumber of there power level and THEN gave a description of there powers. They didnt give wolverine a 9 and then after they gave him the 9 they didnt say "he only got this because he is a threat to shield." They gave him a 9 and then gave a description of his powers. The reason why it matters about what score they gave spiderman and wolverine would be that if they gave spiderman 9 and gave wolverine 8, it would have prove something to me but it didnt happen like that, they said that wolverine could possibly be a 10 once in berserk. Sabertooth was a 9 also, I dont think that he knows much about shield, they are basing it off of there power set.
Wolverine can take spiderman best shots and he might laugh at them but can we say the same for spiderman, nope. Just like the writer said in new avengers, if i had to fight someone on this team beside spiderwoman, spidermwn would be my next choice. Compared to wolverine, captain america, and iron man, spiderman is the weakest. That was the words from a writer. It cant get no better than that. 😆
Originally posted by braz
agreed. sry fanboys, I love Wolverine too, but c'mon, lets get real here, Spidey beats Logan hairy ass.. at least 8-9/10
Show me 1 scan where spiderman beat wolverine, I have shown you some, now show me some. By the way, how in the h*** is spiderman going to beat wolverine and please dont tell me with his 15 ton strength.
my god has anyone actualy read what the Spider-man side has been posting, No one is saying Spider-man beats Logan due to strength its the webbing man the webbing, and people can't say that Logan is going to just dodge everything that is thrown at him because he isn't perfect and can make a mistake.
Also about this whole skilled fighters thing its funny that you say Spidey can't fight anyone on DD's level cause hasn't he fought DD before and done pretty well against him, also fought Cap done well against him. Also kicked the crap out of about 20 true belivers who are in the same league as the hand, what about when Spidey handed Deadpool his ass.
And what is this I hear about herculese being faster than Wolverine? when did this happen exactly your giving one character to much credit there to make Logan look good I think.
Originally posted by carver9
1st i would like to state that every fighter that you named isnt even on robin level of fighting experience. Name me one incredible figther that is in spiderman rogue that is at cap or even daredevil league. The reason why im asking this is because spiderman cant fight expert fighters, very well. Spiderman has lost to elektra, capt (and quite easily), almost got killed by sabertooth, even with the aid of punisher, got beaten by silver samarai and fought 5 hand ninjas and was struggling, actually had to retreat for a while. Thats why i cant see spiderman beating wolverine, wolverine is just to experienced and even though spiderman is faster, he have fought plenty of people that is faster than him and won. Hercules is faster, stronger, more durable but lost to wolverine. Namor is faster, stronger, and more durable but lost to wolverine. Sabertooth with his upgrades is faster, stronger, and more durable but lost to wolverine. Cyber is stronger and more durable but lost to wolverine. Wendigo has superhuman speed, stronger, and more durable but also lost to wolverine, do you get my point. That stuff that you all be saying dont mean nothing. Wolverine is light years more experienced than spiderman and his speed isnt but a notch below spiderman but his fighting skills is a 1000 times what spiderman is.Now lets get to the shield power set. Shield gave thenumber of there power level and THEN gave a description of there powers. They didnt give wolverine a 9 and then after they gave him the 9 they didnt say "he only got this because he is a threat to shield." They gave him a 9 and then gave a description of his powers. The reason why it matters about what score they gave spiderman and wolverine would be that if they gave spiderman 9 and gave wolverine 8, it would have prove something to me but it didnt happen like that, they said that wolverine could possibly be a 10 once in berserk. Sabertooth was a 9 also, I dont think that he knows much about shield, they are basing it off of there power set.
Wolverine can take spiderman best shots and he might laugh at them but can we say the same for spiderman, nope. Just like the writer said in new avengers, if i had to fight someone on this team beside spiderwoman, spidermwn would be my next choice. Compared to wolverine, captain america, and iron man, spiderman is the weakest. That was the words from a writer. It cant get no better than that. 😆
Again power is how much damage you can cause, not how strong you are. Wolverine should get a higher power rating because he can cause more damage when he hits you. He has got freaking claws. If you take Wolverines adamatium claws away what power level do you think he would get considering he is going to rely mostly on his fighting skills and the other abilities he has got? 😕
How many writers does marvel have? Thats just 1
Do you have proof of his quote? Nope
