Originally posted by SoljerActually that'sd be you, demonstrating your lack of reading comprehension. 😐
I didn't change your meaning. Just your words for illustration - you're the one that made the retarded statements.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I still think that Spiderman's punches can do more damage than a car would be able to do.Being hit by something 2 tons shouldn't have the same or greater force than something that can hit with even 10 tons. There's less air resistence on the fist as well as it doesn't cover as much surface area either. and a greater ration of force to surface area, a 213 grain bullet does more damage than a 1 pound bat, because of the greater force behind it.
Originally posted by Soljer
No, a 213 grain bullet does more damage because it has a tiny surface area. It penetrates. Put a baseball on a tee and shoot it. See how far it goes.
Remember? 😉
You tried to correct me by saying it does more damage because of a smaller surface area... which is something I had said.
You fail at reading.. AGAIN.
Originally posted by SoljerOnce again you have to cahnge my steatmetns in order to "win"
I need not repeat myself. If you can't understand from the previous posts, there is no need continuing here."a [...] bullet does more damage than a [...] bat, because of the greater force behind [the bullet]."
You lost. Buck up.
Are strawmen all you have left to argue with?
I don't even need to change any words:
Originally posted by Creshosk
I still think that Spiderman's punches can do more damage than a car would be able to do.Being hit by something 2 tons shouldn't have the same or greater force than something that can hit with even 10 tons. There's less air resistence on the fist as well as it doesn't cover as much surface area either. and a greater ration of force to surface area, a 213 grain bullet does more damage than a 1 pound bat, because of the greater force behind it.
Originally posted by Soljer
No, a 213 grain bullet does more damage because it has a tiny surface area. It penetrates. Put a baseball on a tee and shoot it. See how far it goes.
You tried to correct me on something that I had already stated.
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In order for you to win you have to modify the context and or the words.
You fail at reading, and your need to change words proves this, more.
I need not change anything.
You said that a 213 grain bullet imparts a greater force than a baseball bat, which is simply not the case. You said it did more damage because of the imparting of a greater force, which is simply not the case.
Perhaps my statement should have been interpreted as "No, a 213 grain bullet does more damage [only] because it has a tiny surface area. It penetrates. Put a baseball on a tee and shoot it. See how far it goes." However, I had originally believe you to not need everything spelled out to you.
Funny how you now seem as ignorant as the storm-tards that populate the boards.
Originally posted by SoljerWhich explains why you did... twice and are still doing so. actions speak louder than words, slick.
I need not change anything.
Originally posted by SoljerI already know how you misunderstood my post. By strawmanning you do nothing more than prove that you failed to understand what I said... AGAIN.
You said that a 213 grain bullet imparts a greater force than a baseball bat, which is simply not the case.
Originally posted by Soljerover a smaller surface area... Do you need to go back to the first grade to learn how to read again?
You said it did more damage because of the imparting of a greater force, which is simply not the case.
A bullet being fired from a gun does less damage thatn a person swinging a bat. And I'M the one who fails at physics.
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Originally posted by SoljerI need things to bne spelled out for me, by you chaning the words that I said and thuisly, make them not the words I said... for you to prove the point I already made... this just goes to further prove your reading comprehension sucks.
Perhaps my statement should have been interpreted as "No, a 213 grain bullet does more damage [only] because it has a tiny surface area. It penetrates. Put a baseball on a tee and shoot it. See how far it goes." However, I had originally believe you to not need everything spelled out to you.
Originally posted by SoljerFunny how you ARE as ignorant as the storm-tards that inhabit the boards.
Funny how you now seem as ignorant as the storm-tards that populate the boards.
Of course I'm going to seem stupid to an idiot who can't even read properly.
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Neither you nor them can argue yusing the words that the person actually said, and you both ignore physics, logic, and common sense.
Originally posted by Creshosk
as well as it doesn't cover as much surface area either. and a greater ration of force to surface area, a 213 grain bullet does more damage than a 1 pound bat, because of the greater force behind it.
Originally posted by Soljer
No, a 213 grain bullet does more damage because it has a tiny surface area.
Originally posted by Soljer
Fine by me, but there goes Wolverine's speed advantage when pit against Robin.And considering Robin's skill showings, it's not out of the realm of likelihood that he gets a single pressure-point shot and ends the fight. Healing Factor or not. 😐.
I think we'll give Robin the benefit of the doubt here for arguments sake:
If Robin has comparible speed feats compared to Wolverine than I can't argue that Wolverine's faster...
HOWEVER, to compare to the two characters, Robin plunges into the same pitfall as Spiderman... Fatigue... Only Robin will be afflicted MUCH faster and FAR more potently.
For example.. a track meet between Robin and Wolverine... if they competed against one another in a 400, Robin would begin to tire in his capacity for speed as soon as he got past 50 yards.. Wolverine would not.. the gap would only continue to grow at a geometric rate, and for a fight, Robin would be faced with the same problem...
Robin's showings of skill vs. Wolverine's showings of skill would cause me to believe that Robin isn't going to get that shot...
Especially since Wolverine has a considerable reach advantage.
And... uhhhhh are you joking? Wolverine isn't gettingone shotted by a pressure point lest the fight's written by Garth Ennis.. 😐
Originally posted by Creshosk
Which explains why you did... twice. actions speak louder than words, slick.
Initiating an action doesn't mean you NEED to.
I come to these boards almost daily, though I needn't (and probably shouldn't, when I have far more pressing matters to consider. That's about as far as procrastination gets me...)
I already know how you misunderstood my post. By strawmanning you do nothing more than prove that you failed to understand what I said... AGAIN.over a smaller surface area... Do you need to go back to the first grade to learn how to read again?
You asserted that a bullet imparted a greater force than a baseball bat. You made a mistake, it's okay to admit being human, my friend. 🙂.
A bullet being fired from a gun does less damage thatn a person swinging a bat. And I'M the one who fails at physics.
Never said that a baseball bat did more damage, simply imparted a greater force.
I need things to bne spelled out for me, by you chaning the words that I said and thuisly, make them not the words I said... for you to prove the point I already made... this just goes to further prove your reading comprehension sucks.
I'm sorry, I don't speak ignorant.
Originally posted by jinzinFor example.. a track meet between Robin and Wolverine... if they competed against one another in a 400, Robin would begin to tire in his capacity for speed as soon as he got past 50 yards.. Wolverine would not.. the gap would only continue to grow at a geometric rate, and for a fight, Robin would be faced with the same problem...
Nahh, Robin may start going a slight bit slower than Wolverine after a few miles, but he won't even notice the fatigue till then. Fifty yards? 😆.
Originally posted by jinzinRobin's showings of skill vs. Wolverine's showings of skill would cause me to believe that Robin isn't going to get that shot...
Especially since Wolverine has a considerable reach advantage.
And... uhhhhh are you joking? Wolverine isn't gettingone shotted by a pressure point lest the fight's written by Garth Ennis.. 😐
Robin's showings of skill versus Wolverine's 'rawr, snikt, bub!' routine?
Are you kidding me? Robin has been portrayed as vastly most skilled than logan, on a regular basis.
And, for the record, that issue set an unignorable precedent.
Originally posted by jinzin
Registering a P-point on a person with a healing factor is fine.. Healing factors don't negate pain...
Taking someone like Wolverine down with a single pressure point shot though? Are you seriously going to try and insist that that is a legitimate argument? 😐
As legitimate as taking down Solomon Grundy and Wonder Woman with a single pressure point?
Abso-fugging-lutely.
Originally posted by SoljerRiiight... pull the other one.
Initiating an action doesn't mean you NEED to.I come to these boards almost daily, though I needn't (and probably shouldn't, when I have far more pressing matters to consider. That's about as far as procrastination gets me...)
Originally posted by SoljerYou "corrected" me by repeating exactly the same damn thing I'd been saying.
I never misunderstood you. I simply correct you.
Which oh, I guess mean that yes, you misunderstood me.
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Damn logic.. it keeps proving you wrong.
Originally posted by SoljerAgain...
You asserted that a bullet imparted a greater force than a baseball bat.
"A bullet being fired from a gun has less force than a person swinging a bat...
and I'm the one who fails at physics?
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Want me to highlight the sarcasm? I probably should since you suck at context... which is important to reading comprehension.
Originally posted by SoljerI would admit to a mistake if you were trying to assert something different from what I said. 😬
You made a mistake, it's okay to admit being human, my friend. 🙂.
But by saying the same damned thing and then saying you are "correcting me" Its obvious that you didn't understand what I said, and thus aren't understanding a damned thing we're talking about.
Originally posted by SoljerAnd isn't DAMAGE what we're talking about? Like how I've been saying spiderman's fist will do more DAMAGE than a car?
Never said that a baseball bat did more damage, simply imparted a greater force.
Bullet=spiderman's fist (smaller surface area, greater speed (less wind resistance, less distance to cross) greater force)
Car=bat(Larger surface area, less speed(Acceleration is good but with a greater distance the falloff due to wind resistance makes the speed drop drastically))
Is this part of physics (aerodynamics) really that hard to grasp for you?
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Originally posted by SoljerNo, you speak English poorly, you speak ignorant fluently.
I'm sorry, I don't speak ignorant.
You're like a little kid, more concerned with how a message is presented rather than the meaning of the message.
Like a little kid on Christmas who'd rather play with a box than what the gift actually is.
Thank you for taking the bait so I could point out another one of your flaws. As I said, you make this too easy. 😉
Originally posted by jinzin
Registering a P-point on a person with a healing factor is fine.. Healing factors don't negate pain...
The Hulk didnt really look like he was in pain just shocked or stunned. The point is that if Cap was stronger he could have Koed or stunned him. Im pretty sure some presure points dont even hurt they just KO you.
I guess you could be right but as usual it looks like your giving Wolverine the benefit of the doubt and making excuses. An MA with sufficient skill should be able to KO Wolverine. Somehow I think Mantis could do it.
Originally posted by jinzin
Taking someone like Wolverine down with a single pressure point shot though? Are you seriously going to try and insist that that is a legitimate argument? 😐
Yes because he has dropped Mr Hyde who has taken shots from Thor. Dont bother telling me that Mr Hyde doesnt have a healing factor, pressure points work just the same on people with healing factors as they do with people with superhuman durability. The Hulk example shows that.