It should be noted that, in response to the recent discussion, spider-sense has worked on illusions (detecting them), invisibility, astral projection, in addition to regular physical attacks. Someone with his gigantic canon will obviously have low showings as well, so there have been instances of him getting hit sans any sort of warning. Which feats you choose to count and ignore, and the weight you assign them, probably depends largely on which side you're attempting to argue for here.
Originally posted by Digi
I doubt many would argue against that. It would be like taking Logan's claws from him. Hence why this immensely popular thread includes both.
I agree but we do have on panel showings of both that contradict if the webbing would work on logan or fail on him.
We have one showing of Spiderman webbing Logan up in a alley with his hands pinned to his head. Now if you look at the reason why it happened then you cant use that as a feat for spidey because Wolverine really wasnt even paying attention to Spidey when he did it, he was going after the kid and Spiderman took advantage of that opportunity (while being terrified of Logan the entire time).
Then we have Marvel Knights, during training, Spiderman webs up Logan but Logan easily cut through the webbing and stabs Spidey in the chest.
I dont think that the webbing is the ace in the hole because Wolvy can either dodge it or cut through it.
That is why I'm giving him the majority.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW❌ It only makes sense when bad writing occures. ss does not only warn of danger, Parker can sense "bad guys" presense BLOCKS away even if they dont pose immidiate threat, I dont see how stealth would help. He can sense things around him, even tell the exact number and shape of things he's sensing, can pretty much walk through the city with his eyes closed without bumping into anyone. The way his ss has been handled post OMD makes me want to cry.
Its sensitivity fluctuates. It only makes sense that Parker'd get warned about some yelling thug faster than about some ninja.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree but we do have on panel showings of both that contradict if the webbing would work on logan or fail on him.We have one showing of Spiderman webbing Logan up in a alley with his hands pinned to his head. Now if you look at the reason why it happened then you cant use that as a feat for spidey because Wolverine really wasnt even paying attention to Spidey when he did it, he was going after the kid and Spiderman took advantage of that opportunity (while being terrified of Logan the entire time).
Then we have Marvel Knights, during training, Spiderman webs up Logan but Logan easily cut through the webbing and stabs Spidey in the chest.
I dont think that the webbing is the ace in the hole because Wolvy can either dodge it or cut through it.
That is why I'm giving him the majority.
I...wasn't really talking about any of that. But ok, cool.
Originally posted by SamZED
❌ It only makes sense when bad writing occures. ss does not only warn of danger, Parker can sense "bad guys" presense BLOCKS away even if they dont pose immidiate threat, I dont see how stealth would help. He can sense things around him, even tell the exact number and shape of things he's sensing, can pretty much walk through the city with his eyes closed without bumping into anyone. The way his ss has been handled post OMD makes me want to cry.
Gotta love high showings. It's been stated on panel that pre-Fatal Attractions Wolverine could heal any internal damage instantaneously. I guess it's a stalemate then, with Spidey never getting tagged and Logan's invincibility.
Anyway...
Originally posted by Badabing
All threads are current characters, regardless of when the thread was made, unless the OP states a specific era or version.
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW😆 Touche. 😆 Yeah, normally I say Spider-man can take 4/10 but still lose majority to Logan because of his CIS. Current Spidey I wouldn't even give 2-3/10.
Gotta love high showings. It's been stated on panel that pre-Fatal Attractions Wolverine could heal any internal damage instantaneously. I guess it's a stalemate then, with Spidey never getting tagged and Logan's invincibility.Anyway...
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Originally posted by ParmaniacI mean every book published since OMD (except maybe amazing Spider-man digitals, those were good) It seems Spider-man didnt just lose his upgrades but forgot how most of his powers work and lost all his experience. It seems like, it's Peter Parker from 70s. He even seems younger.
You're reffering to the gauntlet run?
Originally posted by SamZEDYeah not in a crazy mofo HF like DP or Wolvie more like the wound stops bleeding and after a few days some bone stuff covers the wound and a new limb forms, Spidey shouldn't have a real HF that's for sure.
With regeneration ability Pete would be at risk of losing limbs like every couple of issues just for the sake of joke, Marvel writers think it's funny, look at recent Deadpool books. He doesnt get through an issue without getting his hand/leg torn off.
Originally posted by SamZED
With regeneration ability Pete would be at risk of losing limbs like every couple of issues just for the sake of joke, Marvel writers think it's funny, look at recent Deadpool books. He doesnt get through an issue without getting his hand/leg torn off.
And Wolverine for some reason always proves to be unable to regenerate limbs and stays crippled... Aaron's Captain Hook-verine really pissed me off.
Even Laura grew her arm back 🙁
Originally posted by ParmaniacHe already heals at accelerated rate, but yeah that's be nice if it was more advanced. That reminds me, in one of the old books Peter was said to have a super ability to "black out pain" heh.
Yeah not in a crazy mofo HF like DP or Wolvie more like the wound stops bleeding and after a few days some bone stuff covers the wound and a new limb forms, Spidey shouldn't have a real HF that's for sure.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWPissed me off as well. The only thing that makes it tolerable- we have no idea what kind of future they live in. For all we know Hookverine somehow lost his healing factor. Could be natural, could be magic for all we know. Eitherway noone in their right mind and at least common knowledge about Wolverine would say that he can't grow back an arm.
And Wolverine for some reason always proves to be unable to regenerate limbs and stays crippled... Aaron's Captain Hook-verine really pissed me off.Even Laura grew her arm back 🙁
Originally posted by SamZED
He already heals at accelerated rate, but yeah that's be nice if it was more advanced. That reminds me, in one of the old books Peter was said to have a super ability to "black out pain" heh.Pissed me off as well. The only thing that makes it tolerable- we have no idea what kind of future they live in. For all we know Hookverine somehow lost his healing factor. Could be natural, could be magic for all we know. Eitherway noone in their right mind and at least common knowledge about Wolverine would say that he can't grow back an arm.
He was powerless? Was that stated? I thought that was some special acid Deathloks used or something...
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Originally posted by StiltmanFTWJust checked it. It wasn't stated, but his HF was definitely weakened. I mean, a freakin accid permanently killing him...😬 That probably explains why he couldnt grow his arms back, dont see any other reason.
He was powerless? Was that stated? I thought that was some special acid Deathloks used or something...👆