Originally posted by DigiWhat made you change your mind? The character change?
Indeed it was. And yes, I repped Spidey originally in this thread. Had a change of heart eventually though. Mind you, if pressed, I'll still only say 6/10 to Logan, and it swings back in Pete's favor if we use 1 of maybe 3-4 gimmick costumes he's had through the years that amp his abilities. But "regular" Spidey, yeah.
I thought you put a 7/10 for Spider-Man in my fanboy test thread like a year ago.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What feats?I'm not saying Wolverine is a slug, he isn't. But Spider-Man isn't slower, that's just insane.
Spider-Man also holds back a lionshare of his speed.
Thing is many characters in that environment do those feats, but they aren't faster than a legic superhuman. It's all good though. I like tons of characters, and I don't post here as often as I used to. When I read Logan is faster than Spider-Man I shake my head.
Gorgon has been hit by Wolverine more than Spider-Man has by the claws.
This would be a nice example:
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Actually Wolverine was always stated as peak or enhanced. I would say he is high peak in speed or low enhanced, only Spider-Man has been stated as true superhuman. By comic terms.All of the "feats" that are being brought up have been done by dozens of street levelers. At the end of the day Parker is still faster.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWLike SPidey said: "I'm sure there are a few of you true believers who may disagree with my classifications. Tell me why by writing to: "Spidey's Power Chart" c/o Marvel Comics, 575 Madison Ave. New York, N.Y. 10022!"
This is beyond retarded.Thing > Surfer shocklaugh
Do it DO IT!
Originally posted by SamZEDPlus pretty much all of the villains are pretty shitty
"The best there is" proveded some nice speed/hf feats, but im kinda getting tired of the story.
Originally posted by SamZED
"The best there is" proveded some nice speed/hf feats, but im kinda getting tired of the story.
There is a new arc coming soon, I believe.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Like SPidey said: "I'm sure there are a few of you true believers who may disagree with my classifications. Tell me why by writing to: "Spidey's Power Chart" c/o Marvel Comics, 575 Madison Ave. New York, N.Y. 10022!"Do it DO IT!
I'm not writing any letters to that ****.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Plus pretty much all of the villains are pretty shitty
Slaughter and Scavenger work for me. Madcap is just here for the comic relief. They are all z-listers though.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
What made you change your mind? The character change?I thought you put a 7/10 for Spider-Man in my fanboy test thread like a year ago.
I may have. It's hard to remember much of anything that far back on KMC, unfortunately.
Not sure when the actual change came. I've never been one to cling too strongly to my favorite characters in close fights. To me, I take as much pride in admitting my characters' limitations as I do repping them beyond reason. Being a "fanboy" should include a full knowledge of both good and bad of a character. And frankly, physical superiority and spider-sense is the main thing keeping Pete's fight stupidity in check. Wolverine would be more efficient and deadly even if we're considering this to be Pete not holding back.
This thread was dead for ages. Not sure of the reason for the bump.
Originally posted by DigiBy fight stupidity do you mean him playing around too much or what? In a fight Wolverine doesn't always use the best strategy either.
I may have. It's hard to remember much of anything that far back on KMC, unfortunately.Not sure when the actual change came. I've never been one to cling too strongly to my favorite characters in close fights. To me, I take as much pride in admitting my characters' limitations as I do repping them beyond reason. Being a "fanboy" should include a full knowledge of both good and bad of a character. And frankly, physical superiority and spider-sense is the main thing keeping Pete's fight stupidity in check. Wolverine would be more efficient and deadly even if we're considering this to be Pete not holding back.
Webbing alone seals the deal for me though, but on the other end Srank gives Spider-Man the majority so I guess it's all good.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
This thread was dead for ages. Not sure of the reason for the bump.By fight stupidity do you mean him playing around too much or what? In a fight Wolverine doesn't always use the best strategy either.
Webbing alone seals the deal for me though, but on the other end Srank gives Spider-Man the majority so I guess it's all good.
Slower and more stupid than Wolverine have avoided the webbing, and the classic "it only takes one" argument for Wolverine is a persistent one.
Depending on what you think the outcome of a web barrage would be, you might be right. It's not a tactic Pete uses early and/or often though, and we do consider CIS. And if it fails, such outbursts usually leave him at the end of a cartridge that he'd likely never have time to replace.
Because we can talk about mythical "Prime" versions of either one (I know you'll know what I mean by Prime, you've been here long enough), but at the end of the day, Pete does tend to get hit more by skilled opponents than his power set suggests he should. Even with SS. His stats save him in other "vs. MAer" fights, but not here (mind you, a small majority still).
Originally posted by DigiWell I guess it goes both ways, it's definitely caught smarter, faster, and deadlier opponents. In a fight where they're at their max, Wolverine can't cut through all of it, it has to harden first and his arms have to be in the position to do so. Spider-Man has two arms that can shoot a wide area, so if Spider-Man were knowingly against such odds he could do that.
Slower and more stupid than Wolverine have avoided the webbing, and the classic "it only takes one" argument for Wolverine is a persistent one.Depending on what you think the outcome of a web barrage would be, you might be right. It's not a tactic Pete uses early and/or often though, and we do consider CIS. And if it fails, such outbursts usually leave him at the end of a cartridge that he'd likely never have time to replace.
Because we can talk about mythical "Prime" versions of either one (I know you'll know what I mean by Prime, you've been here long enough), but at the end of the day, Pete does tend to get hit more by skilled opponents than his power set suggests he should. Even with SS. His stats save him in other "vs. MAer" fights, but not here (mind you, a small majority still).
The problem with the "It only takes one" is that Spider-Man has never been hit in a serious match by the claws, but he has webbed Wolverine. And Spider-Man also faces faster and deadly enemies who can kill him in one hit, like Carnage for example, and with no SS. Not to mention Spider-Man relies on his webbing more than Wolverine relies on his "skill" (because he usually doesn't need to).
Lol, the prime versions. I suppose he gets hit against popular characters with the need to make it a match, but he has had good showings against them, I'd mark some down as PIS (like Cap for example). I think there's a difference between a comic match where the characters have a book to sell and they are messing around, and a KMC match where Spider-Man is a good deal faster than peak humans like Batman and such.
There's also the "skilled" argument. Spider-Man has had decades of experience, and skill is more than formal MA training. Spider-Man is adept at things that other characters are not and is more unorthodox. I think Wolverine can win of course, but the environment would have to favor him. Spider-Man's speed, maneuverability and options make him take the fight where he wants to go. I understand your assessment though, but I think Spider-Man in a "Mary Jane just got killed scenario (like in the what if) would win a majority.
Just me though, sorry about the long post.
Originally posted by Tha C-MasterThe problem with the "It only takes one" is that Spider-Man has never been hit in a serious match by the claws, but he has webbed Wolverine.
Five bucks I know what your refferring to and that was far from a fight, but i wait and see the example you bring forth.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Not to mention Spider-Man relies on his webbing more than Wolverine relies on his "skill" (because he usually doesn't need to).
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Lol, the prime versions. I suppose he gets hit against popular characters with the need to make it a match, but he has had good showings against them, I'd mark some down as PIS (like Cap for example).
So now Capt hitting Spiderman is PIS? 🙄
On a side note, I did not forget about you Sam, I just work two full time jobs, and work every day, so it hard for me to get on. My response to your post will take a while to finish, I apologies for the delay.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThat's ok, take your time. I know working on summer can be a real pain.
On a side note, I did not forget about you Sam, I just work two full time jobs, and work every day, so it hard for me to get on. My response to your post will take a while to finish, I apologies for the delay.
