Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When was he stated as peak? I know of only one book. He was dancing circles around Wendy and Hulk in his first appearance and Hulk's reflexes are without equal according to freakin Mandarin. In the old UXM issue he sliced Colosso (the Danger Room robot) faster than the eyes could see.

Not at all. Wolverine has loads of feats that I haven't seen replicated by non-superhuman streets.

Parker is faster a bit, but if you really believe that he has meta speed and Wolverine doesn't... well, Spidey is the slowest meta then 😆

I'm not saying Wolverine is a slug, he isn't. But Spider-Man isn't slower, that's just insane.

Spider-Man also holds back a lionshare of his speed.

Thing is many characters in that environment do those feats, but they aren't faster than a legic superhuman.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
indeed. i was a long time spider-man supporter then that new day crap. In fact i only recently (since ND) picked up a spider-man and that was only because i had a little money to spare and because from all the things i have been reading on here i wanted to see whats up. i still really like spider-man i just hope they can bring his story back from the depths of h*ll.

(haha see what i did there at the end?)

Gorgon has been hit by Wolverine more than Spider-Man has by the claws.

Originally posted by carver9
I have seen Wolverine cut through and dodge faster moving objects than Spideys webbing. I have also seen him dodge Spiderman webbing as well along with cutting through it. Can he use that as a win, sure can but not for a majority imo... especially since Logan knows to look out for it.

Originally posted by carver9
When you have people like Daredevil, Cap, Puma, King Pin, along with other streets not having any issues at tagging Spidey but Wolverine can't, yes the writer is saving him. What san writer would have Wolverine chopping Spiderman arm or leg off... it will never happen. You can even base things like this off of the Xmen showings as well. Every time a major villian shows. The first person they display their destructive powers on is logan while the other member don't even receive a flesh wound.

Its just how it is. Wolverine is as fast or faster than Cap and Cap was putting those hands on an amped Spiderman and he did it easily but yet, Logan can't get a claw swipe in. All of this is common sense. Daredevil tagged a PISSED Spiderman, along with NUMEROUS of others that are below Logan speed wise.

If I had a Spider Sense and we had the same speed but my agility was better than yours, "you will not touch me" if I knew you were attack me ahead of time. Its just how it is. Spiderman spider sense has warned him that lightning was about to hit him and he dodged it in enough time and he SURE as hell isn't close to being the speed of lightning.

A>B>C Logic? ok. Wolverine is as fast as Cap. Cap ON-PANEL was confirmed to be much slower than friggin Scorpion who is <<<<< Spider-man in speed, so it makes Spider-man >>>>>>>> Wolverine in speed? Doesnt work that way. First of all, whenever Spider-man fights Cap a ton of CIS is involved. Secondly, as weird as it may sound, its way easier for Spider-man to dodge claws, than it is for him to dodge fists. That's because he's used to rely on his ss and its more efective the greater the danger is. Now, it is no longer the case as these days he has no ss and got used to rely purely on his speed and reflexes. So what do we get? Just recently he was effortlessly running circles around Batroc the leaper and his army of armed thugs, upgraded Scorpion and a bunch of veloceraptors all without getting tagged and kicking their collective asses. That's how his speed works if we dont take low showings as standart.

Assuming you're not runing away and trying to fight me in cqc, you might.. MIGHT dodge one attack if you're lucky but wont dodge the second one I assure you. Lightning hitting from miles away with him getting a warning like a secod before it strikes isnt the same as dodging a series of attacks in close quarets combat.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... Wolverine can do that as well and Wolverine showings of doing this is better than Spidermans. Wolverine has crossed a room faster and blitzed 10 soldiers at blinding speed and then cut the barrells off ALL of their guns in a blur fashion before they even got the thought process that they were under attack.

Originally posted by SamZED
tbh so has Deadpool. And that doesnt make him faster than Spider-man. Peter has crossed not a room but an entire mansion. And did it so fast that lots of cameras and dozens upon dozens soldiers could not tell what the hell is beating the crap outta them.

I can safely say that ive read most of Wolverine's best feats (heck posted some of them myself on various forums) and the ones i have missed somehow ive seen posted by others, read and re-read the respect thread a countless times. And I honestly do not see how his pure speed is even = Spider-man's let alone >> Spider-man's. Cause ive seen Spider-man pull feats I dont see Logan do, but not vice versa.

The lack of SS probably made him take it less it easy on his enemies.

Originally posted by SamZED
What you did here is take Spider-man's low showings and apply them for Wolverine fight. But it works both ways. If someone like an ordinary gorilla can put Logan down briefly why shouldnt one class 10 punch do so? Because Logan's constantly shown durability beyond that. Same with Spider-man. He's always shown blitzing teams and those same characters you've mentioned he's defeated without any efforts in the past. So no, this "he's a hero so he didn't die" doesnt fly around here. He didnt get chopped because he was too fast to get chopped.

A>B>C Logic? ok. Wolverine is as fast as Cap. Cap ON-PANEL was confirmed to be much slower than friggin Scorpion who is <<<<< Spider-man in speed, so it makes Spider-man >>>>>>>> Wolverine in speed? Doesnt work that way. First of all, whenever Spider-man fights Cap a ton of CIS is involved. Secondly, as weird as it may sound, its way easier for Spider-man to dodge claws, than it is for him to dodge fists. That's because he's used to rely on his ss and its more efective the greater the danger is. Now, it is no longer the case as these days he has no ss and got used to rely purely on his speed and reflexes. So what do we get? Just recently he was effortlessly running circles around Batroc the leaper and his army of armed thugs, upgraded Scorpion and a bunch of veloceraptors all without getting tagged and kicking their collective asses. That's how his speed works if we dont take low showings as standart.

Assuming you're not runing away and trying to fight me in cqc, you might.. MIGHT dodge one attack if you're lucky but wont dodge the second one I assure you. Lightning hitting from miles away with him getting a warning like a secod before it strikes isnt the same as dodging a series of attacks in close quarets combat.

So its a low showing to ge tagged by Cap, Kingpin, and Daredevil? What the hell? The people that I have named share similar feats that Spiderman has, so why is it a low showing?

As for bltzing a room full of super humans... didn't Wolverine take out 200 super humans that invaded shield before they even got a bead on who it was that was killing them? Wolverine also took out the super human group called the "dark riders" ( I think that was their names) before they realized who it was that was killing them.

Was it confirmed on-panel that Scorpion was slower than Spiderman or did Spiderman spider sense save him again because classic Scorpion kept up with Spiderman just fine, so a Scorpion with an upgrade should as well.

Let's not use Spiderman rogue as any type of evidence because Venom alone has struggled to tag Wolverine and Puma couldn't even get a solid hit on a poisoned Wolverine and let's not forget the famous showing of Wolverine blitzing speed demon.

I'm not saying that Spiderman is slow and I'm not saying that Logan is faster but what I am saying is Spiderman being faster is debatable... VERY debatable and majority of the things you are mentioning has a lot to do with Spidermans speed, agility, and Spider Sense whereas Wolverine feats are mainly pure speed. Like I said before, Spiderman has commented on Wolverines speed and even pretended to be Logan.

As for your comment on Spiderman dodging Wolverine claws... like I said before, all of these people have tagged Spiderman and tagged him easily. Morlun has beat Spiderman sensless and his speed isn't on Wolvys level (Spiderman spider sense wasn't working against him...lol) and I know for a fact that Spiderman wasn't trying to take those licks, so again, if much slower people than Logan and people that are on Logan level can tag Spidey, why can't Wolverine? Wolverine has tagged NUMEROUS of speedsters, so I don't understand why his claws fail to hit Spidey and then when he had the chance to claw him, the writers decide to make Wolverine pull his claws in and punch Spiderman instead.

If you dont believe that spidey getting tagged by peak human is a low showing, then idk what u think is a low showing for him. I mean, hes simply faster and much more agile than those characters, even without SS, so when they easily tag him, it makes anyone whos seen his consistent and upper feats wonder "what the hell?"

Originally posted by namorsubby
If you dont believe that spidey getting tagged by peak human is a low showing, then idk what u think is a low showing for him. I mean, hes simply faster and much more agile than those characters, even without SS, so when they easily tag him, it makes anyone whos seen his consistent and upper feats wonder "what the hell?"

Originally posted by superbatman86
His consistent showings always have him getting punched by street levels even at his strongest and fastest.

Since u probably dont have time to skim through his entire comic history, u might wanna do something more simple like visit a respect thread. Its so crazy when people try to act as if peak humans like cap,dd, etc are virtual on the same level speed/agtility wise. it just shows how little they know of his entire history. They only know of the highly popular encounters hes had with some of those peaks.

I think it is just a dislike of the character and/or trolling.

Originally posted by superbatman86
His consistent showings always have him getting punched by street levels even at his strongest and fastest.

And this is what people do not understand... consistency. If we use Wolverine highest showings, of course people like Cap and Daredevil can't touch him but it doesn't work that way. There should be NO REASON AT ALL that Wolverine should not be able to land a single FULL claw swipe on Spiderman... none at all.

Yes they would because Wolverine gets hit way more often than Spider-Man.

Now Wolverine at his best wouldn't be hurt much by Cap or DD but that's a different story.

He hasn't hit him with a *swipe* in a real match, and not on a KMC match.

Originally posted by superbatman86
His consistent showings always have him getting punched by street levels even at his strongest and fastest.

At his strongest and fastest showings they barely touch him.

Originally posted by carver9
And this is what people do not understand... consistency. If we use Wolverine highest showings, of course people like Cap and Daredevil can't touch him but it doesn't work that way. There should be NO REASON AT ALL that Wolverine should not be able to land a single FULL claw swipe on Spiderman... none at all.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Umm, yes there is. Because spidey isnt just standing there trying to evade all his blows and not attacking himself. Seeing as wolverine is certainly not faster, and spidey is much more agile, along with SS he has the clear advantage when it comes to evading and/or attacking. Meaning hell get hit less and hit more. And despite what some of u guys seem to think, spidey does have the sufficient strength to KO wolverine(who isnt so much superdurable as he seems with that hf). With that being said, spidey doesnt even have to KO him. he has a long ranged attack in webbing that wolvie can hardly evade or get around when applied in a certain fashion. Even if he can manage to evade a stream of web over a large area, spidey has created space and will have time to use the same attack again.

Spiderman can and will KO Wolverine. And yes Spiderman can coat the area with webbing and trap wolverine. jusst because he never did it on panel dosen't mean he can't. Peter has never taken a shit on panel either, but that dosen't mean he dosen't.

You opened a storm my friend. 🙂

GET SOME COVER! HURRY!!!!

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You opened a storm my friend. 🙂

I ain't scared!!!uhuh

Threads have been made on all of these issues before though.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Threads have been made on all of these issues before though.

I know I have been here since 2007. Like I said I ain't scared at all. I know there coming. Been battling them for a certain while in numerous Wolverine/Sabertooth thread. Not mention any names though. But they know who they are. ✅