The Official Shipping Debate Thread [merged]

Originally posted by KKdave
Yes! I see Ron and Hermione being much more brother -sister then actually liking eachother. I think all of Ron's "jealously" about krum and stuff was mroe of brotherly protection, because he acted the exact same way with any boy ginny was daiting in OOTP. As soon as he found out they were an item he started hating them. You'd think if they were an item he would treat her differently then he does his sister.

I agree! I think what get's me about there arguing, is that sometimes they say some pretty awful things to each other! The way they argue is no different from the arguments that Hermione sometimes gets into with Harry himself. The way Ron reacted to when he found out that Ginny was dating, was kind of like how he reacted to Hermioone - the same brotherly protection thing. I dunno. It just seems like to mje that there arguements don't have any romance in it.

Originally posted by dark1365
Read GoF again, married couples wouldn't scream at each other like that, when Harry got back to the common room from the Yule Ball.

Couples do scream at each other like that when they're angry. And as I keep saying, even if Ron and Hermione don't end up together, she probably won't end up with Harry. And the only reason Ron and Hermione don't end up together would probably be from death. And about the whole clue thing she pretty much said the same thing about Ron and Hermione. So really, That quote you said really doesn't count too much as a clue because she said it many times with the Ron and Hermione questions as well. And she says stuff like that a lot more with the Ron and Hermione questions than the Harry and Hermione questions. and as I said before, When Ginny has a date, Ron reacts differently towards it than when Hermione has a date. So really, There isn't anything Brotherly-sisterly about the whole date concept.

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
When Ginny has a date, Ron reacts differently towards it than when Hermione has a date.

Yeah, but you guys are making it sound like Ron acts brotherly towards hermione. he doesn't act brotherly towards Hermione. Harry seems a lot more brotherly towards her, and it would make sense for the fact Harry doesn't have any brothers or sisters.

What we actually meant was that they don't act couple-ish toward each other. Period. Actually, that was what I meant.

Well I really don't think Harry and Hermione act couple-ish.

hey what do u think guys of this interviews of Jkr

QUOTE I think that my publishers were keen not to have the embargo broken, but they have my wholehearted support in that not from the marketing point of view, but because this was the book in which you saw the first death and also at the end of the Book Four something *huge* happens in terms of the over all plot, which I don't want to say on the radio obviously in case people haven't read the book or is half way through it. And I didn't want that to leak because for children ... that would... you know... I... I've... I've spent ten years... I mean, the final... the closing scene in Book Four... I've spent ten years writing my way towards that scene and people who have read that will know why it's so significant, why it's so important. I did not want that leaked. Because I knew that kids were waiting with bated breath and I really genuinely wanted that to be a magical experience. That they would get the book and read and get frightened and excited and overwrought as they approached that ending. (emphasis mine)

(so what closing scene in Gof is significant?)

QUOTE "I love a good whodunnit and my passion is plot construction. Readers loved to be tricked, but not conned," Rowling says, warming to her theme. "The best twist ever in literature is in Jane Austen's Emma. To me she is the target of perfection at which we shoot in vain."

(she really plotted the books)

QUOTE Stephen Fry: Now Order of the Phoenix. It’s 766 pages long. That is a big book by any standards and as I have to sit in front of a microphone and read it all for hours and hours I’m very cross with you [He was joking kids!] but on the other hand it’s extraordinary good value as you planned seven books in the series and you could have written eight just with the words you’ve done in the first five. Did you know it was going to be this long? JK Rowling: No I didn’t. I will say this. I had to put in some things because of what’s to come in Books Six and Seven and I didn’t want anyone to say to me: “What a cheat. You never gave us clues!” Because if I didn’t mention certain things in Order of the Phoenix, you could have said: “Well you sprang that on us!” Whereas I want you to be able to guess if you’ve got your wits about you. There are a few surprises coming.

(We as H/Hr’s have tried to show clues that we have noticed while reading the series that are suggestive of a final H/Hr pairing. There have been clues in all five books that have been discussed and debated. The clues are there, should that be the direction that JKR intends on going with this series. I would not feel that she had cheated us or had conned her readers if she does indeed write H/Hr as the ultimate romantic pairing “in the fullness of time.”)

QUOTE JEREMY PAXMAN: But do you find the whole secrecy issue, the need for secrecy, a bit ridiculous? JK ROWLING: No. JEREMY PAXMAN: Why not? JK ROWLING: No not at all. Well, a lot of it comes from me. JEREMY PAXMAN: Really? JK ROWLING: Yeah definitely. I mean, of course one could be cynical, and I'm sure you would be disposed to be so and say it was a marketing ploy, but I don't want the kids to know what's coming. Because that's part of the excitement of the story, and having - you know - sweated blood to create all my red herrings and lay all my clues.... to me it's not a ...this is my ....this is my....I was going to say this is my life, it's not my life, but it is a very important part of my life.

(lastly)

QUOTE JEREMY PAXMAN: So there will be some pairing up will there in this book? JK ROWLING: Well in the fullness of time. JEREMY PAXMAN: Unlikely pairings? Not Hermione and Draco Malfoy or anything like that? JK ROWLING: I don't really want to say as it will ruin all the fan sites. They have such fun with their theories ... and it is fun, it is fun. And some of them even get quite close. No-one has ever - I have gone and looked at some of it and no-one's ever ... There is one thing that if anyone guessed I would be really annoyed as it is kind of the heart of it all. And it kind of explains everything and no-one's quite got there but a couple of people have skirted it. So you know, I would be pretty miffed after thirteen or fourteen years of writing the books if someone just came along and said I think this will happen in book seven. Because it is too late, I couldn't divert now, everything has been building up to it, and I've laid all my clues. (emphasis mine)

(In the FULLNESS of Time)

There was a lot of clues that Hermione likes Harry.

Only one clue that Ron liked Hermione. Actually, two.

1.) He got pissed when Hermione chose his hero, Krum, for the Yule Ball instead of himself. IMO, he thought that she was going for fame.

2.)He got her perfume for Christmas in book 5.

But I just somehow know it that Harry and Hermione will be more likely to get together, face it; it just simply makes more sense.

And we know that Ron likes Hermione. Its just who Hermione likes.

Originally posted by dark1365
There was a lot of clues that Hermione likes Harry.

Only one clue that Ron liked Hermione. Actually, two.

1.) He got pissed when Hermione chose his hero, Krum, for the Yule Ball instead of himself. IMO, he thought that she was going for fame.

2.)He got her perfume for Christmas in book 5.

But I just somehow know it that Harry and Hermione will be more likely to get together, face it; it just simply makes more sense.

Actually, it wouldn't make sense. I just don't think Harry and Hermione seem like a real couple. And trust me. there are a lot more clues than just those two. JK Rowling even said after being asked, for i don't know how many times, if Ron likes hermione that she's given a lot of clues and that you should continue reading "Between the lines" on the Ron and Hermione subject. plus, I don't know what you're talking about with there being clues about Harry and Hermione. The ones you guys gave us wouldn't really be considered clues. unless you think getting physical to save a friend's life is considered a clue. Harry and Hermione are considered friends. and even if Ron and Hermione don't get together, She's probably going to end up with some guy other than harry.

Originally posted by angelsflame265
And we know that Ron likes Hermione. Its just who Hermione likes.

Hermione must be, at least, starting to like Ron that way if she gets jealous about Ron's crushes the way she does. and really, neither of them actually know they like eachother yet. Right now, I believe Hermione's going for Krum. At some point, she's probably going to end up realizing that she has feelings for Ron. Same with Ron. but you guys think that Hermione doesn't like Ron that way, which might be what most people think. Everyone knows Ron likes Hermione, But no one knows who Hermione likes, and most people probably thinks she likes some other guy other than Ron. And it might turn out (and you might know this after finding a little more clues about Hermione) that she really is going for Ron.

Here's 'bout 10000 words that disprove your current theories, Rupert-Lover.

What the heck's that supposed to mean. 🤨

Shh......it's coming. 😉
http://www.veritaserum.com/editorials/?view=26

Well, I don't know what it is because the page cannot be displayed.

oh and by the way, remember the rope-a-dope strategy? well, it might seem like Hermione likes Harry, but how do you know that it doesn't just seem that way?

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
Well, I don't know what it is because the page cannot be displayed.

Originally posted by #1Rupert_Lover
oh and by the way, remember the rope-a-dope strategy? well, it might seem like Hermione likes Harry, but how do you know that it doesn't just seem that way?

Originally posted by dark1365
Shh......it's coming. 😉
http://www.veritaserum.com/editorials/?view=26

dark1365 that article was great! I read it and I totally agree. I hope you don't mind, but this was 1 of my favorite parts. Tell me whatcha think.

In the Beginning: "Sorcerer's Stone" (SS/PS)

Scholastic Paperback Edition (SPE), Ch. 13, pp 223 - 224

"'Wonder how long Potter's going to stay on his broom this time? Anyone want a bet? What about you, Weasley?'

Ron didn't answer; Snape had just awarded Hufflepuff a penalty because George Weasley had hit a Bludger at him. Hermione, who had all her fingers crossed in her lap, was squinting fixedly at Harry, who was circling the game like a hawk, looking for the Snitch.

'Longbottom, if brains were gold you'd be poorer than Weasley, and that's saying something.'

Ron's nerves were already stretched to the breaking point with anxiety about Harry.

'I'm warning you, Malfoy - one more word -'

'Ron!' said Hermione suddenly, 'Harry -!'

'What? Where?'

Harry had suddenly gone into a spectacular dive, which drew gasps and cheers from the crowd. Hermione stood up, her crossed fingers in her mouth, as Harry streaked toward the ground like a bullet.

'You're in luck, Weasley, Potter's obviously spotted some money on the ground!' said Malfoy.

Ron snapped. Before Malfoy knew what was happening, Ron was on top of him, wrestling him to the ground. Neville hesitated, then clambered over the back of his seat to help.

'Come on, Harry!' Hermione screamed, leaping onto her seat to watch as Harry sped straight at Snape - she didn't even notice Malfoy and Ron rolling around under her seat, or the scuffles and yelps coming from the whirl of fists that was Neville, Crabbe and Goyle.

'Ron! Ron! Where are you? The game's over! Harry's won! We've won!' shrieked Hermione, dancing up and down on her seat and hugging Parvati Patil in the row in front."

Some might argue, of course, that Snape was refereeing this particular match, and was suspected to be the culprit behind the attempts to steal the Sorcerer's Stone. But Dumbledore himself was already at the match, and therefore, it can be said that any danger posed to Harry by Snape's presence was dramatically reduced by the Headmaster's presence. No one would blame Hermione if her attention wavered from the game for a few minutes at a time - after all, she's no Quidditch fan.

Now here comes Malfoy, who's indulging in his favorite past time: annoying Harry's friends. He's just begun to pick a fight with Ron, but Hermione's attention is riveted on Harry - she doesn't hear a word he's saying. In the wink of an eye, Malfoy ups the ante on his insults, dragging a hapless Neville into the picture, but Hermione's still focused on Harry. Before anyone knows it, a brawl flares up right under her nose, complete with all the sound effects of yells, punches and bodies falling over the seats, but she's still screaming Harry's name. And by the end of the game, she's still unaware that five boys - including her other good friend - have been brawling right beside her. The only thing in her mind is "Harry's won!"

Does anyone get the feeling that the stands would collapse under Hermione and she'd still be staring at Harry?

Now, everyone knows that Hermione's an avid bookworm, and outside of classroom recitation, something of an introvert - some people might even say that she's a touch anti-social, and JKR has gone so far as to say that Hermione has her insecurities. Girls of this disposition aren't likely to display much emotion, especially over a boy, even if the boy happens to be a good friend - they like to keep their feelings to themselves. And yet, here we have Hermione, screaming Harry's name at the top of her lungs in front of dozens of spectators and Harry's sworn enemy, totally oblivious to the free-for-all right under her nose - quite out of character, wouldn't you say?

Thank you Rogue.

I know, when Ron and Malfoy start fighting at her feet, it's just not seemly like Hermione to ignore them completely. She's just too worried about Harry.

Personally one of my favourite parts was her opinion on when Ron and Harry were pissed at each other.

As she said, when she came downstairs, she would have been early, Ron even more so;it seems unevitable that they had a chat. Hermione realised how serious this was.

Now think about it; if Hermione felt more sympathetic towards Ron, she would've stayed with him for a while, trying to soothe him down. And if she was worried about both, she would've done everything in her power to make them friends again. But no, Hermione just grabbed a stack of toast and went straight up towards the common room to meet Harry, she knew that he would have to face the crowd if he came downstairs, and that would've been worse for him.
This obviously draws to the conclusion that she likes Harry, NOT Ron.

ok heres one in their duel in second year if harry really hated draco why on earth send him a tickling charm lol but yup there is a very fine line between love and hate so im a harry/draco shipper 'winks'

A Tickling Charm might've been the first thing on Harry's mind. Or that he wanted to incapcitate Malfoy FIRST, then do something else to finish the duel off nicely.

There's no way those two are getting together, no way. Don't count on it.