Remember, I ain't all full on Hr/R either. I only like it because of Harry/Ginny and want to keep Harry free. You got to let them grow up. In this book, lets hope they don't fight much anymore if they finally realize their feelings. If not, Harry will still be with Ginny, Ron will be with Luna.... Who would Hermoine go with then? Now there is a interesting question. DOn't go on your ship, just if Hermione didn't go with Harry or Ron, who would she go with?
Originally posted by NightCrawler341
Who would Hermoine go with then? Now there is a interesting question. DOn't go on your ship, just if Hermione didn't go with Harry or Ron, who would she go with?
Hm.. I'd actually say No one. I mean, she had krum, but that wasn't really anything, she didnt seem too into it (remember after he saves her from the lake she's too busy talking to harry to pay attention to krum 😉 ) I dont think at this point in the books Hermione has any established relationships with any boys buy harry and ron, so really I can't see her with anybody else. If she's not with harry or ron (cough cough, but really harry) then she'll be one of those carrier people and like be in charge of everything. I can see that actually, having her be the future minister of magic or something. (for a girl is is something other then minister? I have a feeling it is...)
Quotes from GoF (I got bored and found the quotes rereading the book.)
"He's going with Cho Chang"
Ron looked up.
"I asked her to go with me just now," Harry said dully, "and she told me."
Ginny suddenly stopped smilling.
Ok, I think Ginny stopped smiling because she was upset that 1) Harry asked Cho to go with him. 2) She thought Harry was taken and now was upset she was going with Neville and 3.)She wanted to go with Harry now knowing that he is free but can't already bound to Neville.
"Right," said Ron, who looked extremely put out, "this is getting stupid. Ginny, you can go with Harry, and I'll just-"
"I can't," said Ginny, and she went scarlet too. "I'm going with-with Neville. He asked me when Hermione said no, and I thought... well.. I'm not going to be able to go otherwise, I'm not in fourth year." She looked extremely miserable. "I think I'll go have dinner," she said, and she got up and walked off to the portrait hole, her head bowed.
Ok, first, she went read on the thought of going with Harry, she likes him still. Second, she was upset now, when before Harry came she was enjoying herself helping Ron get over Fleur (which is going to be funny to watch in the movie. 😛 ), and that was probably because she now wanted to go with Harry. If only Ginny knew to say no to Neville and waited till this moment so she could have gone with Harry, and then something probably would have happened...
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hey guys, i have a quote too
"Oh," said Ron, his smile fading slightly. "Are you that bad at kissing?"
"Dunno," said Harry, who hadn't considered this, and immediately felt rather worried. "Maybe I am."
"Of course you're not," said Hermione absently, still scribbling away at her letter.
what or who do u think she's thinking
Originally posted by hermione7
hey guys, i have a quote too"Oh," said Ron, his smile fading slightly. "Are you that bad at kissing?"
"Dunno," said Harry, who hadn't considered this, and immediately felt rather worried. "Maybe I am."
[B]"Of course you're not,"
said Hermione absently, still scribbling away at her letter.what or who do u think she's thinking [/B]
Does Harry even notice that? I don't think he did, he never notices anything.....
Originally posted by hermione7
I forgot thats an OOTP quote,aahhh. school again tom.
Wait, whats this? Anyway, the harry/ginny thing: I think with that quote you used Nightcrawler, Ginny turned red because she was embarrased about going with Nevell, or at least that's how I read it. To me Harry and Ginny just doesnt click... I mean everyone had crushes on their older brothers friends when they're 11 and 12. But by the time Ginny actually becomes important in the books she's over harry and moved on to dating a bunch of other people. I think her whole crush thing is in the past, just some little girl thing that we all go through. I think i recall JKR saying something along the lines of "it will make total sense to some people and none to others" about shipping. Thats not a direct quote though, i'm just remembering that now. So as we all know, thats as ambigious as everything she says... hmph... i want book 6!
Dont we all. And, KKDave, that is just how you read it. Personally, I don't see the point of her dating Dean. I don't see that lasting. I am seeing she will end up with Harry. I can't say I had crushes on my older brothers friends because I'm a GUY and when I was that age he had mostly guy friends.... actualy I was the when who had friends that were girls........................ Anyway............... Yea, I gotta go make fun of him now. xD
More quotes from GoF.... though I seriously want to get quotes from OotP but I'm still read GoF
"Hermione," said Ron, looking sideways at her, suddenly frowning, "your teeth...."
"What about them?" she said. (which probably should be asked, not said, but hell, JKR wrote it not me)
Well, they're different... I just noticed...."
"Of course they are- Did you expect me to keep those fangs Malfoy gave me?"
"No, I mean, they're different to how they were before he put that hex on you.... They're all... straight and- and normal-sized."
Hermione suddenly smiled mischievously, and Harry noticed it too: It was a very different smile from the one he remember."
One, Ron noticed before Harry. Two, she smiled because RON noticed, and also to show off her teeth possibly. Three, this proves Harry doesn't notice a god damn thing about anything but his damn life! *Beats Harry across the head* PAY.... ATTENTION!
Originally posted by KKdave
Wait, whats this? Anyway, the harry/ginny thing: I think with that quote you used Nightcrawler, Ginny turned red because she was embarrased about going with Nevell, or at least that's how I read it.
But why did she frown? And I think it is because Ron suggested she go with Harry that she turned red. She had to have frowned because she was upset that she wanted to go with dear sweet old (BRAINLESS) Harry. And was red at the idea, and was rather down about it when leaving because she couldn't go with him because she was going with Neville... and Remember, Ron said for Hermione to go with him to the Yule Ball... I wonder if Hermione picked up on that. And, but of course, both Harry and Ron's heads are in the clouds because this is what Ron said once Ginny left.
"What's got into them?"
Which actually shows that both of them are idiots. O.O
Has anyone noticed I have been really harsh on Harry and Ron lately. Esp. Harry?
Originally posted by NightCrawler341
Which actually shows that both of them are idiots. O.O
Has anyone noticed I have been really harsh on Harry and Ron lately. Esp. Harry?
To be fair, can you blame harry for not noticing every little thing? I think he has a lot more on his mind and a lot more to deal with then Ron. When you are expected to be the savior of the world then I guess your mind has less space to notice every little detail. In GOf harry was fairly preoccupied with the tri-wizard tournament. Even when he was with Cho Chang, the girl he had been wanting for 2 years, in OOTP he was still too busy with other things to really be a good boyfriend. Remember he ditched her for Hermione? So I don't blame Harry for not noticing things, I think he's got a lot on his mind. But personally, I do hope he wakes up a little bit in the girl department, but usually 15 year old boys are pretty clueless.
by gwendy
History Repeats Itself. It's a cliche which, in a lot of cases, even in real life, happens. One such example is the EDSA revolution, which happened twice in the Philippines, successfully bringing down 2 presidents. As for the Harry Potter book series? It happened in the Chamber of Secrets. But there's also one big possibility of James & Lily Potter, repeating in Harry & Hermione.
Yes, I know Lily had long red hair. That's why H/G fans argue that this is how history would repeat itself. But people, let's look further than hair color, now, shall we? Lily has long, red, but wavy hair (as seen in the SS movie). If not for the color, that'd be referring to Hermione. Next is that Lily is the bookish type, sticking faithfully to her study habits. Lupin did stress as to how brilliant and gifted Lily was (ring any bells?). Lily & Hermione's personalities somewhat coincide, being that they both have an air of superiority about them.
James had brown eyes while Lily had green eyes. Harry has green eyes while Hermione has brown eyes. Except for the switch, there's a similarity.
Both James & Lily resided in Gryffindor, as do Harry & Hermione. Rumor has it that James was almost put in Slytherin (since he was pureblood & he had the attitude to go) and Lily, being as smart as she was, was almost put in Ravenclaw. In the first book, the sorting hat was going to put Harry in Slytherin but Harry whispered "Not Slytherin!" and so he was put in Gryffindor. In OOTP, we learn that the sorting hat had wanted to put Hermione in Ravenclaw because of her smarts but it finally decided to put her in Gryffindor.
James was the Gryffindor Seeker in his time...at least, that's what the SS movie tells us (in JK's site, she said James was a chaser...well, she did put a scene in OOTP where James was catching a snitch so it was probably too late to point out the previous fact). At present, Harry is Gryffindor's Seeker. Lily was not in any mentioned sport as well as Hermione. This disputes the H/G claim (as previously stated) since Ginny is a member of the Gryffindor team.
This one was sent in by Centra_gal86. James was a pureblood. Lily was a muggle-born. Harry, though a half-blood, was born to wizard parents, in essence, making him a pureblood. Hermione is a muggle-born, just like Lily. (get the picture?)
This one was sent in by Stephanie. Lily has a sister, who we all know to be Petunia Dursley. Petunia was very jealous of her sister's acceptance into the wizarding world as well as the attention their parents lavished upon her. Just recently, JK has announced her plans of getting a sister for Hermione. Being that this sister was never in any scenes with the Grangers and or Hermione, it is only logical that we assume this sister falls under the same category as Petunia: a jealous sister. If she's not under that category, Hermione still has a sister, still making history repeat itself. However, JK also said it might be a little too late to put in Hermione's supposed sister. Then again, she did make an effort in wanting a sister for Hermione. Guess she thought we have enough clues by now *wink*
James & Lily were both members of the Order of the Phoenix so it is safe to assume that they were both Aurors. In GOF, the fake Mad-Eye Moody commented that Harry & Hermione had the makings of true Aurors (Ron tried to say something smart so Moody would say that he also had the makings of an auror but Moody didn't say anything like that). In OOTP, we learn that Harry wants to be an Auror. No mention has yet been made of Hermione's planned profession. There's a possibility that she would be going for Aurorship, being that the hardest subjects are the ones she enjoys the most. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
This one was sent in by Remy. We all know that Harry's wand is eleven inches, holly with Phoenix feather core enchantment. I was going through your site and I went to the biographies page and I noticed and was reminded of the fact that Hermione's wand type was never mentioned to the readers. I found this sort of odd considering we know Ron's already and a few others as well (ex. Cedric Diggory, whose wand had a unicorn hair core enchantment). After just coming off of reading your theory, this oddity led me to one swift, yet very possible, conclusion as to why this happened. That conclusion would be that Hermione's wand is possibly of the same make and type as Lily's wand. If I remember correctly, Lily's wand was particularly good for charms. Now I know this is a stretch, and isn't confirmed in the least, but it makes sense if you look back all the way to the Sorceror's Stone. We see early on with "Winguardiam Leviosa"(sp) that Hermione was able to do charms quite easily. This is later shown in Goblet of Fire as well I believe when she is showing Harry the "Accio" charm and later shows him the Banishing spell in the same book (or possibly Order of the Phoenix) with relative ease. I think the same is true when Hermione learns the Switching spell. In OOTP, Hermione also put the "Protean" charm on the fake Galleons which was N.E.W.T. level. Of course this could all just be Hermione's amazing intellect picking up on things but who is to say she doesn't have a little help in this particular field as well? Some wands are just better suited to do certain things than others. Now this is just pure speculation, and I'm not sure if JKR has ever mentioned whether Hermione's wand type is even important, but its a pretty interesting possibility, considering JKR has kept that information hidden from us (which could definitely mean she is hiding something important) and if what I have said above is true, it would add one more coincidence in the comparison of Lily to Hermione. I hope you can understand my ramblings and maybe see what I am getting at. 🙂 I've heard this sort of a theory as a Harry and Ginny argument as well but the evidence you showed made me think it shows even more promise as a Harry and Hermione argument rather than a Harry and Ginny argument. 🙂 Thanks for the input, Remy!
For additional insight on the possible connection on Harry & Hermione's wands, you can try and look into the Wand Connection Theory by Lilflipper247.
Here's another detail I just recently noticed after watching PoA again, as well as reading a few snippets off the book (on the net. I don't have HP books of my own. I can't afford them). Well...when Lupin described Lily to Harry, he did it with such wistfulness and passion that it got me to thinking that at some point during his Hogwarts days, he might've been in love with Lily. I'm not trying to make enemies here, but try watching the movie again. Here. I've quoted what Lupin said from the movie: "The very first time I saw you, Harry, I recognized you immediately. Not by your scar; by your eyes. They're your mother, Lily's. Yes...oh, yes. I knew her. Your mother was there for me at a time when no one else was. Not only was she a singularly gifted witch, she was also an uncommonly kind woman. She had a way of seeing the beauty of others most especially when that person could not see it himself." Of all of James features which are clearly shown on Harry's face, Lupin had to recognize Harry immediately by his green eyes...Lily's eyes. So where am I exactly getting at after mentioning Lupin's possible past liking for Lily? Lupin, as we all know, is one of James's best friends. If it's possible that he had once been in love with Lily, then this is where we see a repeat in history to Harry's best friend, Ron. But of course, it was James and Lily who ended up together and hopefully, that will be true for Harry and Hermione as well.
People who don't support H/Hr may scoff at the above theories, labeling these as freakish coincidences but there's something that holds all of the above statements together: the time travel devices. Remember that the title of this theory is History Repeats Itself. So far, only two people in the HP book series have been seen traveling back through time both together and separately, thereby, repeating history: Harry & Hermione of course!!!
Hermione used the Time Turner to travel back in time and attend all of her classes. In the end of PoA, both she and Harry get to use the Time Turner to travel back in time and save Sirius.
Another significance of the Time Turner, is the fact that Hermione had to put the necklace around Harry's neck as well as her own in order for them to travel back in time together. What does that remind me of? Weddings! Why? Remember that part of the ceremony is to put a chord around the necks of the bride and groom and it symbolizes the bond between the newlyweds. Plus, it symbolizes eternity because it goes round and round over and over again. Get my drift? Time and eternity?
Harry was sucked into Tom Riddle's diary, in turn, making him travel back 50 years into the past. He's also been inside the pensieve twice. The pensieve contained memories of the past and in essence, also made Harry travel back in time.
The Fountain of Magical Brethren Theory By: Gwendy
In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, we have our first time view of the Ministry of Magic. In it, there was the Fountain of Magical Brethren, a huge collection of golden statues and I quote:
"Halfway down the hall was a fountain. A group of golden statues, larger than life-size, stood in the middle of a circular pool. Tallest of them all was a noble-looking wizard with his wand pointing straight up in the air. Grouped around him were a beautiful witch, a centaur, a goblin and a house-elf. The last three were all looking adoringly up at the witch and wizard."
In the end, due to Dumbledore's doing, the statues came to life and aided in protecting Harry as well as defeating some Death Eaters. The statues of the handsome witch and the beautiful wizard, I believe, can represent Harry & Hermione. Harry, because the statue of the wizard came to protect him. The beautiful witch could and can be associated with any other witch other than Hermione but I believe it leans strongly towards her. Why? Remember that grouped with the witch and wizard were a centaur, a house-elf and a goblin. The couple associated with these magical creatures are Harry & Hermione.
In Sorcerer's Stone, Harry rode on Firenze and met with the other centaurs. In the fifth book, Harry & Hermione met with the centaurs (who unwittingly saved their lives and later, endangered them) in the Dark Forest. In Chamber of Secrets, Harry's life was saved (or put in danger) by Dobby, the house elf, who in the end, helped Harry a great deal. Hermione is very determined in caring for the plight of these "poorly treated" creatures, trying in vain to free all of them. She even went as far as making a mini-club of her own, the S.P.E.W. (Society for the Promotion of Elfish Welfare). As for goblins, Harry has been in Gringgots bank were he was surrounded by goblins. And if I remember correctly, Hermione is particularly good with charms and their charms teacher, Professor Flitwick, is I think....a goblin. If I'm wrong, please feel free to correct me and send me some detail on how Hermione is associated with the goblins. Or perhaps, she is yet to be associated with them. And here's another quote: