The Official Shipping Debate Thread [merged]

Started by pumpkinpie4ever191 pages

well, i know the question isnt 4 me but the reason its logical to me and most of us is because hermione and harry really have a great relationship, not just friendship it seems. hermione she seems to get alittle upset if you will, when he kissed cho on the other hand ron was having a great time too, but it seems akward to be upset in hermiones position....give or take i think what JK was hinting there is that harry will truly see how much he cares for hermione....not in a sense we would belive to be friendship either. Hemrione as i can tell really likes him and cares for him dearly. shes risked not only her shcool carrer but her life in situations such as like in the first book (but i dont think she liked him like that...) and the DoM. and i know some of you out there think im thick for supporting them but its okay i wouldnt care if someone did.... oh, and katie thanx for the back up with the GoF thing and backing me up for most of it sry i havent been here the past few days had some work to do....well~G2G~pp4ever

The question is to everyone.

Originally posted by KKdave
I'm just re-posting that, hermione7 posted it on page 140 something, and I trust her sources. I remember reading all of those quotes at one time or another, but I don't have the time or energy to go find all of those sources just to convince you. If you don't trust us then that's your deal.

Id trust you if it was true. But the facts say, i.e. the entire World Book Day transcript, that it isn't true. Evidently someone has tampered with that poster and added things JK never said, at least not at that Book Day.

I think R/Hr is logical just cause Harry never shows the tiniest little bit of interest in Hermy romantically, whereas Hermy and Ron hav both shown romantic interest in each other (albiet clumsily!)

Hermy has basically told Ron he should have asked her out, and Ron gets all jealous over Krum, whereas Harry doesn't seem to give a beep! 😄

Originally posted by Phoenix
I think R/Hr is logical just cause Harry never shows the tiniest little bit of interest in Hermy romantically, whereas Hermy and Ron hav both shown romantic interest in each other (albiet clumsily!)

Hermy has basically told Ron he should have asked her out, and Ron gets all jealous over Krum, whereas Harry doesn't seem to give a beep! 😄


Exactly!

Originally posted by Phoenix
I think R/Hr is logical just cause Harry never shows the tiniest little bit of interest in Hermy romantically, whereas Hermy and Ron hav both shown romantic interest in each other (albiet clumsily!)

Hermy has basically told Ron he should have asked her out, and Ron gets all jealous over Krum, whereas Harry doesn't seem to give a beep! 😄


well maybe not yet! i belive that the evidence is true i trust my friends... and the sun, pheonix that isnt love thats bickering, some ppl say that you bicker like that when you like someone...WHEN YOUR 11
last time i cheacked they were 15 years old. i know lots and lots of ppl and they only did that when they were younger than the age of 12 and even when i was 11 i didnt do that! and again eveyone in the GoF is in love with the wrong person....the reason he doesnt care then is because he was caught up in cho chang! phew! alright im done

~g2g~ pp4ever

Yep, I agree of course. From day one of reading book one I've thought Harry and Hermione are going to end up together, there wasn't even a question in my mind about it. Why? Hermione is the main girl in Harry's life, always has been and always will be. I've said this a million times but it seems like people either aren't listening or aren't understanding what I'm saying, so I'll say it again.
By making Harry and Hermione have other romantic interests in books 4 and 5 JKR has shown us that they can't be with anyone but each other. Hermione with Krum in book 4: after Krum saves her from the lake she's too busy congratulating Harry and talking to him to notice Krum; this famous, studly guy who likes her. Krum later tells Harry that Hermione speaks of him all the time, and feels threatened by Harry and Hermione's close relationship.
In book 5 Harry finally gets what he wanted for 2 years, a date with Cho Chang. Yet when he finally gets a chance to take her on a date, he cuts it short to go meet Hermione. Harry doesn't question Hermione's wanting to meet him, he agrees and leaves Cho to go meet her (even though Cho was invited, she was so jealous of Hermione at this point she couldn't stand to be there). Then again when Cho and Harry are fighting over the DA's coin things, Cho says that it was a bed trick of Hermione's, while Harry defends her, saying that he thought it was brilliant. Then of course Cho gets all angry and jealous again. So even in the face of this "dream girl" harry still thinks of Hermione above all other girls, and being fair to Cho it's not easy being second best to your boyfriends best friend (who happens to be a girl).
I believe it was JKR's purpose to show us through these two situations that Harry and Hermione could be with no one else but each other, because their boyfriends or girlfriends would always be second best. They think of eachother above all others. A relationship, as JKR shows us, won't work while harry and hermione remain as close as they are as of now, and I think they are bound to get closer after the events of the Department of Mysteries. El Fin 😄

Originally posted by Phoenix
I think R/Hr is logical just cause Harry never shows the tiniest little bit of interest in Hermy romantically, whereas Hermy and Ron hav both shown romantic interest in each other (albiet clumsily!)

Hermy has basically told Ron he should have asked her out, and Ron gets all jealous over Krum, whereas Harry doesn't seem to give a beep! 😄


I know. Because he has his head in the clouds at that time, he likes Cho.

But maybe, maybe in the last two books he'll come to realise that looks aren't everything. That he wants someone who he can be happy with(who said that he needs someone who he can be happy with?it was either ron or Hermione, I can't remember). He's probably starting to realise this near the end of the fifth book.

Originally posted by dark1365
(who said that he needs someone who he can be happy with?it was either ron or Hermione, I can't remember). He's probably starting to realise this near the end of the fifth book.

Ron said that he should chose someone more chearful, since Cho was always crying or angry all the time. I agree that Harry's attitude towards relationships is going to change in the last 2 books. He's growing up and I think he's finally going to realize how great hermione is.

Originally posted by KKdave
Yep, I agree of course. From day one of reading book one I've thought Harry and Hermione are going to end up together, there wasn't even a question in my mind about it. Why? Hermione is the main girl in Harry's life, always has been and always will be. I've said this a million times but it seems like people either aren't listening or aren't understanding what I'm saying, so I'll say it again.
By making Harry and Hermione have other romantic interests in books 4 and 5 JKR has shown us that they can't be with anyone but each other. Hermione with Krum in book 4: after Krum saves her from the lake she's too busy congratulating Harry and talking to him to notice Krum; this famous, studly guy who likes her. Krum later tells Harry that Hermione speaks of him all the time, and feels threatened by Harry and Hermione's close relationship.
In book 5 Harry finally gets what he wanted for 2 years, a date with Cho Chang. Yet when he finally gets a chance to take her on a date, he cuts it short to go meet Hermione. Harry doesn't question Hermione's wanting to meet him, he agrees and leaves Cho to go meet her (even though Cho was invited, she was so jealous of Hermione at this point she couldn't stand to be there). Then again when Cho and Harry are fighting over the DA's coin things, Cho says that it was a bed trick of Hermione's, while Harry defends her, saying that he thought it was brilliant. Then of course Cho gets all angry and jealous again. So even in the face of this "dream girl" harry still thinks of Hermione above all other girls, and being fair to Cho it's not easy being second best to your boyfriends best friend (who happens to be a girl).
I believe it was JKR's purpose to show us through these two situations that Harry and Hermione could be with no one else but each other, because their boyfriends or girlfriends would always be second best. They think of eachother above all others. A relationship, as JKR shows us, won't work while harry and hermione remain as close as they are as of now, and I think they are bound to get closer after the events of the Department of Mysteries. El Fin 😄

I understand exactly what your saying. It's not that we don't listen, it's just that you're wrong.

The Sun, do you have to be so bluntly rude? I dont understand why you are so rude to everyone, please be mroe polite because when you say negative things it brings down everyone else. The last thing the world needs is more negativity.
Now you always say you disagree with everyone, but you never back up your opinion. Why am I wrong?

Originally posted by KKdave
The Sun, do you have to be so bluntly rude? I dont understand why you are so rude to everyone, please be mroe polite because when you say negative things it brings down everyone else. The last thing the world needs is more negativity.
Now you always say you disagree with everyone, but you never back up your opinion. Why am I wrong?

I'm not being rude, you were being presumptious, i.e. either you didn't hear me or you didn't understand me. Not like you could be wrong or anything... Ive backed up my opinion many times on this thread, if you went back and read it perhaps you would realise there are two sides at least to this debate.

TS knock it off. If others say that you're rude, you are. Let others do the judging, okay?

I try and start one simple conversation and once again TheSun finds away to make everyone fight. *sigh.*

Anywho, I'mma talk about Harry and Ginny and why I think them that go together(and remember TheSun, the question was what YOU think, not what is right and what is wrong because we don't know that yet. Maybe I should stop asking simple stuff, maybe bigger stuff will shut you up... wait... I have been asking that stuff!). Ok, uno, Ginny was in all the books, even the first, and has made few appearances in third(though not that much) and why would she be in the first? What is important about her? She seems to fanci Harry right off the back. I think JKR is trying to lead us to the two together. Second, they both have a bit of Voldemort in them. Harry through his scare, and Ginny through Tom Riddles Diary where he but a bit of him in her. Third, both are the only two who survived Voldemort and understand each other more than the others. As it says in my sig, "He was the Boy Who Lived, She was the Girl Who Survived". I know there is more I can think of, which I will get to later, but i'm half asleep now. Lets see... she hasn't made much of a appearance in the third book so I can't use much in that. The fourth we have seen signs of them together (It doesn't matter about the quote, "Everyone is with the wrong person" because Ginny was with Harry, though I bet she wanted to be, she was with Neville. Fifth book I am still rereading so I will get back to you guys on that once I am done rereading it.

REMEMBER PEOPLE, THIS IS WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK, NOT WHAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG! RESPECT OTHER PEOPLES THOUGHTS!

night, really no one knows how ginny and harry respond to each other they hardly ever have an actual conversation like...how was your day, or something. the only conversations ive heard so far are Quidditch, Whos going out with who, help with stuff... not an actual conversation. sure they make communication but the dont understand each other without words either that JK's told you something we dont know(sry if i seem alittle on edge this weekend its the red month just warning you all now.) ive read and re-read the books and ive never seen anything hinting that although ron is hinting that harry should go out with ginny either means he doesnt want to have harry dating hermione because he fancies her or he just trusts harry more than anyone else. no one really knows how harry and ginny react in the books they're hardlyaround each other except the 5th book with dumbledors army.

and thnx katie knew you'd back me up and to everyone out there if TS says something about being wrong...dont worry about it no ones right or wrong just have some fun!

Haha thanks Steph! And thanks to Dark too, when dealing with people like TheSun I think reinforcements are a must. In my opinion I havent seen a lot of interactions that would make me think harry and ginny have any kind of connection, or deeper relationship, then her being rons little sister and thereby associated with their group of friends. I think ginny is becoming more important to the books, but I still don't think she'd be able to pass hermione up as the most important girl.

Originally posted by dark1365
TS knock it off. If others say that you're rude, you are. Let others do the judging, okay?

So everyone can judge except me? That sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

Originally posted by NightCrawler341
Second, they both have a bit of Voldemort in them. Harry through his scare, and Ginny through Tom Riddles Diary where he but a bit of him in her.

Two corrections. One, scar, not scare. Two, put, not but. Sorry people I was half asleep last night.

Originally posted by TheSun
So everyone can judge except me? That sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

He meant don't judge yourself because you are wrong about it, it seems. Your rude, we got that, and you say your not. Well, if your rude to other people you are pretty much rude, no matter what you say against it.

Originally posted by NightCrawler341
The fourth we have seen signs of them together (It doesn't matter about the quote, "Everyone is with the wrong person" because Ginny was with Harry, though I bet she wanted to be, she was with Neville.

Wasn't with Harry, not was with Harry. Sorry again.