so he can be knock out i don't mean for like a min or something more like 30 min K.O (longer period of time). Cuz i have never seen Jugs go down for long , yes people did kick his ass but i never see him getting K.O.
that's why i think he has slight advantage even tho hulk will be getting a lot more hits
Originally posted by Tough Guy
tron if it were real life my point is a being with limitless strength would eventually get strong enough to undertake any physical feat including hurting those protected against physical harm by magic. magic is no use if a more powerful force comes into the reckoning
And my point is that it's a bad analogy to try to compare fantasy characters to real life, it does nothing to help your argument.
And Link was right, Juggernaut threw the gem into space around the end of Marvel Team-Up #150.
Oh, and for those that wanna get a clue on just how powerful Cyttorak is, I suggest looking up Dr. Strange: Sorceror Supreme #49.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Technicalities, sigh...
Here's another analogy, If I am immune to electricity, not only will I not be electrocuted, I will not feel it.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
Onslaught also physically (there was blood) ripped out the gem of Cytorrak from Juggernaut's chest even though the real gem doesn't rest inside Jugg's body.consistancy rules
That's what I completely assumed. Considering the fact that the only way he would have known where to find Juggernaut was by telepathically searching for him.
And since Jugg's ended up in the mansion when he was supposed to be well underneath it....I think it's safe to assume the whole thing went on in his head.
I have a question...what issue does Onslaught smack Jugg's across the US?
I might have it and not even remember...stupid stoner memory! *shakes fist in air*
Originally posted by Linkalicious
Onslaught also physically (there was blood) ripped out the gem of Cytorrak from Juggernaut's chest even though the real gem doesn't rest inside Jugg's body.consistancy rules
You forgot to mention the part where Onslaught said he couldn't hurt him while connected to his powers also.
Magneto can feel the energy of electricity, not the pain of electric shock.
Magneto isn't immune to electricity, either. If he was he couldn't absorb or conduct it.
Throughout every Marvel Encyclopedia and/or profile, Juggernaut is never said to be "immune to physical damage" or "invincible." He is said to have an "extraordinary resistance to physical injury." He can be hurt.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
He removed Juggernaut's helmet. Professor Hulk has the combined power of Human Torch and Angel, both from the 60's. Real impressive.
Didn't see the part of the picture in which Juggernaut is reeling, eyes closed, obviously in pain.
Professor Hulk does not have the power of The Human Torch or Angel (where did you get that from?) The Professor Hulk is only Bruce's psyche in Hulk's body, without the whole "madder = stronger" deal. Are you referring to the X-Men's Angel or the Avenging Angel? Neither are very powerful.
Hulk didn't have any enhancements when he flung Juggernaut several miles into a mountain, did he?
Doctor Octopus doesn't have adamantium claws, Linkaliscious, and the one time they fought "Mr. Fixit" Hulk (another of the weaker Hulks) defeated Doctor Octopus with one finger.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Professor Hulk does not have the power of The Human Torch or Angel (where did you get that from?) The Professor Hulk is only Bruce's psyche in Hulk's body, without the whole "madder = stronger" deal. Are you referring to the X-Men's Angel or the Avenging Angel? Neither are very powerful.
He was using his Swank-logic. Apparantly it went right over your head, lol.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Hulk didn't have any enhancements when he flung Juggernaut several miles into a mountain, did he?
That wasn't several miles, it was a 1/4 mile at the most. You're overexaggerating.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Doctor Octopus doesn't have adamantium claws, Linkaliscious, and the one time they fought "Mr. Fixit" Hulk (another of the weaker Hulks) defeated Doctor Octopus with one finger.
There was a time when Doc Ock did have adamantium, that's what they were referring to.
And Cube, that pic you posted is a fan-pic, never took place in any comic.
I'm sorry, It was only a fourth of a mile. I didn't know the exact distance, I only knew that it was pretty damn far. I'm not exaggerating, they did not specify a distance. I may have assumed, but I did not exaggerate. Regardless, he was thrown into a mountain.
I figured it may have been a fan pic. It isn't a great drawing.
Swank-logic? I guess it did go over my head... Could you elaborate for me?
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Didn't see the part of the picture in which Juggernaut is reeling, eyes closed, obviously in pain.
Professor Hulk does not have the power of The Human Torch or Angel (where did you get that from?) The Professor Hulk is only Bruce's psyche in Hulk's body, without the whole "madder = stronger" deal. Are you referring to the X-Men's Angel or the Avenging Angel? Neither are very powerful.
Hulk didn't have any enhancements when he flung Juggernaut several miles into a mountain, did he?
I've seen that page and I frankly don't know how he managed to spin Juggernaut like that. His fingers were in the eye holes. It's like his wrist was a spinning tie rack.
He isn't flinching, he has just suffered a blow and he is reeling. Angel and the old Human Torch couldn't have knocked Juggernaut's head backwards like that, or cause him to winch in pain.
This is going so far off topic... If Juggernaut knows he's invincible, why would he flinch?
The celestial armor increases War Hulk's durability, not his strength. War Hulk isn't the one that flung Juggernaut into a mountain, It was Savage Hulk in issue 172.
Juggernaut was on Hulk's back, and while lying on his stomach, Hulk reached back, grabbed him by the helmet, swung him around, and flung him into a mountain.