Juggernaut or The Hulk?

You sound ridiculous, savagerampage. You can't exceed level seven. Level 7 is anywhere between 100 tons and infinity. The blast didn't separate Hulk from Banner, Jean Grey did. Pick up a comic book and get a clue.

Originally posted by savagerampage
he cannot summon the full power of cytorrak, only a certain amount just like juggernaut . they do not have cytorraks full abilitys

Dr. Strange has full command of any form of magic. He can summon the full power of Cyttorak. Juggernaut is nowhere near as powerful as Dr. Strange.

Jean grey only shut off Hulks human side. so he can turn hulk into savage hulk. the blast is what separeted them i have the issue right in my hand dude

I'm tired of arguing ignorance. Juggernaut isn't immune to physical damage, he's resistant. Any comic book expert would agree that Hulk would defeat Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
A blast of mental energy (such as telekinesis) that affects the physical world (such as knocking Juggernaut hundreds of miles,) would be regarded as physical.

Dr. Strange, the most powerful sorcerer in the universe, could easily summon the full power of cytorrak to bind Hulk. His magical abilities have no limitations.

She didn't turn him into Savage Hulk, regular Hulk is Savage Hulk. She turned him into Mindless Hulk by shutting down Banner's personality, removing him.

she separated him mentally not physically she made him mindless,she did not forceable remove banner from hulk.

I'm going to beat Cosmic Cube the same way Hulk "beat" Juggernaut in The Incredible Hulk #172. By leaving before he can respond.

If that was the case then Jean Grey could have easily seperated xavier, from Onslaught then. Jean grey does not have that kind of power.
Banner is Hulk, how on earth could she make a man outta the monster when the monster is the man

Creating universes isn't such an astounding feat anymore, Franklin Richards can do it. Strange is more powerful than Cytorrak. He has all the power of the Vishanti, The Watoomb, Agamotto, ect. He doesn't need Cytorrak. Telepathy, one of Juggernaut's weaknesses, does not affect the physical world.

strange isnt more powerful then cytorrak, if that was the cause then why on earth did Strange need juggernauts help. strange comes no where close to cytorrak

You are making absolutely no sense. Any powerful telepath can turn Hulk into Banner, or shut down his consciousness. They did separate Xavier and Onslaught. Geez, what do you know? Onslaught is infinitely more powerful than Jean. How could she telepathically affect him? Why would it be hard for her to separate Bruce and Hulk? Stop asking me questions and buy the comic. It's irritating.

When did Strange need Juggernaut's help?

I have it in my hand onslaught marvel universe. here is the actual dialouge

hulk"you have to enter my brain telepathically and turn off banner, shut him down."
jean"your human side i cant
hulk" MY CONTROL SIDE and you have to. its the only way.

hulk then turns mindless and fights onslaught, they fight and onslaughts armor is cracked.
Captain America" look the settling dust thor"
theres hulk and beneath him:
quicksilver" BANNER BUT HOW"

get ur facts straight jean grey DID NOT PHYSICALLY REMOVE BANNER FROM THE HULK!

Dr.strange 182 he helps him fight nightmare! who defeated strange! and juggernaut defeated nightmare

here is alittle something on the rivalry between the 2
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Neptune/7060/Crimson_Cosmos/enemies.html

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
When did Strange need Juggernaut's help?

Sometime later, the Juggernaut found himself summoned to a familiar place – the Crimson Cosmos inside the gem. Dr. Strange and Nova had become trapped there and needed Cain’s help in getting free. Cain didn’t like being at this unpleasant place a second time and heavily argued with Strange, but eventually he agreed that their only way out was to find Cyttorak and request their release.

here is more on strange 182
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=96&page=3

"while Dr. Strange engulfed the Juggernaut in magical bonds. Having enough of all three of them, Cyttorak sent them back to where they came from. [Dr. Strange (3rd series) #44]"

Strange stronger then cytorrak i think not

http://www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htm

Juggernaut didn't even make the to 10 superhero list.

Nightmare wouldn't defeat Strange now. Back then, Strange didn't have the power he now does. That was before the Defenders.

Looks like strange has beaten the hulk, but has strange ever defeated the juggernaut! instead of beating him he sure asks for his help alot!
if juggernaut almost killed strange and strange can easily beat hulk!
then what does that say about the juggernaut,hulk fight?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
http://www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htm

Juggernaut didn't even make the to 10 superhero list.

Nightmare wouldn't defeat Strange now. Back then, Strange didn't have the power he now does. That was before the Defenders.

Cause he's not a hero, pointless to bring that up.

Man, there's too much to try to comment on (after being gone only a couple of hours), but I will comment on one thing. The whole Onslaught-Juggernaut-helmet thing, is irrelevant. The writers of that saga completely left out or completely forgot that Juggernaut's helmet blocks psionic, which in addition to what Swank mentioned, Psylocke wa also able to use her powers on Juggernaut twice, WHILE he was wearing his helmet.

And again, for those that want to figure out just how powerful Cyttorak is, check out Dr. Strange: Sorceror Supreme #49.

And for those that choose to rely on Marvel's scoring system (thinking Wolverine is stronger than Spider-Man), I believe Swank has a good little analogy on that involving Mary Jane.😉