Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Swanky-Tuna486 pages

I'm serious, hurry up.

No, it would not affect his mind. I do not care how Juggernaut got there, whether it was physical or not. It's the state he arrived in that I've been debating.

Is there any proof of mental blocks? How would Juggernaut know Onslaught was Xavier? He didn't witness the transformation, and he has no other means of discovering Onslaught's identity.

Jean Grey can lift and toss a truck with her power.So a blast from Someone as powerful as Onslaught could easily launch juggs

I agree doc ock beating any version of the hulk is horrible writing
though the thor issue with juggernaut was well written and truly showcased both characters powers. Thor the all powerful norse god and
juggernaut the unstoppable menace.

I'm sorry, when was Juggernaut forced to will away his power before?

Savagerampage, Onslaught doesn't have telekinesis, or the ability to fire psi-blasts. He can fire a telepathic "mental bolt" that can only affect the mind.

Onslaught has telekenisis he did a whole bunch of crap with it over the Onslaught saga. here is his powers

Powers and Abilities:
exists as pure psionic energy shaped into a powerful psi-armor with enormous strength, endurance, reflexes and invulnerability, telepathy, psychokinesis, manipulate electromagnetic forces, alter the fabric of reality to suit his whims

he fired a psi blast on dark beast, and used a bunch of it in x-men😮nslaught

Actually the Marvel Encyclopedia says "Onslaught has the combined powers of Professor Xavier and Magneto" Onslaught does gain telekinesis, but only after absorbing Cable. When he attacked Juggernaut, he didn't have telekinesis. Even if he did have telekinesis, if Onslaught used telekinesis on Juggernaut it wouldn't knock out Juggernaut if he's immune to physical damage. His only weakness is his mind, remember? Telekinesis doesn't affect the mind.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Is there any proof of mental blocks? How would Juggernaut know Onslaught was Xavier?
I thought the fact that he needed Jean to uncover that information made it clear.
He didn't witness the transformation, and he has no other means of discovering Onslaught's identity.
For whatever reason, he knew. I do not have the moolah to go backordering every comic I'm being questioned on.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I'm sorry, when was Juggernaut forced to will away his power before?
There are many facets of the Juggernaut powers that can be controlled but Cain can't due to not practicing them. Someone as omnipotent as Onslaught would have much more control over them knowing as much about Juggernaut as Xavier does.

Onslaught did fire a psi blast at Dark beast, but he couldn't have done that to Juggernaut when he first attacked him. He didn't gain the ability to fire psi blasts until he absorbed Cable.

Juggernaut clearly says that Onslaught "punched" him from Canada. You said that Juggernaut was forced to will away his power before. When?

Powers: Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of progenitors Professor X and Magneto. He could induce illusions, temporary mental or physical paralysis, loss of specific memories, or total amnesia; project mind-numbing mental bolts; and sense the presence of mutants within a small radius. Also, Onslaught was able to shape and manipulate magnetic fields, both natural and artificial. Using his powers to augment his strength, he could lift up to 100 tons. Other abilities included telekinesis and astral projection.

i was looking back at that issue. juggernaut landed in new jersey he was
out cold when he landed.Within a few minutes he was up again. He
was also showing signs of confusion fear, he didnt Know what was going
on or where he was.

Just from that u could assume a blast from Onslaught whos like a god
could have knocked juggernaut out with a psi blast and simply launched
him.He was unconsious when he landed,but he was up and about in minutes.And the only way to Knock juggs unconsious is with psi power,
and onslaught had tons of that

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Juggernaut clearly says that Onslaught "punched" him from Canada. You said that Juggernaut was forced to will away his power before. When?
Yeah, when did I say that? *ching ching ching* Warcraft time!

Actually what juggs says is
"That aint possible im the juggernaut he couldnt have hurled me across
an entire country"

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Then let's speed it up to where I say Onslaught forced Cain to will his powers away again. I'm getting the Warcraft bug.

You said "again," implying that it had happened before.

savagerampage, Juggernaut specifically says he was "punched." A punch isn't a telepathic attack. He wasn't "hurled across the country," he was punched from Canada to New Jersey.

Juggs body was fine. He still took tons of punishment. he could have kept fighting but he was in completly disoriented. Signs of a psi-blast

cosmicube he says he got hurled i have the issue in my hand

Maybe you should look at the picture again. Here it is.

I see it juggernaut is unconsious there. he is out cold. he isnt anything
trusted me he doesnt say "punched"

Regardless, what is "hurled." A punch could "hurl" him. Being hurled is not a telepathic attack. Only telepathic attacks hurt Juggernaut. Remember, his mind is his only weak point?

Don't you see the tattered costume?

Hurl is more of a throw. Onslaught could have used a tele kEnetic attack
and "hurled" juggernaut with it. jean can hurl trucks with her mind.
iam looking at the issue and juggs body is fine.he is unconsious and the only way to do that to him is by psi power