Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Juggernaut is unstoppable, "Once he begins walking in a certain dirrection, NO power on EARTH can stand in his way".

I believe sombody told me not to argue with marvel.com well heres the same thing. I brought up "War" because it wasnt hulk, his power wasnt from earth (thats why he stopped juggernaut genius) =P

Juggernaut is far beyond hulks duribility, if you disagree your a fool. I gather that from Thor vs juggernaut (he took the godforce) which is more than hulk can say being knocked out by one of Thor's lighting bolts. 😆

All these fights took place in a hulk comic, you really think the writer wrote that without being bias towards hulk? Its his book he has to think of a way for juggernaut to lose, and juggernaut didnt say "ouch" or "ahh" its just the sound of air being forced out of his lungs (he doesnt have to breath but he talks so he sorta has too)

Why couldnt hulk knock the air out of him? He is still made of flesh and bone. None of it can be hurt or broken but its still there.(unless a magical weapon) Hulk own writer even says that hulk could not physically hurt juggernaut. (thats why he put in the phycic backlash)

Hope that clears something up for some of you non believers 😉

lata

that was probably one of the most intelligent posts in this thread. It does clear alot. hey if the hulk writer admitted that hulk couldnt physically hurt juggernaut, then my friends this discusion is over! hulk loses

Originally posted by talon00x
and juggernaut didnt say "ouch" or "ahh" its just the sound of air being forced out of his lungs (he doesnt have to breath but he talks so he sorta has too)

Hahaha. Yeah.

Take a deep breath Cain.

Cain: *ssssssss......ouuuuch*

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Juggernaut isn't unstoppable, if you still think he is then you're dumb. End of story.

-AC

* alpha shut up jut cos u cant understand my simple point u claim it as bullshit, ha ha how childish, oh how i mock u. war mullered juggie thats also not bullshit my simple 1 celled amoiba.
* juggies character is one of very high durability, no one with any intelligence here has disregarded this, or that his magic allows him forward momentum without interuption from physical force. where hulk s argument comes from is simply his physical power is limitless and therefore would logically end up beyond cyttoraks ability to protect juggie. also hulk would heal almost instantly as his healing quickens a s he gets madder. so how juggie would hurt him either is as hard to figure as you claiming how hulk would harm juggie. the difference is its within hulks characterto overcome foes such as juggie, do the impossible etc, hence why im going with hulk in an all out fight, juggie would have to use cunning , which i dont think he has much of. hulk is stronger and limitless power wise than juggie, who has ( like ive stated many times before) to hope his magic durability can hold out over hulks ever increasing physical power, which as we know would be relentless.

Thing is, they're practically identical except where Hulk has the strength advantage, Juggernaut has the durability advantage.

swank my tuna friend i agree...so in essence..this fight is dumb?

Essentially. I suppose there's a reason why they always get interrupted when they fight.

The reason would be that neither could beat the other.
only if marvel sticks to the "unstoppable" thing.

Isn't it rather funny how Tough Guy thinks he's made any difference in this thread.

-AC

just a thought guys, what would happen if hulk holds the gem of the cyttorak, what will he become, will he become the incredible juggernaut

Hulk already pretty tough as he is...abomination this dude aint no pushover...but juggy would give Hulk one hell of a fight.

Originally posted by talon00x
Juggernaut is unstoppable, "Once he begins walking in a certain dirrection, NO power on EARTH can stand in his way".

I believe sombody told me not to argue with marvel.com well heres the same thing. I brought up "War" because it wasnt hulk, his power wasnt from earth (thats why he stopped juggernaut genius) =P

Juggernaut is far beyond hulks duribility, if you disagree your a fool. I gather that from Thor vs juggernaut (he took the godforce) which is more than hulk can say being knocked out by one of Thor's lighting bolts. 😆

All these fights took place in a hulk comic, you really think the writer wrote that without being bias towards hulk? Its his book he has to think of a way for juggernaut to lose, and juggernaut didnt say "ouch" or "ahh" its just the sound of air being forced out of his lungs (he doesnt have to breath but he talks so he sorta has too)

Why couldnt hulk knock the air out of him? He is still made of flesh and bone. None of it can be hurt or broken but its still there.(unless a magical weapon) Hulk own writer even says that hulk could not physically hurt juggernaut. (thats why he put in the phycic backlash)

Hope that clears something up for some of you non believers 😉

lata

Actually, in Hulk 404, Juggernaut is on the floor, knocked out BEFORE tha backlash hits. Read it for yourself, or ask anyone who has the issue.
Juggernaout has been proven on more than one occasion to be "stoppable" and "vulnerable". Hulk has never been proven unable to lift anything, no matter what his state of mind, save Mjolnir, whose enchantment (by Odin) prevents it from being lifted by anyone unworthy of wielding it, regardless of thier strength.

It seems that talon00x and savagerampage are the only people in this thread who still believe Juggernaut cannot be hurt. Having the wind knocked out of you hurts. If Juggernaut cannot be hurt, why is he doubled over in pain? Why is he expressing pain on his face? If he is not feeling Hulk's punch, why is he exclaiming "UUUNNFF!!!" (instead of casually sighing, "ooof..."😉 Juggernaut can obviously be hurt. We have proven it. If you still don't believe it, it is simply because you do not want to believe it.

Juggernaut and Hulk are equally as durable. They are both level 7. "Don't argue with marvel.com." Juggernaut has withstood the Godforce, but when has Thor ever knocked out Hulk with a lightning bolt? I've seen Hulk shrug off direct hits from Mjolnir, Lightning bolts, and the Godforce, then rebound to kick Thor's ass.

Now there's a bias against Juggernaut, eh? The people who write/edit Hulk's comics also write/edit Juggernaut. It isn't like this is a crossover. Juggernaut has beaten Hulk under certan circumstances as well. No Hulk writer has ever said that Hulk cannot hurt Juggernaut. As I said before, Hulk didn't beat Juggernaut with the backlash, he knocked him out beforehand.

Hope that clears it up for you Juggernaut fanboys.

Why are we even getting into this?

Levels and bios not withstanding, Juggernaut isn't unstoppable.

He can either be hurt or he can't, he has been, so he's hurtable.

He's losing.

-AC

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Juggernaut and Hulk are equally as durable. They are both level 7.

Juggernaut: forcefield, armour and all got hurt by a sentinel.

Hulk takes tank shells to the cranium while strolling around in jeans.

Who's more durable? Yes.

Simple logic finally prevails 161 pages in.

-AC

It's real easy when you use those examples.

There's only one answer to this debate.

Juggernaut is "hurtable". Whether this FACT is ignored or not, we have proven it.

Hulk will hurt him.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Juggernaut: forcefield, armour and all got hurt by a sentinel.

Hulk takes tank shells to the cranium while strolling around in jeans.

Who's more durable? Yes.

Simple logic finally prevails 161 pages in.

-AC

In fact, if you look at Juggernaut's fights vs. Thor where the forcefield is CLEARLY visible.....then it's pretty safe to conclude Juggernaut didn't have his forcefield up.

We need Juggfan to make a cameo again in this thread to verify whether or not Juggs still even has a forcefield.

With the forcefield he has completley stopped a barrage of attacks from Thor, has stopped Thor's hammer from physically hitting him, and has continued forward momentum during a God Force blast.

Thor = Sentinel ? I don't think so...

and in the next panel Juggernaut admits to "playing opossum" and then thoroughly dismantles 2 sentinels while severly damaging a third. (later he destroys it)

Dude War hulk with all his celestial power couldnt get the job done. he didnt hurt the juggernaut. what chances does the normal hulk has. First off the sentinel that nailed juggs was no normal sentinel. It was nimrod, i think the hulk would also be having his fair share of trouble with nimrod. apparantly nimrods strength level is also 100 class level, among his many other powers making him a powerful being. Hulk again has been knocked out and got his ass handed to him by the likes of doc ock.

I never said juggernaut cant feel pain. he could feel the flames when he was roasted into nothing more then a skeleton, which i might add hulk would be dead from. he more than likely felt the hulks punches on more the 1 occasion. What im saying is he can feel all he wants it still wont cause him sufficiant damage to stop him. Punches is not going to stop the juggernaut, he may feel them, but it wont stop him

you need Magic, and psi powers to get the job done. the only time the juggernaut has been layed out cold was by onslaught. not by anyone else. For arrguments sake fine we will say Hulk can make the juggernaut feel his punches, it will still not stop him, bottomline. he can toss juggernaut all he wants, he will still keep on coming.

like i said from the beginning in a normal run of the mill fight hulk more then likely will win the fight. in a fight to the finish hulk will be finished, it all depends on the type of fight it is.