Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by long pig486 pages

Hulk wins by incapacitating Juggernaut, or knocking him out by overcoming the enchantment.[/B]

You think Hulk would last long enough to theoretically become that strong?
I do not.

If it's even possible(which there is no proof that it is), it'd take weeks to become that strong.

Originally posted by Hulk Power
Can Juggs lift 150 BILLION tons? I don't think so. Therefore that proves that Hulk is stronger than Juggs.

Oh yes, that settles it. Hulk is stronger than Juggernaut because Hulk Power of the KMC Comic Book 'Versus' forum thinks so.

I was only being a smartass when saying Hulk's strength is unknown, because, technically it is. 😎

I of course know his strength is limitless.

I also have been given enough proof to think Jug's strength is so high it's near limitless.
The strength difference between the two isn't enough to warrent debate.
It's just too close.

Originally posted by long pig
I was only being a smartass when saying Hulk's strength is unknown, because, technically it is. 😎

I of course know his strength is limitless.

I also have been given enough proof to think Jug's strength is so high it's near limitless.
The strength difference between the two isn't enough to warrent debate.
It's just too close.

How many times must I refute the whole "it takes time," bit? I've shown several occasions when Hulk has increased his strength to unimaginable levels in mere seconds. What evidence do you have that suggests that Juggernaut is even close to Hulk in strength?

Come to think of it, that isn't Savage Hulk in either comic. In "Tales to Astonish" #100, After Hulk is given his orders by The Puppet Master, he says, "I will remember!" Savage Hulk never says "I," or "Me." My scanner isn't working, but if you ask me any question about the comic, I can reply with the exact wording. Do you have Tales To Astonish #100?

"No matter how strong you are in the water--- We are on land, where I am the most powerful!"

Does that sound like Savage Hulk?

Sounds like he's being controlled by someone smarter.....

Originally posted by long pig
Sounds like he's being controlled by someone smarter.....

Did you read the issue? Hulk isn't being "mind controlled," he is being ordered by the Puppet Master. The Puppet Master gives Hulk and spoken order, such as "Go after him you green gargoyle!" and Hulk follows the order.

I can assure you that this is not Savage Hulk. This is during the period in which Bruce uses the Gamma Ray to turn himself into the Hulk. Savage Hulk is involuntary.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Oh yes, that settles it. Hulk is stronger than Juggernaut because Hulk Power of the KMC Comic Book 'Versus' forum thinks so.

Well if Juggs hasn't lifted that before it must be because he can't. Has he even lifted anything close to that? If so then tell me but if he hasn't then that proves that Hulk is stronger and that Juggs strength has a limit. Besides I don't think that Hulk is stronger than Juggs. I know it for a fact. argue

If I'm wrong, then oh well.
No biggy.

The point is, just like I can't prove Jug's limitless strength, you can't prove Hulks ability to become strong enough to negate Cyttorak's enchantments.

Originally posted by long pig
If I'm wrong, then oh well.
No biggy.

The point is, just like I can't prove Jug's limitless strength, you can't prove Hulks ability to become strong enough to negate Cyttorak's enchantments.

And you can't prove that Savage Hulk can be knocked unconscious.

Hence, a draw.

Originally posted by Hulk Power
Well if Juggs hasn't lifted that before it must be because he can't.

I haven't eaten stone soup but that doesn't mean I can't. I haven't hit a home run ball but that doesn't mean I can't. I haven't had a baby but that doesn't mean I can't. Wait... scratch that last one.

Has he even lifted anything close to that? If so then tell me but if he hasn't then that proves that Hulk is stronger and that Juggs strength has a limit.

As I said earlier, Juggernaut's feats are mostly about his durability. Now we know because Hulk's strength increases, at one point he will be stronger than Juggernaut but because a character hasn't shown they can do something, that doesn't mean they can't. Iceman didn't know he could turn into solid ice but he eventually did it.
Besides I don't think that Hulk is stronger than Juggs. I know it for a fact. argue

Way to grow a pair.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I haven't eaten stone soup but that doesn't mean I can't. I haven't hit a home run ball but that doesn't mean I can't. I haven't had a baby but that doesn't mean I can't. Wait... scratch that last one.

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As I said earlier, Juggernaut's feats are mostly about his durability. Now we know because Hulk's strength increases, at one point he will be stronger than Juggernaut but because a character hasn't shown they can do something, that doesn't mean they can't. Iceman didn't know he could turn into solid ice but he eventually did it.
[b]
Way to grow a pair.

What is stone soup made out of?

Durability isn't quite the same as strength. I've seen Juggernaut chuck buses, but nothing that really compares to anything Hulk has done.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
What is stone soup made out of?

I think it's like a stew but with a stone (cleaned) in it.
Durability isn't quite the same as strength. I've seen Juggernaut chuck buses, but nothing that really compares to anything Hulk has done.

I know it's not but he doesn't really flaunt it like Hulk does. It's what Hulk is. Superman is crazy fast but he doesn't flaunt it like Flash does because speed is what Flash is.

At base level Juggs might be stronger than Hulk (even then I doubt it) but once Hulk stars getting real madd, Juggs strength will be lower than Hulk's strength by quite a bit and eventually a lot. Juggs might be able to take more than Hulk but Hulk is stronger than Juggs. In the end strength is all that really matters.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I think it's like a stew but with a stone (cleaned) in it.
[b]
I know it's not but he doesn't really flaunt it like Hulk does. It's what Hulk is. Superman is crazy fast but he doesn't flaunt it like Flash does because speed is what Flash is.

True, but what evidence suggests that Juggernaut is as strong as Hulk? Surely he would demonstrate this strength occasionally.

You don't eat the stone, do you? How would the stone add any flavor to the stew if you clean it first? Is it just boiled water and a stone, or are there other ingredients?

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I haven't eaten stone soup but that doesn't mean I can't....

I knew it, you have my stone! Give it back you bastard!

Originally posted by Hulk Power
At base level Juggs might be stronger than Hulk (even then I doubt it) but once Hulk stars getting real madd, Juggs strength will be lower than Hulk's strength by quite a bit and eventually a lot. Juggs might be able to take more than Hulk but Hulk is stronger than Juggs. In the end strength is all that really matters.

Hulk and Juggernaut haven't fought in quite some time. Hulk's base strength is fuzzy now. It certainly isn't 70 tons anymore. We've seen Hulk close earthquake fissures with his bare hands and lift mountains while pretty calm. Logically, it would have to be far, far more than 100 tons.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
True, but what evidence suggests that Juggernaut is as strong as Hulk? Surely he would demonstrate this strength occasionally.

There are the times he fought Hulk and held his own. Or when he grappled Nightmare. Not sure how strong Nightmare is but he's gotta be packin'.

You don't eat the stone, do you? How would the stone add any flavor to the stew if you clean it first? Is it just boiled water and a stone, or are there other ingredients?

You got me. Maybe it's not stone soup unless the stone is in it.
Here's a recipe
Now that I look at it, it kind of looks like a gumbo or a chili or something.
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I knew it, you have my stone! Give it back you bastard!

NEVER!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
There are the times he fought Hulk and held his own. Or when he grappled Nightmare. Not sure how strong Nightmare is but he's gotta be packin'.

[b]
You got me. Maybe it's not stone soup unless the stone is in it.
Here's a recipe
Now that I look at it, it kind of looks like a gumbo or a chili or something.

NEVER!

True. But, Hulk is the strongest one there is.

Of course you don't eat the stone, silly. Imagine the damage it would do. Well, that would depend on the texture of the stone, and it's size. Do they give any specific dimensions? If it's about the size of a baseball, I wouldn't have too big of a problem passing it through my rectum. A softball would be pushing it.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
NEVER!

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