In the end strength is all that really matters.
If jugs can grow stronger or what not is debatable.
But I believe Jugs can take more than Hulk could ever give, for as long as he can give it.
Hulk couldn't do the same.
the stone in stone soup is just to keep the soup piping hot.
they'd heat a rock red hot then drop it in.
''when juggie builds up a head of steam there is nothing he cant move'' do you people ever listen, that is his enchantment to be able to knock any thing out the way when he atrts to move in a particular direction and only be stopped by magic. fair play i have conceded this over and over, this makes juggie kind of like a bull in a bull fight. its as simple as that, not limitless strength etc, he can grow in power from cyttorak, but cyttoraks power is not limitless. hulk has the ability to get too strong for juggie and cyttoraks magic, its simple. i dont think u will ever see this in a comic but character wise its pretty simple. and im talking hulk on top form here, not when he gets knocked out by namour ( this happened as savage underwater), or winded by batman, but a full on mad hulk written on top form, against a juggie of the same ilk, ie not in onslaught mode. like ive said i think abom would trash juggie, i think he is too powerful for juggie to beat
cyttoraks power is not limitless.
do you people ever listen, that is his enchantment to be able to knock any thing out the way when he atrts to move in a particular direction
Yup, including hulk.
hulk has the ability to get too strong for juggie and cyttoraks magic
yes but juggie knocking hulk out the way ( due to his power that is not being questioned) is a small part of a fight. hulk will not continually let juggie build up a head of steam. cyttorak is not limitless in power. juggie is susceptable to a powerful enough physical attack. thats also in his marvel bio. and he can continue in a particular direction, like a fuelled up forest gump. lmao
Originally posted by Tough Guy
yes but juggie knocking hulk out the way ( due to his power that is not being questioned) is a small part of a fight. hulk will not continually let juggie build up a head of steam. cyttorak is not limitless in power. juggie is susceptable to a powerful enough physical attack. thats also in his marvel bio. and he can continue in a particular direction, like a fuelled up forest gump. lmao
as far as i'm concerned everybody else on the forum atleast understands (or tries to understand) the juggernaut "fanboys" point of view. but you are as stubborn as they come 😉
an enchantment is an enchantment. odin isnt limitless in power either. yet try harming the destroyer 😉 its debatable weather or not cyttorak is on par with odin, but i believe him to be above skyfather level. weather slightly or by leaps and bounds. but his enchantments are atleast as powerful as the ones that protect thors hammer and the destroyer. both of which are indestructable unless you are on celestial levels of power (because the celestials destroyed the destroyer) or counter act it with another spell. thors hammer has been destroyed, but by another mage of magic. these things do NOT apply to hulk, and you need to realize that. hulk cant apply magic, and hulk is a far cry from being able to hurt juggernaut 😉
If this were an actual comic here is how the fight would go...
Juggernaut and Hulk are fighting in the middle of downtoan NYC. Hulk drops a McDonald's and buries him. Hulk relaxes after seemingly emerging victorious. Juggernaut leaps out of the building rubble eating a big mac and says, "NOTHING ST*CHEWS*OPS *burp* THE JUGGERNAUT!"
Then the Juggernaut falls off the cliff that nobody ever noticed was in the middle downtown NYC before and the Hulk chalks it up as a victory.
That's usually how Juggs loses. That or X-men telepathy.
Post Onslaught Hulk cant really be knocked out...before that he was knocked out plenty. Juggernaut knocked out Prof Hulk after a drawn out fight and a combination of choking and hitting him in the head. A few issues later Madman knocked him out with one punch (Madman is superior to Juggernaut in strength). Trauma left him unconscious assumed dead also...does that mean Trauma is Hulk's superior? Hell no!
whats the point of making a character with potentially infinite strength?........one side u have a guy who is the personification of durability....on the other a guy with limitless strength....now hulk has showed far stronger strength then juggy did with durability....eventually he will get through his magical force field...just like he ripped onslaught's armor.....i go with the hulk...+ i really hate juggy he has really big hands......which used to scary the sh*t out of me as a child.....
Originally posted by Wynndar
Post Onslaught Hulk cant really be knocked out...before that he was knocked out plenty. Juggernaut knocked out Prof Hulk after a drawn out fight and a combination of choking and hitting him in the head. A few issues later Madman knocked him out with one punch (Madman is superior to Juggernaut in strength). Trauma left him unconscious assumed dead also...does that mean Trauma is Hulk's superior? Hell no!
We're talking about Savage Hulk. Professor, Grey Hulk, Banner-Controlled Hulk, Mindless Hulk, and the rest are not in question.