Juggernaut or The Hulk?

how do u know?did u ever fight with him.and conclude from that that the magic cant be broken with sufficiently strong enough force?

THE ONLY TIME HIS MAGIC WAS EVER BROKEN... EVER was from Onslaught, and Onslaught had to pull out the Crystal from his freaking chest.

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
THE ONLY TIME HIS MAGIC WAS EVER BROKEN... EVER was from Onslaught, and Onslaught had to pull out the Crystal from his freaking chest.

Before that, he knocked Juggernaut unconcious, but no one considers either of the two events to be canon.

hulk did some crazy s**T like stop the matter anti matter attraction ....which is impossible to do.....he held energy fields.....he did crazy things......if he is enraged..then nothing can stop him.....becasue thats how marvel wants it......thars y he did all this crazy things....the writers are trying to show that his power is limitless....

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
wtf are you talkin about, you cant break cytorrak's magic, its not some stupid seal, juggernaut is the magic, his entire body.

His body is not the magic. His body is protected and fortified by the magic. As an exemplar, he wields Cyttorak's magic, similar to the way the Silver Surfer wields Galactus's power.

Cyttorak's enchantment is a spell, or a curse, to be more accurate.

Originally posted by colossus17
hulk did some crazy s**T like stop the matter anti matter attraction ....which is impossible to do.....he held energy fields.....he did crazy things......if he is enraged..then nothing can stop him.....becasue thats how marvel wants it......thars y he did all this crazy things....the writers are trying to show that his power is limitless....

I know. But, many insist that Juggernaut's durability is limitless as well (though it was never stated, or proven,) and that he is immune to pain, and injury, (yet, he can have the wind knocked out of him, or cry out in pain.) Hulk has broken numerous inchantments and done the "impossible" of many occasion. He has even broken the Bands of Cyttorak, the very spell that gives Juggernaut his power. But, even with limitless strength, he could never break the enchantment.

Go figure.

Juggernaut can call upon limitless power from Cytorrak, as demonstrated when, once again ill say, when the thugs were controlling him they had him so powerful, no one could stop him.

y didnt he call for this "limitless" power....when war hulk was beating the s**t out of him?

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
Juggernaut can call upon limitless power from Cytorrak, as demonstrated when, once again ill say, when the thugs were controlling him they had him so powerful, no one could stop him.

No, he can't. He is just an exemplar. His only connection to the Crimson Cosmos was the Ruby, which he only posessed for a short time, and lost years ago. Who said that Cyttorak's power was limitless?

"when the thugs were controlling him they had him so powerful, no one could stop him."

Who is "no one?" Police officers? A S.W.A.T. team? Be more specific.

when ever hulk gets mad, he gets stronger......eventually, he will surpass the might of cytorak and smash juggernaut

No one, is not even Professor X could get through his force-field, and he had his helmet off and everything.

Originally posted by WOLVERINEFAN
when ever hulk gets mad, he gets stronger......eventually, he will surpass the might of cytorak and smash juggernaut

No matter how strong you are, you still cant break the air.

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
No matter how strong you are, you still cant break the air.

Yeah, you can. It's called fission.

bad anology.... u cant break it becasue its not solid....the force field is solid.and generated by something.u can break its energy matrix.....and make it unstable....and trust me with today's writers hulk could probably break air.....

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
No one, is not even Professor X could get through his force-field, and he had his helmet off and everything.

Since when does Professor X have Superhuman strength? 🤨

What are you talking about?

Originally posted by colossus17
bad anology.... u cant break it becasue its not solid....the force field is solid.and generated by something.u can break its energy matrix.....and make it unstable....and trust me with today's writers hulk could probably break air.....

lol

Hulk has broken indestructable force fields in the past. He even destroyed a force field that reflected his strength back at him.

exactly......you cant quantify his strength becasue he performs illogical feats of strength....like the example above....its basically means he is stronger then himself...how is it logical....its like saying i can fly becasue i can put my arm over my back and pull myself up.....

Originally posted by colossus17
exactly......you cant quantify his strength becasue he performs illogical feats of strength....like the example above....its basically means he is stronger then himself...how is it logical....its like saying i can fly becasue i can put my arm over my back and pull myself up.....

Deep, man. Deep.

I agree, though. After Beyonder put him under and probed him, he found that Hulk draws his strength from a source of limitless power, meaning he could become strong enough to do anything. I mean, what's higher than infinity?

This should settle this argument once and for all. In the comic book "Incredible Hulk #457" the JUGGERNAUT is beaten by HULK. I will now tell you how the fight happened. Heres what I read in the website I visited. And I quote:

" The Juggernaut comes crashing down at the Hulk, dressed as War under Apocalypse's control, and hits him and keeps pushing him backwards. Until the Hulk manages to stop the Juggernaut from pushing him any further, then a coil from the Hulk's armor snakes and wraps around the Juggernaut's leg. The Hulk throws him around and then sends him flying away. The Juggernaut lands in a mosque and as the Hulk comes leaping down onto him, the Juggernaut hits him and sends him flying across the street. THE JUGGERNAUT AND HULK CONTINUE TO FIGHT UNTIL THE HULK FINALLY BEATS THE JUGGERNAUT DOWN."

The link to this site is
http://www.incrediblehulk.com/juggernaut.html
Just scroll down to the bottom.

Therefore the Hulk wins and Juggs loses. Any questions? I think not. 💃 💃 💃 💃 💃

and at their meeting in the forest juggy beats the hulk...when he dosent even have his armor on.....it dosent proove anything...