Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Soujaboy486 pages
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stop bringing up old points, where is his Ulimited Stamina???

He doesn't have it, so he misinterprets Juggernauts comics feats so they can seem as bad as Hulks.

Originally posted by Accel
I never said he was K.O.ed, but he WAS stopped by the cement and he runs from Venom because of... well... Venom. He clearly didn't care the girl wanted him to stop.

Heck, there other times where the "Unstoppable" Juggernaut is stopped (Hulk stopping his charge TWICE in their first encounter, Thing tripping him, Venom backhanding him AND stopping him, the cement, etc).

Hulk never stopped his charge, i've already proved that so stop giving false info.

Juggernaut puts Thing down in three hits, then Thing trips him. Sounds like a big feat for Thing to me.

He nearly kills Venom, then when they fight again a girl who Juggernaut is in love ask him to stop fighting so he does.

Spiderman shoots web in Cains eyes, and he walks into wet cement.

Now compare those to all the feats I posted of Hulk getting his ass whooped.

juggernaut wins, period.

face it hulk deosnt have unlimited streangth, if he did he wouldnt have probs with, thing, abom, rhino, thor, leader, wends, the list goes on and on and on....

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Stop bringing up old points, where is his Ulimited Stamina???

It's listed as part of his powerset in the "Official Hulk Handbook." Look it up sometime.

there's also the fact that he has NEVER tired during a battle.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
He doesn't have it, so he misinterprets Juggernauts comics feats so they can seem as bad as Hulks.

That's not what I'm doing at all. You show two scans that you claim as "proof" to Hulk's limits, yet you ignore the fact they contradict his more consistent showings. I was merely doing the same with Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Hulk never stopped his charge, i've already proved that so stop giving false info.

Juggernaut puts Thing down in three hits, then Thing trips him. Sounds like a big feat for Thing to me.

He nearly kills Venom, then when they fight again a girl who Juggernaut is in love ask him to stop fighting so he does.

Spiderman shoots web in Cains eyes, and he walks into wet cement.

Now compare those to all the feats I posted of Hulk getting his ass whooped.


False info eh? Here are the scans of the beginning of the fight. Hulk stops Cain from charging TWICE. It's here, it's evidence, and like it or not, it happened.
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4955/172161aa.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/6079/172175ll.jpg
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/752/172185ma.jpg

When Thing tripped the Juggernaut, what happened to Cain? He was STOPPED.

When Juggernaut ran to Venom, who then backhanded him, what happened? He was STOPPED.

When Cain walked into the cement, what happened? He was STOPPED.

Do you see what I'm getting at here?

hulk only stopped juggs once and even then its questionable.

Originally posted by bigbran
hulk only stopped juggs once and even then its questionable.

I just posted scans of him doing it twice in the post above you...

i dont see the other one.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I asked Cosmic Cube to provide me proof early, he said he was going to give me a scan of the official handbook and never did, i asked him again, he dodge the question and gave me a "Theory" About how hulk has Unlimited Stamina.

Theory don't matter here, I don't care what you or CC think, if you guys don't provide proof, I don't wanna here anything else you have to say.

Everything We have posted about Juggernaut, we did not make up, its fact, no Theory, because at least we, understand Theory don't belong here. SO I will ask again, Provide me Proof that Hulks Stamina, NOT DURABILITY, but Stamina is Unlimited. PLEASE!!!!!

Has an enraged Hulk ever tired in the midst of battle? If so, prove it.

And if theory doesn't belong here, then what's with all the crap about Hulk having a limit to his strength and the Onslaught stuff? If that isn't blunt theorizing then I don't know what is.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
No I dont just go off Handbooks. Some Hulk fan a few pages back said that Marvel bio's only count and that Marvel bio just stated that Hulk's strength, stamina, and durability aren't limitless.

It's weird how every time someone brings proof here that Hulk isn't what you make him to be you have an excuse.

In your eyes........

Namor knocking out Hulk= Pis or low showing
Rhino knocking out Hulk= Pis or low showing
Juggernaut beating down Professor Hulk= Caught him off guard.
Hulk being ko'd by Spiderman= Low showing
Hulk reaching his limit in Onslaught saga= inconsistency
Thor physically killing Hulk= PIS
Sasquatch stalemating Hulk= PIS
Hulk being ko'd by Doc Samson= PIS
Thing stalemating Hulk=PIS
Silver Surfer owning Hulk= Pis
Thanos knocking Hulk around like a rag doll= PIS
Wolverine stalemating Hulk= Pis(I believe so To)
Official Marvel bio's stating that Hulk doesn't have unlimited strength, durability, or stamina= I cant go of these either

How many times does Hulk have to get ****ed up before you stop saying it's PIS for him to get beat down?

Every time we come up with proof it's PIS

Amen I couldn't have said it better myself 😄

Originally posted by Dinalfos
And if theory doesn't belong here, then what's with all the crap about Hulk having a limit to his strength and the Onslaught stuff? If that isn't blunt theorizing then I don't know what is.
I have the whole Onslought saga. Hulk attacked Onslaught from the back while he was fighting...

Originally posted by Rewmac
I have the whole Onslought saga. Hulk attacked Onslaught from the back while he was fighting...

That's not what this is about.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
That's not what this is about.

Ok, what is this About?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Ok, what is this About?

Probably about the rage limit? You never know with you guys.

Originally posted by Accel
Marvel never said Hulk had a limit to his strength. Not once. Even in the Official Hulk Handbook, it states his strength, durability, and stamina are all unlimited.

I never said EVERYTHING bad that happened to Hulk was PIS, but look at it this way:

Hulk has shown he can heal from a damaged brain stems, being reduced to a skeleton, and being reduced to atoms. We then see a pic (Thor killing Hulk by impaling him) that contradicts ALL of Hulk's consistent showings, yet we just accept that one showing and ignore all the others. It just doesn't make sense to me.

We then see Venom smack around Juggernaut, as well as Hulk, Thing and Spider-Man stop him from charging, yet everyone still accepts the fact that he's 'unstoppable' and no one claims those other low showings as evidence that Cain CAN in fact be stopped.

You can't have it both ways.

good point

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Probably about the rage limit? You never know with you guys.

........what?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Probably about the rage limit? You never know with you guys.

Oh ok you changed it.

Answer me one question then.

Has Hulk been killed KO'ED before?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
........what?

What what?

Originally posted by Accel
Marvel never said Hulk had a limit to his strength. Not once. Even in the Official Hulk Handbook, it states his strength, durability, and stamina are all unlimited.

I never said EVERYTHING bad that happened to Hulk was PIS, but look at it this way:

Hulk has shown he can heal from a damaged brain stems, being reduced to a skeleton, and being reduced to atoms. We then see a pic (Thor killing Hulk by impaling him) that contradicts ALL of Hulk's consistent showings, yet we just accept that one showing and ignore all the others. It just doesn't make sense to me.

We then see Venom smack around Juggernaut, as well as Hulk, Thing and Spider-Man stop him from charging, yet everyone still accepts the fact that he's 'unstoppable' and no one claims those other low showings as evidence that Cain CAN in fact be stopped.

You can't have it both ways.

Marvel never said a limit to Juggernaut's power either. All Handbooks say his strenght is immeasurable. The thing he uses a power of a God. We don't know how powerful reallyCytorrak power is. Don't tell Hulk can be stronger than a power of a God. Venom smacked around Juggy coz of the enhanched mutation, Hulk attacked him in the back, The Thing never beat the Juggernaut and Spiderman neither. And as for healing. In X-Force #3 Juggernaut got his eye pocked out by a magical knife it took him 2-3 secs to totally regenerate it.