Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Linkalicious
it was great writing. Mr. Muscles got rocked by a psychic entity.

It's always fun to see.

Hey, what effect would Psylocke's little phsyic blade have on Juggs? Like if she stabbed him in the head without his helmet. or in the chest where the crystal is supposed to be?

Just wondering...

this is what is so stupid about it. see..... even you have the wrong idea. the f u c k i n g gem was NEVER in juggernauts chest. it was NEVER in his F u c k i n g God D a m N chest. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER in there. until onslaught............

the last time it was seen is when he launched it into orbit, and nova bumped it back out of orbit. then a little boy named stevie had it. but it was NEVER in juggernauts chest. "where it is supposed to be" pfft.....

Originally posted by Mane
omfg! will you guys just let this thread die!? you started this thing in October of last year! i think 10 months is long enough for a thread to be active!

its like a fine wine..... only gets better with time.

Originally posted by Mane
Shut up

um i dont think anyone would compare that wretch "Secret Wars II" to the Onslought story...secret wars II was clearly not edited or writen as well....considering marvel's economics were depending on the Onslought story, and half of its heroes were killed off...however, secret wars II did not cross over into the other books and was simply terrible

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
this is what is so stupid about it. see..... even you have the wrong idea. the f u c k i n g gem was NEVER in juggernauts chest. it was NEVER in his F u c k i n g God D a m N chest. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER in there. until onslaught............

the last time it was seen is when he launched it into orbit, and nova bumped it back out of orbit. then a little boy named stevie had it. but it was NEVER in juggernauts chest. "where it is supposed to be" pfft.....

wet your huggies now why don't you.

Where is the damn thing then? it has to be able to be separated from him somehow...

Does the hulk ever get fatigued - or just more powerful.

If the latter, my vote is with the hulk.

So long as Betty doesn't show up, hulk ain't gonna have any reason to calm down. Is Juggernaught smart enough to calm the hulk into Banner? Even then, he'd have o kill Banner. That would be Banner Vs the Juggernaught - In an all-out J VS H slugfest, I agree with two previously mentioned points on this thread.

1) - Jug would get thrown around like a toy that doesn't break.

2) - Where an angry hulk is quite literally unstopable, Juggernaught only needs to be seperated from his crystal power...

BUT then... if he hasn't got the crystal, is he still the Juggernaught?
If Hulk transforms back to Banner, is he still the Hulk?

In Superstates, it doesn't matter who is strongest as they can both take a much greater pounding than anything can give them - Stalemate. No-one would permenantly fall.

the Hulk does fatigue...unless he is getting mad....then all his attributes just keep intensifying...

first off, its Juggernaut not Juggernaught

secondly, Hulk doesnt really get tired (because his healing factor has a part in healing his fatigue) but he can get mad to the point he'll go insane

Deadpool, while not insanely powerful, has fought both of the people in question.

He is just one of the many Marvel characters that thing Hulk is incomparable. Not only that, but he has actually stated that Hulk is in another league to Juggernaut, in a comic that Stan Lee over saw.

-AC

Originally posted by Linkalicious
wet your huggies now why don't you.

Where is the damn thing then? it has to be able to be separated from him somehow...

but that's exactly what i've been trying to say from the beginning. people act like they know what they are talking about when it comes to juggernaut and onslaught. the gem was -never- in juggernauts chest. it was just floating about. way back in the day, in marvel team ups.... juggernaut had to fly half way around the world to retrieve the gem because he wanted to share his power with black tom. he didnt puke it up out of his sternum. he flew around the world to get it.....

it doesnt have to be separated from him because it never was a part of him.

Originally posted by Jurel
Does the hulk ever get fatigued - or just more powerful.

If the latter, my vote is with the hulk.

hulk does get tired, he has before....

Originally posted by Jurel

1) - Jug would get thrown around like a toy that doesn't break.

but so would hulk, juggernaut has proven just as capable of physical combat as hulk.

Originally posted by Jurel

2) - Where an angry hulk is quite literally unstopable, Juggernaught only needs to be seperated from his crystal power...

but hulk doesnt have the power to separate cain marko from the magics.... he doesnt practice magics of any sort.

Originally posted by Jurel

BUT then... if he hasn't got the crystal, is he still the Juggernaught?
If Hulk transforms back to Banner, is he still the Hulk?

juggernaut has been separated from the crystal since he first used it to get the power of the juggernaut..... until the stupid onslaught story arc. that was the -only- time that it has ever show juggernaut to have the gem in his chest.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Deadpool, while not insanely powerful, has fought both of the people in question.

He is just one of the many Marvel characters that thing Hulk is incomparable. Not only that, but he has actually stated that Hulk is in another league to Juggernaut, in a comic that Stan Lee over saw.

-AC

what issue did deadpool say this in?? also, hulk busters said that juggernaut looked even more powerful than hulk.......

looked? or is...

Juggernaut Fan,

This issue. (Pic didn't work last time so sorry for double post)

-AC

JuggernautFan is right though. Juggernaut's never needed to keep the ruby in his possession.

Hmmm, I would say that it's possible that Hulk could get the ruby and thus take half of Juggernaut's power but neither Stevie or Nova reduced Juggernaut when they possessed/touched the Ruby of Cytorrak (though Stevie did use it in a team-up with the Hulk to stop the Juggernaut).

Maybe it really does have something to do with reading the enchantment and Juggernaut willed the ruby to works its magic on Black Tom. As a slam against Juggernaut, he only managed to throw the ruby into orbit. Hulk would've pitched it to Pluto. 😛

Deadpool's comparison might've had more to do with temperment. While 'naut's did go south once Deadpool poured that molten metal on him he was still reasonable, as opposed to the rampaging Hulk who is reknowned for his 'gettin angry & goin crazy' jags! ...what tune was Wade using? (the little musical notes)

Well, the only saving grace is that I think that all material that stat's characters (except SAGA) says that:

"The Hulk possesses the capacity for nearly limitless physical strength".

AC, you know that Stan will put his name on anything if he thinks that there's money in it! 😄

I don't think Stan really cares about the money a great deal.

He sued coz he wasn't getting his money from the Spider-Man movies or something but that's right. Who likes getting ripped off?

-AC

well, atleast the hulk busters still said that Juggernaut looked even more powerful than hulk ( in the pages of the hulk comics, when it was still the savage hulk).

also what issue was it. was it in continuity??? cause i have pics of juggernaut standing over a dead magneto also, but it was an alternate reality, so it doesnt really matter.

Issue 4 Volume 2 of Deadpool's series. Deadpool also fought Juggernaut and put up a better fight than he did against Hulk. Not saying he'd win, just comparison.

I think in some cases Juggernaut looks more intimidating. He looks like a sicko. But doesn't really change who I back.

-AC

Originally posted by Morph
Juggs isn't indestructable, he's been defeated many a time. Hulk would own his ass.

You're an idiot. It took War-Hulk with the power of TWO UNIVERSES to beat Juggernaut.

That doesn't make him an idiot. Juggernaut gets defeated a lot...but that's mostly because he's a bad guy...and bad guys aren't supposed to win.

He can go toe-to-toe with the best and slug it our with Marvel's finest...but that doesn't mean he can't be defeated.

And War Hulk probably woulda found a way to actually destroy Juggernaut...if the fight continued.