What you did was a hypocritical thing. Telling someone not to insult another's intelligence.. then the next day you yourself insult the intelligence of another. But now you're claiming that it's okay to insult the intelligence of another person if you believe yourself be more intelligent than that person you insult.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Big difference between idiots calling people idiots and smart people calling people idiots.
That's some seriously flawed logic there. Or are you just saying you're so much better than these other people that you are above the rules about flaming? And that's it's perfectly okay for you to insult someone if you want to.. but no one else can?
"What you did was a hypocritical thing. Telling someone not to insult another's intelligence.. then the next day you yourself insult the intelligence of another. But now you're claiming that it's okay to insult the intelligence of another person if you believe yourself be more intelligent than that person you insult."
Calm down and let's discuss what I wrote. I didn't do a hypocritical thing. I've never insulted anyone purposely. It's all in perception. If someone is acting stupid or has a point of view that I BELIEVE is stupid, I shall say so. It's not aimed at their heart, just their opinion or their attitude. If someone is going around dissing people and calling them stupid and dumb for no reason, it's out of hand. Which I have never done. So get that straight. I also said:
"That's some seriously flawed logic there. Or are you just saying you're so much better than these other people that you are above the rules about flaming? And that's it's perfectly okay for you to insult someone if you want to.. but no one else can?"
Well......it would be if that were my logic. You're getting confused. I just said a smart person calling someone an idiot is alot different than an idiot calling someone an idiot. Did I mention ME? No. Stop making so many assumptions. I have done nothing ANYWHERE NEAR flaming anyone. You need to chill out. If you have a problem with something I've said, tell me so by PM and we can discuss it. Don't come to me trying to catch me out when you clearly have things twisted.
-AC
Hulk beat the Juggernaut (Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #404, #457), and the Juggernaut beat the Hulk (Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #402; Cain attacked the Hulk while wearing street clothes instead of his Juggernaut armor so that the Hulk wouldn't notice him. By the time the Hulk figured out who he was it was too late, and he was being beaten senseless. The Red Skull then ordered the Juggernaut to stop before he killed Hulk).
Originally posted by ska57
Hulk beat the Juggernaut (Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #404, #457), and the Juggernaut beat the Hulk (Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #402; Cain attacked the Hulk while wearing street clothes instead of his Juggernaut armor so that the Hulk wouldn't notice him. By the time the Hulk figured out who he was it was too late, and he was being beaten senseless. The Red Skull then ordered the Juggernaut to stop before he killed Hulk).
Yeah, that was a good one. I remember that. He had Hulk in a headlock with one arm, and pounding his green face with the other.
Juggernaut could take lots of people that same way. Just don't wear the trademark armor, and they won't know what hit them. 😆
Originally posted by ska57
Hulk beat the Juggernaut (Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #404, #457), and the Juggernaut beat the Hulk (Incredible Hulk vol. 2 #402; Cain attacked the Hulk while wearing street clothes instead of his Juggernaut armor so that the Hulk wouldn't notice him. By the time the Hulk figured out who he was it was too late, and he was being beaten senseless. The Red Skull then ordered the Juggernaut to stop before he killed Hulk).
this is why people claim that hulk has won more often than not. the only clear cut victory that hulk has over juggernaut, is because he was upgraded exponentially. the 404 fight it is very clear that hulk did not knock juggernaut out. it was a physchic backlash that did him in. even the writer ( peter david ) has acknolwedged that he was under the impression that juggernaut was invulnerable, which is why he added the backlash in the first place. yes i'm going to say it. you are an IDIOT.
Originally posted by Linkalicious
Seriously. That whole fight Hulk's sitting there holding back because he didn't want to hurt a human, but during that time Juggs was wiping the floor with his green hair.And then he's dumb enough to try and save him when he falls in the quicksand....🙄
sometimes Hulk.....somtimes...❌
seriously. that whole fight hulks sitting around charging himself with 2 universes worth of energy to fight juggernaut. it works both ways pal. hulk has never been able to overpower/defeat juggernaut at normal levels of power. i dont understand whats so hard to get about that.
i also must note that trickery is often a villain thing. it doesnt mean anything. if doom uses trickery, does that discredit him??? but if juggernaut does, it certainly isnt fair right??? hulk was throwing punchs, hulk said half way through the comic that he didnt know who he was or what he was doing there, but he was tired of it. i'm sure as hulk was going unconscious he was fighting back at the time. nobody lets somebody headlock them and beat their brains out thier ears........
to tell you the truth, it's straight up 50/50 now. neither can beat the other, and it will be that way till the end of time.
marvel will always have it be a classic battle, and there will always be circumstances that will allow one to win vs the other. it will give alot of people something to talk about in their spare time. so we can say things like "well if it wasnt for those circumstances my vote goes to X".
so from now till you die, you can pretty much expect that hulk and juggernaut are going to be equals. unless juggernaut looses more of his power.
"so from now till you die, you can pretty much expect that hulk and juggernaut are going to be equals. unless juggernaut looses more of his power."
The reason for this 38 page thread is because many of us, for good reason, believe Hulk is superior. Just because you have posted alot of info doesn't make it true that they are equal, with all due respect.
-AC
The simple fact that Hulk's strength knows no bounds is his one advantage in any fight. However.. against the Juggernaut that advantage is not so great, because regardless of how mad and or strong Hulk gets, he can't hurt Juggernaut with his punches, he can't knock him out. The best he could ever do (when not super charged by cosmic energy from 2 universes, decked out in celestial armor and under Apocalypse's control) is throw Juggernaut far enough away and then jump off in the opposite direction. That's not exactly a clear cut victory.
"However.. against the Juggernaut that advantage is not so great, because regardless of how mad and or strong Hulk gets, he can't hurt Juggernaut with his punches, he can't knock him out. The best he could ever do (when not super charged by cosmic energy from 2 universes, decked out in celestial armor and under Apocalypse's control) is throw Juggernaut far enough away and then jump off in the opposite direction. That's not exactly a clear cut victory."
Pardon? Hulk's punches can't hurt Juggernaut? I suggest you look at their fights. Juggernaut has been knocked out by Vision and Cyclops. Hulk's punches hurt him, fact.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"However.. against the Juggernaut that advantage is not so great, because regardless of how mad and or strong Hulk gets, he can't hurt Juggernaut with his punches, he can't knock him out. The best he could ever do (when not super charged by cosmic energy from 2 universes, decked out in celestial armor and under Apocalypse's control) is throw Juggernaut far enough away and then jump off in the opposite direction. That's not exactly a clear cut victory."Pardon? Hulk's punches can't hurt Juggernaut? I suggest you look at their fights. Juggernaut has been knocked out by Vision and Cyclops. Hulk's punches hurt him, fact.
-AC
i think you are exaggerating just a tad here. this is why i dont think you know what you are talking about. cyclops most powerful beams do.........nothing to juggernaut. he stands there smiling while cyclopse full optic blast described as "being able to rip apart a small planet" or something to that sort.
when did vision knock juggernaut out also???? i think you need to give us issue number cause thats totally false also.
when did hulks punchs hurt him?? i swear i believe that you are recieving second hand information and you have not read what you talk about. and this post is exactly why.