Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Why do you need to read it all??? I mean it's not like wenn you joined 3 day's or 4 day's ago that you brought up something new.
This topic has been going for over a year now so, wenn you think someone wins, it's called opinion, man nobody has to agree with you or me or anybody els, iff they think juggs wins or hulk, without posting why it's there right to do so, that's the same reason why I don't really look at the poll's much.
You can't say who would win or anybody els on this forum for that matter, they never fought both bloodlusted to the dead, so nobody can say who would win.

This us why I try to no longer debate with Hulk fans in physical confrontations, It's hopeless. No offense to the Hulkster fans, but if you read half of what you post, you'd say the same.

By the way Dalak, I lift weights on a regular basis and I have to say that it's much harder to dead lift something than for something to be dropped on you and you brace it. Have you ever wondered why it's much harder to power clean than to squat? Heres a better example, Say some one drops a couch on you. it's very likely that you will be able to catch the couch on your shoulders, and then brace it. Now try to dead lift that same couch, lift it over your head, and then put it over your shoulders. Which one sounds harder?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
This us why I try to no longer debate with Hulk fans in physical confrontations, It's hopeless. No offense to the Hulkster fans, but if you read half of what you post, you'd say the same.

By the way Dalak, I lift weights on a regular basis and I have to say that it's much harder to dead lift something than for something to be dropped on you and you brace it. Have you ever wondered why it's much harder to power clean than to squat? Heres a better example, Say some one drops a couch on you. it's very likely that you will be able to catch the couch on your shoulders, and then brace it. Now try to dead lift that same couch, lift it over your head, and then put it over your shoulders. Which one sounds harder?

Dropping a couch from 10-15 feet? Yeah, I'd say that's harder than picking one up.

Remember, this is a 2 mile tall mountain from about 2 miles up, so we gotta give it some kinda scale.

Originally posted by Dalak
Dropping a couch from 10-15 feet? Yeah, I'd say that's harder than picking one up.

Remember, this is a 2 mile tall mountain from about 2 miles up, so we gotta give it some kinda scale.

Im sorry, but I believe that you have a much better Chance (depending on size) to catch a couch from 15 feet than dead lift it, and then toss it on your shoulders.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Im sorry, but I believe that you have a much better Chance (depending on size) to catch a couch from 15 feet than dead lift it, and then toss it on your shoulders.

I'm a big guy, and I can lift up a loveseat excepting rather easily (Not a Couch I'll admit), without the Tossing part of your equasion. I don't really think I could catch it and hold it if it fell from that height however.

Originally posted by Dalak
I'm a big guy, and I can lift up a loveseat excepting rather easily (Not a Couch I'll admit), without the Tossing part of your equasion. I don't really think I could catch it and hold it if it fell from that height however.

Catching a weight is harder than lifting it, iff you say you can catch a falling couch from 15 first you don't know much about weightlifting sorry to say, I brought this thing up in my gym and we all agreed it's a lot easier to lift it than to catch a couch, because let's say a couch that weighs 50 kilo drop's from 10 feet, and it drop's with the speed of let's say 10 meters per second. let me recalculate 10 feet in meters that's 3 meters, so that will make it 3x50= 150 kilo, because it's the force you have to keep in mind.
And I know for a fact that lifting 50 kilo or catch 150 kilo euhm I'll go for the 50 kilo thanks.

Originally posted by Accel
I don't know where th idea of an "extra-dimensional" source came from, but that's really not the case with Hulk. My guess is, the idea comes from the fact that his mind resembles the Crossroads dimension.

Cool. Thanks!

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Im sorry, but I believe that you have a much better Chance (depending on size) to catch a couch from 15 feet than dead lift it, and then toss it on your shoulders.

And Juggernaut can beat the Hulk. The odds are in his favor cause durability plays a huge part in a brawl like this.

Well a healing ability like hulks and the part that wenn he get's angry almost all of his feats go up, also is a great advantage in a fight, I know hulk can't hurt juggy, but that's why I say stalemate.
I mean what can juggernaut do against a pissed hulk?
Not much, many bring up the part of the K.O.
But you won't knock out a pissed hulk.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Catching a weight is harder than lifting it, iff you say you can catch a falling couch from 15 first you don't know much about weightlifting sorry to say, I brought this thing up in my gym and we all agreed it's a lot easier to lift it than to catch a couch, because let's say a couch that weighs 50 kilo drop's from 10 feet, and it drop's with the speed of let's say 10 meters per second. let me recalculate 10 feet in meters that's 3 meters, so that will make it 3x50= 150 kilo, because it's the force you have to keep in mind.
And I know for a fact that lifting 50 kilo or catch 150 kilo euhm I'll go for the 50 kilo thanks.

I'm not an expert on weightlifting, but I know what I can and what I can't do and I find it much easier to squat 100 pounds than to power clean 100 pounds.

Now lets say we have 300 pounds in the shape of a punching bag. I think it would be much harder to power clean the bag than to have it dropped on your shoulders. This however is not fact, but opinion.

I do think it would have been harder for the Hulk to pick the mountain up in a power clean, than to have it dropped on his back.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Well a healing ability like hulks and the part that wenn he get's angry almost all of his feats go up, also is a great advantage in a fight, I know hulk can't hurt juggy, but that's why I say stalemate.
I mean what can juggernaut do against a pissed hulk?
Not much, many bring up the part of the K.O.
But you won't knock out a pissed hulk.

Well like some have stated before, it's well withing Cain's powerset to end the fight quickly.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I'm not an expert on weightlifting, but I know what I can and what I can't do and I find it much easier to squat 100 pounds than to power clean 100 pounds.

Now lets say we have 300 pounds in the shape of a punching bag. I think it would be much harder to power clean the bag than to have it dropped on your shoulders. This however is not fact, but opinion.

I do think it would have been harder for the Hulk to pick the mountain up in a power clean, than to have it dropped on his back.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Catching a weight is harder than lifting it, iff you say you can catch a falling couch from 15 first you don't know much about weightlifting sorry to say, I brought this thing up in my gym and we all agreed it's a lot easier to lift it than to catch a couch, because let's say a couch that weighs 50 kilo drop's from 10 feet, and it drop's with the speed of let's say 10 meters per second. let me recalculate 10 feet in meters that's 3 meters, so that will make it 3x50= 150 kilo, because it's the force you have to keep in mind.
And I know for a fact that lifting 50 kilo or catch 150 kilo euhm I'll go for the 50 kilo thanks.

You guy's don't get it, it's not the object it's not how big it is or how small for that matter, a object you have to lift and is on the ground will be 100 pounds and stay that way because there is no force that make's it heavier, now iff you drop something from 2 miles like the mountain, it will get heavier by how fast it drop's, that's the force, it doesn't really make it heavier but it does feel heavier because the force behind it, it's call the law of newton iff I'm not mistaken.
Like I tried to explain iff you drop something like 50 kg (sorry I use meters and kg I'm not used to use feet and pounds, but I bett you get the picture).
Ok back to what I tried to explain you drop 50 kilo's from 10 meters and it traffels 10 meters per second, you know how heavy the object will be wenn it hit's the ground?

500 kg. or atleast it feels that it's 500 kilo, so lol don't try it at home 😄

And consider the fact he caught the whole mountain without breaking it must mean that the mountain is almost just as strong as hulks body or it would fall apart, or he could smash it in half or something.

And current hulk is a way better fight than juggernaut since he been fighting on that planet, in planet hulk, so juggernaut won't take him out that quick, because hulk would be able to dodge it and he doesn't really need to build up his strenght, it can go of the scale in seconds.
That's why it's a stalemate.

no its a stalemate, since the hulksters dont like seeing hulk lose.

sorry have to go back on guard duty be back in a half hour 😉 , so can't explain it better at this moment.

guard duty?

Originally posted by Brutacus
You guy's don't get it, it's not the object it's not how big it is or how small for that matter, a object you have to lift and is on the ground will be 100 pounds and stay that way because there is no force that make's it heavier, now iff you drop something from 2 miles like the mountain, it will get heavier by how fast it drop's, that's the force, it doesn't really make it heavier but it does feel heavier because the force behind it, it's call the law of newton iff I'm not mistaken.
Like I tried to explain iff you drop something like 50 kg (sorry I use meters and kg I'm not used to use feet and pounds, but I bett you get the picture).
Ok back to what I tried to explain you drop 50 kilo's from 10 meters and it traffels 10 meters per second, you know how heavy the object will be wenn it hit's the ground?

500 kg. or atleast it feels that it's 500 kilo, so lol don't try it at home 😄

And consider the fact he caught the whole mountain without breaking it must mean that the mountain is almost just as strong as hulks body or it would fall apart, or he could smash it in half or something.

And current hulk is a way better fight than juggernaut since he been fighting on that planet, in planet hulk, so juggernaut won't take him out that quick, because hulk would be able to dodge it and he doesn't really need to build up his strenght, it can go of the scale in seconds.
That's why it's a stalemate.

Trust me people can resist alot more weight than they can in turn move.

Here is a little expriment for you to do. With a friend(Roughly equal in strength) take a shirt or towel or some kind of cloth. Place the cloth in your hands and have your friend hold the ends of it. Now with your elbows tucked in move your hands from your waist to your chest with your friend resisting you. Now at the top Lock your arms and have your friend pull your arms down without you moving them.

See which one is easier for your friend to do.

What you will find is your friend found it hrader to move your arms down while he found it easier to keep your arms from moving up.

Why is that because when you were moving up he was the one offering resistance while you were performing the lift but when he was trying to pull your arms down your were resisting.

What this shows is that a person can resist more force than they can actually move. 😉

Originally posted by bigbran
guard duty?

Yes I'm at my work now, and I'm a security guard, at a prison.

And bigbran, you say I hate to see hulk loses or won't say he will lose a fight, well ofcourse people like superman, silver surfer, or any other character that has to many feats will beat hulk, but the thing juggy has is almost the same as hulk he is know for his strenght and that he can't be hurt that's most off it so he only got feats to anger the hulk.
That's why I say stalemate.

and newjaks you say you can resist more than lift, that may be true but at one point the weight that's been dropped is like in my example 10 time's heavier and that my friend you will not be able to catch, same with a bullet in a gun, iff you shoot someone it will kill him now iff you get the bullet out of the gun and throw the bullet at the same spot at a person nothing will happen because you don't put enough force behind it.

So at one point you're correct, but with a object that drops at one point it will reach a speed that it will be harder to catch than to lift.