Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Brutacus
Yes I'm at my work now, and I'm a security guard, at a prison.

And bigbran, you say I hate to see hulk loses or won't say he will lose a fight, well ofcourse people like superman, silver surfer, or any other character that has to many feats will beat hulk, but the thing juggy has is almost the same as hulk he is know for his strenght and that he can't be hurt that's most off it so he only got feats to anger the hulk.
That's why I say stalemate.

and newjaks you say you can resist more than lift, that may be true but at one point the weight that's been dropped is like in my example 10 time's heavier and that my friend you will not be able to catch, same with a bullet in a gun, iff you shoot someone it will kill him now iff you get the bullet out of the gun and throw the bullet at the same spot at a person nothing will happen because you don't put enough force behind it.

So at one point you're correct, but with a object that drops at one point it will reach a speed that it will be harder to catch than to lift.

Let me show what I mean by outside force. For instance wind resistance is an outside force. Someone pushing something is an oustside force.
Now an object can increase under its own ability based on the shape of an object for instance a sphere cuts through wind resistance like a hot knife through butter dropped from extremely high distances they will pick up speed faster.
Now this mountain and most weighted objects such as couches have no ability to cut through wind in fact they are more susceptable to it so this mountain would only possible possess twice the force as normal.

A person can quite easily resist twice the weight of something they can lift in fact if you brace youself you can resist up to 10 times what you can lift over your head. Espically when there is a bracing spot to help such as the ground to add even more leverage to that person. Belive me I can brace around a thousand pounds on my back in a simliar fashion to the Hulk 😉

your a prison guard?
do you ever beat up some connvicts?

Originally posted by newjak86
YOu also got to factor in the fact that something when njust picked up and dropped will always fall at a constant rate no matter how heavey as long as no outside force is effecting.

Let me show what I mean by outside force. For instance wind resistance is an outside force. Someone pushing something is an oustside force.
Now an object can increase under its own ability based on the shape of an object for instance a sphere cuts through wind resistance like a hot knife through butter dropped from extremely high distances they will pick up speed faster.
Now this mountain and most weighted objects such as couches have no ability to cut through wind in fact they are more susceptable to it so this mountain would only possible possess twice the force as normal.

A person can quite easily resist twice the weight of something they can lift in fact if you brace youself you can resist up to 10 times what you can lift over your head. Espically when there is a bracing spot to help such as the ground to add even more leverage to that person. Belive me I can brace around a thousand pounds on my back in a simliar fashion to the Hulk 😉

Shame hulk had nothing to brace himself to 😉

Originally posted by Brutacus
Shame hulk had nothing to brace himself to 😉

Originally posted by bigbran
your a prison guard?
do you ever beat up some connvicts?

No I only point my finger at them and say quit it and they stop 😉 😄 , no but serious what do you think, can't really talk about it or I'm really not allowed to talk about what goes around here, what will do, but euh sure fights happen.

Originally posted by newjak86
Hulk had the ground to help barce the weight as similary I count the Hulk's own body as abracing point since Hulk has insane durability he doesn't have to worry about his bones breaking or tendons tearing so infact him just bracing acts as a focalpoint for a brace. 😉

You say you can catch 1000 pounds on you're back?

Originally posted by Brutacus
You say you can catch 1000 pounds on you're back?

Originally posted by Brutacus
You say you can catch 1000 pounds on you're back?

It's as simple as squats, and power cleans.

Juggernaut can't be hurt, but eventually Hulk is going to get so pissed he is just going to throw Juggernaut far, far away. And I don't think Juggernaut is strong enough to KO him before he gets angry.

After the first punch Hulk is going to be pissed. Then again I assume that there both already extremely angry at each other.

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector

As far as i know, both wont beable to knock each other out...
You cant throw juggernaut out of the arena because he can walk/ run on nothing (which is proved when jean grey lifts him in air but hes running forward on nothing) where as hulk can...
so it would come down to them soffocating each other some how...
and the juggernaut doesnt need air... which the hulk does which is proved wen he almost dies when juggernaut is holding his head underwater...

and say hulk found a way to hurt juggernaut some how (which he cant) or started winning the fight... that would make him happier which would make him weaker and then lose his advantage and then some...

well it would appear no 1 responded to my arguement... that usually happens wen ur right... but some 1 try convincing me hulk can win..

btw, for those who say hulk would just toss him into space, juggernaut can walk back on nothing + juggernaut could just toss hulk into space...

Walking from orbit takes aloooooooooooooooooooong time.

Hulk's body can adapt to the point where he doesn't need oxygen. And all Juggernaut is going to do is piss him off. Its going to end in a stalemate.

Originally posted by Black Dude
Walking from orbit takes aloooooooooooooooooooong time.

Hulk's body can adapt to the point where he doesn't need oxygen. And all Juggernaut is going to do is piss him off. Its going to end in a stalemate.

I kept saying stalemate from the start.

And about the catching a weight or lifting it, yes ok hulk's body is harder than the mountain so it seems, but to him catching something or lifting something doesn't really matter he's a guy with almost no limit to his strenght.

There is no limit to his strength he's unstoppable theres a reason they kicked him off the planet and not Juggernaut. Remember Juggernaut is logical meaning he has a better understanding of pain.

Hulk is a beast with mindless rage thats harder to handle in my opinion.

Originally posted by newjak86
I say I brace resist 1000 pounds on my back with a bracing point like the Hulk had 😉
Now with greater durability where I didn't have to worry about my bones breaking or my muscles tearing yes I could catch 1000

What kind of bracing point did Hulk have?

And yeah, if you were the Hulk you could easily catch 1000 pounds, but this is Hulk catching billions of tons of rock (Directly stated, even if 150 is too much, minimum 2. I'm thinking 20-50) falling from 2 miles, and wind resistance might have a small effect, but Rock is too dense for it's sixe for it to matter much.

And I don't think anyone that's not a professional can brace anything near 1k pounds, since that's half a ton.

juggernaut cannot die or be hurt because of the crystal so how can hulk win

neither can win this battle but i voted for juggernaut as a superior fighter which should have been the real question for this thread (which one is the superior fighter)

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
neither can win this battle but i voted for juggernaut as a superior fighter which should have been the real question for this thread (which one is the superior fighter)

yup juggernaut is a better fighter he was also a scientist lookin for a jewel and found the crys6tal so i think he is more than capable to whoop hulk

Hulk fans wont admit Juggernaut has the ability to Ko him early. If juggernaut wants to Ko hulk then he will Ko hulk. Thats pretty much his character he does what he wants.

Until you show me some proof that he can. Then he can't I mean feats wise for both of them its like this.

Hulk=Stronger
Juggernaut= More Durable

Which equals stalemate. You guys obviously don't know how easy it is to get angry Juggernaut is not one punching Hulk hell when Hulk first changes is is capable of taking a nuke. And after Juggs punches him once then well Hulk is now pissed.