Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by TheDecider486 pages

Yes he will be dazed just like when they fought the other time. He was to dazed from Juggernauts punches to get angry until Juggernaut stopped punching.

Originally posted by TheDecider
This is bloodlust and so juggernaut would be useing his shield making clapping/stomping useless and it wouldnt distract him. again Juggernaut KOs him in the first few minutes with a furry of punches that keeps Hulk dazed so he wouldnt even be able to get angry. When Juggernaut starts the match his main goal will be to eliminate Hulk. Juggernaut always reaches his goal. He will focus on killing the Hulk and when he wants to do something bad enough he gets the strength to do it from that focus. Its been proven because he always has the strength to do whatever he was focusing on.

Yeah, the ground jumping up and down and possibly cracking won't distract Juggs at all.

*sigh*

Originally posted by Sea King
hum well its not so much that he can call opon it its more that caytorrak will grant him more and more power if he needs it to get/do what/were he is trying to go/do. this is a proven thing cause that is what happened in the comics

When, outside of the 2 previously mentioned Power Ups?

His shield would make that pretty useless as he would walk through it even through rough terrain.

*sigh*

Its been proven because he always gets enough strength to do what needs to be accomplished. 8th he got more strength to get there, Trion he needed enough strength to get to the trion dimension and he got it.

Originally posted by TheDecider
This is bloodlust and so juggernaut would be useing his shield making clapping/stomping useless and it wouldnt distract him. again Juggernaut KOs him in the first few minutes with a furry of punches that keeps Hulk dazed so he wouldnt even be able to get angry. When Juggernaut starts the match his main goal will be to eliminate Hulk. Juggernaut always reaches his goal. He will focus on killing the Hulk and when he wants to do something bad enough he gets the strength to do it from that focus. Its been proven because he always has the strength to do whatever he was focusing on.

If his shield's up, he won't be punching any body.
Originally posted by TheDecider
Yes he will be dazed just like when they fought the other time. He was to dazed from Juggernauts punches to get angry until Juggernaut stopped punching.

He wasn't dazed, he was knocked down. After being attacked from behind no less.

Originally posted by TheDecider
Yes he will be dazed just like when they fought the other time. He was to dazed from Juggernauts punches to get angry until Juggernaut stopped punching.

Yeah, but Hulk is going to see Juggs coming, be Bloodlusted so he won't fight stupid, angry that another person is bothering him again, and more cause it's Juggernaut. ther's 100ft between them, and there are so many more ways for them to fight than coliding in the middle of the arena like you are envisioning.

Originally posted by TheDecider
Its been proven because he always gets enough strength to do what needs to be accomplished. 8th he got more strength to get there, Trion he needed enough strength to get to the trion dimension and he got it.

The same can be said for Hulk. And Trion was possessed.

Originally posted by TheDecider
Its been proven because he always gets enough strength to do what needs to be accomplished. 8th he got more strength to get there, Trion he needed enough strength to get to the trion dimension and he got it.

Thanks for giving me the 2 powerups I specifically asked excluded 😉

Any new info to add?

Incorrect. The 8th Day Saga had him admitting that something was making him more powerful, because that something needed him. Or at least that's what was implied. Trion Juggernaut, however, is 100% clear cut: Juggernaut was possessed by Cyttorak himself.

Now, as for some actual evidence....

Originally posted by Sea King
hum well its not so much that he can call opon it its more that caytorrak will grant him more and more power if he needs it to get/do what/were he is trying to go/do. this is a proven thing cause that is what happened in the comics

Actually I just noticed something. If an Outside Entity has to regulate how much energy they get, then it's Outside Help, not the completely internal powerups that True Dynamic powersets have (Silver Surfer/Hulk)

I added that anytime he needed to do something he has been able to do it. Trion may have been possessed but the point was that he wanted to go to the trion dimension and the gem gave him enough strength to do it. Why do we need more proof that he can call upon more strength? Just those two are enough i would think. He doesnt have enough appearances to do it again. But everything he has needed to do he has done when he tried to do it.

Originally posted by Dalak
Yeah, but Hulk is going to see Juggs coming, be Bloodlusted so he won't fight stupid, angry that another person is bothering him again, and more cause it's Juggernaut. ther's 100ft between them, and there are so many more ways for them to fight than coliding in the middle of the arena like you are envisioning.

UMMMMMMMMM, Major Question, the OP did not say they would start bloodlusted, so, where are you getting this bloodlusted things from.

And sonics that hurt Juggs where from nimrod, it was a high frequency wave, kinda like a dog whistle x1000. Sonic Claps would hold no effect against Juggernaut as he cannot control the wave of sound to might it tight enough to effect Juggernaut.

Also, Juggernaut healed could heal from it pretty quickly, and if he had his shield up, it wouldnt of had effected him.

So Accel, can you please post the Scan of Stan lees comment please?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
UMMMMMMMMM, Major Question, the OP did not say they would start bloodlusted, so, where are you getting this bloodlusted things from.

The forum rules. I showed this to you. You should know this. It's the same reason why we have Cain focusing his power in this fight.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
So Accel, can you please post the Scan of Stan lees comment please?

Sorry, don't have it with me.

Originally posted by TheDecider
I added that anytime he needed to do something he has been able to do it. Trion may have been possessed but the point was that he wanted to go to the trion dimension and the gem gave him enough strength to do it. Why do we need more proof that he can call upon more strength? Just those two are enough i would think. He doesnt have enough appearances to do it again. But everything he has needed to do he has done when he tried to do it.

So you're saying Cyttorak gave himself enough strength to smash through dimensions? So Cyttorak can only smash through dimensions if he calls upon.......Cyttorak?

Right. Possessed = possessed. In other words, another personality is taking over.

What qoute you guy's talking about??

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Incorrect. The 8th Day Saga had him admitting that something was making him more powerful, because that something needed him. Or at least that's what was implied. Trion Juggernaut, however, is 100% clear cut: Juggernaut was possessed by Cyttorak himself.

Now, as for some actual evidence....

well what i got from it was that he was trying to get somwere so he powered up because he needed the power up to get their. it was not the person calling him their that gave him the power and unless you can show me were he say what ever is calling me is whats makeing me more powerful then their is no reasion to believe this.

all logic would point to the gem giveing him more power because he needed it.

Originally posted by Accel
The forum rules. I showed this to you. You should know this. It's the same reason why we have Cain focusing his power in this fight.

Sorry, don't have it with me.

I want to see that quote, so until I do, Hulk does in fact, have a limit to his strength, Onslaught Saga.

Im pretty sure that it wasnt cytorrak in Cains body. It was something else hold on let me find it.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I want to see that quote, so until I do, Hulk does in fact, have a limit to his strength, Onslaught Saga.

Onslaught Saga never showed a limit to his strength. 😕