Limitless Strength + At-Will Access = Infinite Strength.
Juggs =/= Cytorrak or the Power Gem.
Juggs doesn't have infinite strength any more than Hulk does, or everyone he ever fought would have been killed in teh first punch.
And if you are arguing that Juggs can access all of that limitless strength at once then Yes you are arguing that Juggs has infinite strength.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Actually if you read the article again, he wants to believe Hulk is the strongest, but he also doesn't, He too believes Juggernaut is the Strongest. He says something like "As much as I would like to say Hulk is the Strongest....etc".Well Stan lee's opinion isn't enough then, Also, we have shown you proof that Juggernauts Strength is limitless, show me the anger then please!!!, I want to read it myself.
Also you haven't been listing to me, Hulk has to get angry to access his strength, Juggernaut can Access his strength [b]AT WILL
.AT WILL>>>>>Outside Punishment.
Think about it. [/B]
Both will be in bloodlust mode for this fight. Otherwise, Cain wouldn't even be focusing his power.
Originally posted by Dalak
Limitless Strength + At-Will Access = Infinite Strength.Juggs =/= Cytorrak or the Power Gem.
Juggs doesn't have infinite strength any more than Hulk does, or everyone he ever fought would have been killed in teh first punch.
And if you are arguing that Juggs can access all of that limitless strength at once then Yes you are arguing that Juggs has infinite strength.
But Dalak, go read Dinaflos post on the last page, he said hulk strength can increase instantaneous also, wouldn't that make it infinite.
Also, how many people has juggs downed in Just a few punches by the way. 😎
Originally posted by Apolloknight
But Dalak, go read Dinaflos post on the last page, he said hulk strength can increase instantaneous also, wouldn't that make it infinite.Also, how many people has juggs downed in Just a few punches by the way. 😎
No, that wouldn't make it infinite.
Again, it's like this:
infinite strength = neverending force.
Unlimited strength = neverending increase of force.
That's what people mean to say, in this case.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
No, that wouldn't make it infinite.Again, it's like this:
infinite strength = neverending force.
Unlimited strength = neverending increase of force.
That's what people mean to say, in this case.
😕
Sooooooooo, infinite strength equals of force that will never end, and ulimited Strength equals a never ending increase of force?
Edit: Oh yes and Dalak, could you post the Stan lee Comment please!!!
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes but Just because Hulk is bloodlusted, he not mindless, And a Bloodlusted, Very Enraged Hulk has been KO'ed before.
Hulk doesn't have to be mindless in order to become very durable. he'll keep getting angrier due to bloodlust, thus his strength and durability will keep increasing.
Bloodlust = fighting to the best of his ability.
He still starts the fight in a calm state just like Juggernaut starts off in his average state. Why would he start off enraged just because it is bloodlust? Unless you add in that he has prep time to get angry, he should start off at his base strength and durability. Juggernaut KOs him in the first few minutes with a furry of punches that keeps Hulk dazed so he wouldnt even be able to get angry. When Juggernaut starts the match his main goal will be to eliminate Hulk. Juggernaut always reaches his goal. He will focus on killing the Hulk and when he wants to do something bad enough he gets the strength to do it from that focus. Its been proven because he always has the strength to do whatever he was focusing on.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
But Dalak, go read Dinaflos post on the last page, he said hulk strength can increase instantaneous also, wouldn't that make it infinite.Also, how many people has juggs downed in Just a few punches by the way. 😎
I saw in a reply to him you made that he said the Hulk's Strength could increase, but if that isn't it please correct me.
I have a question about Juggs: Has he One-Shotted Hulk/Thor/Hercules/SIlver Surfer/Abomination and other Class 100's?
I know the Stranger, but how many other of the Big Boys has he One-Shotted?
And I mean "first blow = KO" since that seems to your argument against the Hulk.
Still, you seem to be debating that Juggernaut can become Trion at will since he can call upon all of Cytorrak's power at will, and that isn't true at all.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
😕Sooooooooo, infinite strength equals of force that will never end, and ulimited Strength equals a never ending increase of force?
In this case? Yes. Absolutely.
You can say that Hulk/Juggernaut can infinitely increase their strength, but not that they can increase their strengths to infinity. Infinity has no ending, so where does it begin?
Originally posted by TheDecider
Bloodlust = fighting to the best of his ability.He still starts the fight in a calm state just like Juggernaut starts off in his average state. Why would he start off enraged just because it is bloodlust? Unless you add in that he has prep time to get angry, he should start off at his base strength and durability. Juggernaut KOs him in the first few minutes with a furry of punches that keeps Hulk dazed so he wouldnt even be able to get angry. When Juggernaut starts the match his main goal will be to eliminate Hulk. Juggernaut always reaches his goal. He will focus on killing the Hulk and when he wants to do something bad enough he gets the strength to do it from that focus. Its been proven because he always has the strength to do whatever he was focusing on.
And of course teh Current Hulk isn't smart enough to Stomp once or clap when they are closing to distract Juggs (Don't strong enough sonics still cause Cain Pain?) to stop Juggernaut's charge?
This is at least teh 4th time I've made this point, hense my earlier one about further replies being worthless.
And at the Bell Hulk will be getting angrier, he's not goig to stay calm when he's Bloodlusted and he knows Juggs is too (Common KNowledge).
THis fight won't go down that easily.
Originally posted by TheDecider
Bloodlust = fighting to the best of his ability.He still starts the fight in a calm state just like Juggernaut starts off in his average state. Why would he start off enraged just because it is bloodlust? Unless you add in that he has prep time to get angry, he should start off at his base strength and durability. Juggernaut KOs him in the first few minutes with a furry of punches that keeps Hulk dazed so he wouldnt even be able to get angry. When Juggernaut starts the match his main goal will be to eliminate Hulk. Juggernaut always reaches his goal. He will focus on killing the Hulk and when he wants to do something bad enough he gets the strength to do it from that focus. Its been proven because he always has the strength to do whatever he was focusing on.
Originally posted by Dalak
I saw in a reply to him you made that he said the Hulk's Strength could increase, but if that isn't it please correct me.I have a question about Juggs: Has he One-Shotted Hulk/Thor/Hercules/SIlver Surfer/Abomination and other Class 100's?
I know the Stranger, but how many other of the Big Boys has he One-Shotted?
And I mean "first blow = KO" since that seems to your argument against the Hulk.
Still, you seem to be debating that Juggernaut can become Trion at will since he can call upon all of Cytorrak's power at will, and that isn't true at all.
hum well its not so much that he can call opon it its more that caytorrak will grant him more and more power if he needs it to get/do what/were he is trying to go/do. this is a proven thing cause that is what happened in the comics
Originally posted by TheDecider
No one is saying he can one shot the Hulk it will take more than that, but if Juggernaut keeps punching him Hulk wont even be able to get angry he will be to dazed and confused to do anything about it which leads to him being Koed
Originally posted by Apolloknight
😕Sooooooooo, infinite strength equals of force that will never end, and ulimited Strength equals a never ending increase of force?
Edit: Oh yes and Dalak, could you post the Stan lee Comment please!!!
I asked the poster Accel gave since he's the one that first brought it up, I've found nothing.
My arguments for Unlimited Anger lie within the human mind and it's affects when subjected to Gamma Mutation. Before getting to these boards I never heard of this Lee statement, and if you'll notice the bulk of times I've referred to the statment I've said "According to Accel".
Originally posted by TheDecider
No one is saying he can one shot the Hulk it will take more than that, but if Juggernaut keeps punching him Hulk wont even be able to get angry he will be to dazed and confused to do anything about it which leads to him being Koed
Since wenn is juggernaut someone who can punch someone fast?
This is bloodlust and so juggernaut would be useing his shield making clapping/stomping useless and it wouldnt distract him. again Juggernaut KOs him in the first few minutes with a furry of punches that keeps Hulk dazed so he wouldnt even be able to get angry. When Juggernaut starts the match his main goal will be to eliminate Hulk. Juggernaut always reaches his goal. He will focus on killing the Hulk and when he wants to do something bad enough he gets the strength to do it from that focus. Its been proven because he always has the strength to do whatever he was focusing on.
Originally posted by TheDecider
No one is saying he can one shot the Hulk it will take more than that, but if Juggernaut keeps punching him Hulk wont even be able to get angry he will be to dazed and confused to do anything about it which leads to him being Koed
Yes, people are arguing that he would one shot the Hulk, since he one-shotted Stranger.
And when has being punched stopped emotion? I can understand being too dazed to think but you are not to dazed to feel unless you are given some sort of Drug that results in that.
That's what "Anti-Depressants" and "Mood Stabilyzers" are for.