Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah but that happens to be another Goodie you've got to wait for Dinalfos
But basically this is what is said.When Demi-Gods clash
Never has such fury been witnessed on Earth before
Nice. But are they referring to the destruction of something or just the fierceness of the fight? Because shaking countless universes by colliding with another fighter sounds like it easily could do the same.
Anyway, what was the first goodie again?
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Page?
Are you blind? how many times does someone have to throw something in your face before you read it?
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Originally posted by Dalak
If 8th Day is a Powerup, then why would Narration in it app;ly to the Regular Juggernaut?And when you admit that something else is making you stronger it's not normal.
"Somethings making me that way"
Cyttorak who sustains Cains power constantly since 1964, and now you want to say in one particular comic that it's a power up?
Ok I decided to come back after thinking for a while.
1. I say Juggernaut can increase strength through focus/will and you argue i dont have enough proof. I say i do and i realized i do its just that I piece the information together using logic. You refuse to use logic in that situation and do not piece the information together. "Gee maybe since Juggernaut always has the strength to do what he wants, even trion getting through to the trion dimension, maybe its because he gains the strength when he needs it."
2. When i said Hulk cannot fight for an eternity on adreniline, you say he can and show small feats of a maximum time of a few months. Now since i have a brain and logic i pieced to together to say maybe he can last forever. Even though it is never stated he can last an eternity.
3. I could have just used your logic to say "lack of proof" and say hulk dies of exaustion. So now i ask you hulk fans to use logic and realize that Juggernaut can increase strength through focus, otherwise the theory that Hulk dies of exaustion is still plausible because i will just use "Hulk" logic back on you.
4. Since this is bloodlust, both characters use what they have. Juggernaut uses his momentum sapping shield and when hulk comes in for a punch he is completely stopped. This gives Juggernaut an option of landing a solid punch to his face
5. When a boxer is hit with a good punch he becomes dazed and that is when the other boxer realizes its time to go all out. The first boxer can only defend and cannot even realize what is happening and eventually gets Koed in that position. I have seen this happen many times and basically it could happen to the Hulk when Juggernauts shield allows him to land a solid punch that rocks the Hulk. He cannot do anything because he would be dazed.
6. POSSIBLE ways juggernaut can win- BFR(uses shield to stop hulk then has time to get a good grip on him and toss him), Early KO, Later Ko after increasing strength enough to beat hulk.
I repeat these are POSSIBLE ways. Even if it is unlikely that they can happen, it is still plausible giving Juggernaut a slim majority.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
"Somethings making me that way"Cyttorak who sustains Cains power constantly since 1964, and now you want to say in one particular comic that it's a power up?
In which case an Outside Entity choosing to give him more than his regular "Allowance" of power is outside help and therefore not allowed. In other words: An Outside Power-Up. Those are not allowed in the rules.
Originally posted by Dalak
In which case an Outside Entity choosing to give him more than his regular "Allowance" of power is outside help and therefore not allowed. In other words: An Outside Power-Up. Those are not allowed in the rules.
Yet just 4 years before stated by the Marvel editors that Cain can call upon the limitless power of Cyttorak, they show it o panel and then you say it's a power up?
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Not the Marvel editors, just current general opinion. Nothing official, just the opinion of several people who don't necessarily have anything to do with the content of the comic.
So the Hulk editor who clearly said "I would like to believe that the Hulk is the strongest but Juggernaut can call upon the limitlss power of Cyttorak" means nothing?
just saying hulk isnt invincible.
why is this thread still going?
first of all juggs is above hulks base strength.
juggs is more durible. and hulk doesnt becum so durible that he cant get hurt in the time its going to take to tee off on hulk.
personly, i think juggs takes it 6/10, but you guys wont even accept one win, so heres how it goes.
so we know hulk becums more durible, with anger, he becums stronger too. ok sure.
we know hulk has tooken some shots by thor, to little to no effect. yes, here now think of something. what was he when he took those shots?
mindless, now how long does it take to becum mindless?
a long f*cking time!!
and he started the fight as mindless, and what does he start as in this fight? normal, thats right!!
now lets look at a strength feat for juggs.
knocking stranger down with one hit, and looking like he koed him.
stranger was out, sure he got up, but he was rocked.
and that feat also showed his jumping ability.
juggs strength, matters in this fight, hulks unfortunlatly does not.
sure he can throw him around, but he not taking some serious shots by juggs. how many people have duked it out with hulk?
and saying juggs couldnt is either:
a) fantoyish.
b) underating.
hell rhino has hurt hulk, but juggs cant?!!?!?
so unless you can prove, hulk cant be koed, or hurt when hes enraged, this arguement is over!
im using this until someone responds.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Yet just 4 years before stated by the Marvel editors that Cain can call upon the limitless power of Cyttorak, they show it o panel and then you say it's a power up?
HOw many times has it ever been shown on panel?
2?
Trion and 8th Day?
Yeah I'd say those are power ups compared to normal showings.
In both cases something not of his choosing empowers him and he does things greater than past High Showings, and without those as proof the Statement has no proof.
The Gem of Cytorrak isn't the Power Gem, Souja.
Ok I decided to come back after thinking for a while.
1. I say Juggernaut can increase strength through focus/will and you argue i dont have enough proof. I say i do and i realized i do its just that I piece the information together using logic. You refuse to use logic in that situation and do not piece the information together. "Gee maybe since Juggernaut always has the strength to do what he wants, even trion getting through to the trion dimension, maybe its because he gains the strength when he needs it."
2. When i said Hulk cannot fight for an eternity on adreniline, you say he can and show small feats of a maximum time of a few months. Now since i have a brain and logic i pieced to together to say maybe he can last forever. Even though it is never stated he can last an eternity.
3. I could have just used your logic to say "lack of proof" and say hulk dies of exaustion. So now i ask you hulk fans to use logic and realize that Juggernaut can increase strength through focus, otherwise the theory that Hulk dies of exaustion is still plausible because i will just use "Hulk" logic back on you.
4. Since this is bloodlust, both characters use what they have. Juggernaut uses his momentum sapping shield and when hulk comes in for a punch he is completely stopped. This gives Juggernaut an option of landing a solid punch to his face
5. When a boxer is hit with a good punch he becomes dazed and that is when the other boxer realizes its time to go all out. The first boxer can only defend and cannot even realize what is happening and eventually gets Koed in that position. I have seen this happen many times and basically it could happen to the Hulk when Juggernauts shield allows him to land a solid punch that rocks the Hulk. He cannot do anything because he would be dazed.
6. POSSIBLE ways juggernaut can win- BFR(uses shield to stop hulk then has time to get a good grip on him and toss him), Early KO, Later Ko after increasing strength enough to beat hulk.
I repeat these are POSSIBLE ways. Even if it is unlikely that they can happen, it is still plausible giving Juggernaut a slim majority.
Originally posted by TheDecider
Ok I decided to come back after thinking for a while.1. I say Juggernaut can increase strength through focus/will and you argue i dont have enough proof. I say i do and i realized i do its just that I piece the information together using logic. You refuse to use logic in that situation and do not piece the information together. "Gee maybe since Juggernaut always has the strength to do what he wants, even trion getting through to the trion dimension, maybe its because he gains the strength when he needs it."
2. When i said Hulk cannot fight for an eternity on adreniline, you say he can and show small feats of a maximum time of a few months. Now since i have a brain and logic i pieced to together to say maybe he can last forever. Even though it is never stated he can last an eternity.
3. I could have just used your logic to say "lack of proof" and say hulk dies of exaustion. So now i ask you hulk fans to use logic and realize that Juggernaut can increase strength through focus, otherwise the theory that Hulk dies of exaustion is still plausible because i will just use "Hulk" logic back on you.
4. Since this is bloodlust, both characters use what they have. Juggernaut uses his momentum sapping shield and when hulk comes in for a punch he is completely stopped. This gives Juggernaut an option of landing a solid punch to his face
5. When a boxer is hit with a good punch he becomes dazed and that is when the other boxer realizes its time to go all out. The first boxer can only defend and cannot even realize what is happening and eventually gets Koed in that position. I have seen this happen many times and basically it could happen to the Hulk when Juggernauts shield allows him to land a solid punch that rocks the Hulk. He cannot do anything because he would be dazed.
6. POSSIBLE ways juggernaut can win- BFR(uses shield to stop hulk then has time to get a good grip on him and toss him), Early KO, Later Ko after increasing strength enough to beat hulk.
I repeat these are POSSIBLE ways. Even if it is unlikely that they can happen, it is still plausible giving Juggernaut a slim majority.
You can't even wait 20 minutes?
Geeze . . . .
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats like saying what Stan lee says = opinion
Character Creator > Editors if you want to go that route, and I still don't accept that statement without proof. My proof of his anger has been stated repeatedly besides that.
And if Accel can PM someone and find that it'd be useful, but not necessary.
