Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
So what does his durability to do with his strength? Nothing. It's a seperate spell. Unlike Hulk, Juggernaut's durability is not a consequence of his strength. It was all part of that little package.

Furthermore, you're making assumptions(like so many of you do) about Hulk that just don't ring true. He doesn't need much time to get up to Juggernaut's level at all. The more he is provoked, the faster it increases(softly tap someone in the face once, he'll become ticked or even angry, hit him hard, all the while mocking him and he's likely to snap). His strength also increases geometrically to his anger, making it instantaneous. As for his "defusion", this only happens when the "threat" is gone. As long as the fight is on, he'll remain angry.

Also, he doesn't have a limit to his anger. Because he is basically rage personified. His mind is not exactly human. Ask Stan Lee, Sal Buscema, Peter David and the other Hulk writers. It really doesn't take long before Hulk overpowers Juggernaut in the strenght department. It requires, perhaps a lot of rage, but it doesn't take long. Especially not in a fight. If you wanna go by the comics, then we saw that it took Hulk only a second to rise from irritation to sufficient rage to render the
Juggernaut's strength useless. Without leverage.

Btw, you won't hear me say that Juggernaut doesn't have feats. It's just that he won't top the Hulk in strength.

I'm sorry, but you would have to show me an instance where the Hulk instantly became super angry, and ultimately powerful.

Spoiler:
Stop this thread it is getting boring

Originally posted by Accel
It was created by the Deviants, who most likely know the Celestials better than any body. Not to mention it was even stated again by the narration.

Whether it's hyperbole or not is irrelevant, as Hulk has still overcome far worse than Thor, such as the matterantimatter feat (which requires infinite strength), the sonic blast that destroyed an entire cosmos, blasts from the Celestial order, etc.

Thor has also taken shots from Celestials.
Thor has taken blows from a creature the size of the planet Earth, (Midgard Serpent).
Thor has survived Nuclear Blasts, at ground zero.
And, the matter-antimatter feat is the same as the one where he lifted an entire mountain without sinking into it.
Silly, and should not be allowed in the forum.
It is like showing me that a 3 year old girl can defeat Galactus in H2H, because some tard scribbled it into a comic book.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm sorry, but you would have to show me an instance where the Hulk instantly became super angry, and ultimately powerful.

The Juggernaut vs. Hulk fight, for starters. Also, check the respect thread.

Or, alternatively, read the comics.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Thor has also taken shots from Celestials.
Thor has taken blows from a creature the size of the planet Earth, (Midgard Serpent).
Thor has survived Nuclear Blasts, at ground zero.
And, the matter-antimatter feat is the same as the one where he lifted an entire mountain without sinking into it.
Silly, and should not be allowed in the forum.
It is like showing me that a 3 year old girl can defeat Galactus in H2H, because some tard scribbled it into a comic book.

Another "tard" made Thor take blows from the Midgard Serpent.

Anyway, you don't get to decide what is allowed and what's not.

Uhh its harder to just move aside lots of pieces of rubble, than if it were just one big piece to move aside. And he just got his powers and didnt know what he was capable of.

J2 was beating the Hulk until he decided to slow down and see if he hurt him. This let Hulk recover and then get angry and recover from the daze he was in. Classic Juggs would keep pounding on him and Hulk would go down.

. I say Juggernaut can increase strength through focus/will and you argue i dont have enough proof. I say i do and i realized i do its just that I piece the information together using logic. You refuse to use logic in that situation and do not piece the information together. "Gee maybe since Juggernaut always has the strength to do what he wants, even trion getting through to the trion dimension, maybe its because he gains the strength when he needs it."

2. When i said Hulk cannot fight for an eternity on adreniline, you say he can and show small feats of a maximum time of a few months. Now since i have a brain and logic i pieced to together to say maybe he can last forever. Even though it is never stated he can last an eternity.

3. I could have just used your logic to say "lack of proof" and say hulk dies of exaustion. So now i ask you hulk fans to use logic and realize that Juggernaut can increase strength through focus, otherwise the theory that Hulk dies of exaustion is still plausible because i will just use "Hulk" logic back on you.

4. Since this is bloodlust, both characters use what they have. Juggernaut uses his momentum sapping shield and when hulk comes in for a punch he is completely stopped. This gives Juggernaut an option of landing a solid punch to his face

5. When a boxer is hit with a good punch he becomes dazed and that is when the other boxer realizes its time to go all out. The first boxer can only defend and cannot even realize what is happening and eventually gets Koed in that position. I have seen this happen many times and basically it could happen to the Hulk when Juggernauts shield allows him to land a solid punch that rocks the Hulk. He cannot do anything because he would be dazed.

6. POSSIBLE ways juggernaut can win- BFR(uses shield to stop hulk then has time to get a good grip on him and toss him), Early KO, Later Ko after increasing strength enough to beat hulk.

I repeat these are POSSIBLE ways. Even if it is unlikely that they can happen, it is still plausible giving Juggernaut a slim majority.

Originally posted by TheDecider
J2 was beating the Hulk until he decided to slow down and see if he hurt him. This let Hulk recover and then get angry and recover from the daze he was in. Classic Juggs would keep pounding on him and Hulk would go down.

Uhm, Hulk was basically playing with him during the whole fight.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Another "tard" made Thor take blows from the Midgard Serpent.

Anyway, you don't get to decide what is allowed and what's not.

...um, Oh Yeah?!

hehe

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Uhm, Hulk was basically playing with him during the whole fight.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
No he wasn't

Yes he was, I learned that whenever Hulk doesnt go straight to celestial level strength he is going easy on people. 😱

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes he was, I learned that whenever Hulk doesnt go straight to celestial level strength he is going easy on people. 😱

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
No he wasn't

Yep, he was.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes he was, I learned that whenever Hulk doesnt go straight to celestial level strength he is going easy on people. 😱

Spoiler:
THAT IS WHY HULK THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yes he was, I learned that whenever Hulk doesnt go straight to celestial level strength he is going easy on people. 😱

Didn't say going easy. I said he was playing. 😉

Originally posted by juggernaut66666

Spoiler:
THAT IS WHY HULK THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS

now00t

Jgugernaut is teh unstopabble!!!!11!!

Much better, eh?

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Didn't say going easy. I said he was playing. 😉

😐

Originally posted by Apolloknight
😐

Oh, I'm sure that went over your head. Doesn't matter, I should've seen that coming. My bad.