Originally posted by Dinalfos
Oh, I'm sure that went over your head. Doesn't matter, I should've seen that coming. My bad.
I think you went over your own head here, umm, How is playing with somebody, and going easy on them any different?
Because I can play with somebody in lets say, madden 07, or instead go easy on them, and still achieve the same effect.
I don't care to debate anymore, just make fun of the things you say. 😉
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I think you went over your own head here, umm, How is playing with somebody, and going easy on them any different?Because I can play with somebody in lets say, madden 07, or instead go easy on them, and still achieve the same effect.
I don't care to debate anymore, just make fun of the things you say. 😉
Originally posted by Apolloknight
I think you went over your own head here, umm, How is playing with somebody, and going easy on them any different?Because I can play with somebody in lets say, madden 07, or instead go easy on them, and still achieve the same effect.
I don't care to debate anymore, just make fun of the things you say. 😉
Playing with someone has different connotations in the context of a fight. I can be toying with you, taking all your punches, belitteling you, making you feel uncertain, making you feel pain, not taking you serious etc. All because it would amuse me/not-amuse you.
That's not exactly the same as going easy on someone. Pulling punches, trying to calm that person etc.
And yeah, I'm tired of listening to your crap too.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Playing with someone has different connotations in the context of a fight. I can be toying with you, taking all your punches, belitteling you, making you feel uncertain, making you feel pain, not taking you serious etc. All because it would amuse me/not-amuse you.That's not exactly the same as going easy on someone. Pulling punches, trying to calm that person etc.
And yeah, I'm tired of listening to your crap too.
So Hulk fights for amusment these days?
Originally posted by Apolloknight
So Hulk fights for amusment these days?
It doesn't have to be amusement per se, but it could be. It could also be a seething hatred or contempt, but that's clearly not the case here. Well, he sort of does look down on him, but he also said he admired him for his determination. Or something.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
It doesn't have to be amusement per se, but it could be. It could also be a seething hatred or contempt, but that's clearly not the case here. Well, he sort of does look down on him, but he also said he admired him for his determination. Or something.
Really, does he say that?
He said he wanted a sure win?
He drag him out the water, pretended to save him, then proceeded to hit him into a mountain?
Funny as hell if you ask me, but not quite holding back.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
Really, does he say that?He said he wanted a sure win?
He drag him out the water, pretended to save him, then proceeded to hit him into a mountain?
Funny as hell if you ask me, but not quite holding back.
Didn't say holding back, I SAID PLAYING.
Like you said, he pretended to save, made him believe in it too, and then hit him straight into a mountain. He also calls him kid, showing that he didn't take him seriously. He didn't pull his punches, oh no, he used them to humiliate him. In a way. That's what I call playing.
This was simply not a serious fight. Hell, half of the time was spent comparing him to his father.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Why on earth would I care what you posted or what you explained?
Originally posted by Horrificus
You have no proof of anything you just typed. By proof, I mean situations in books, statements by writers. Not something you saw the Bi-Beast say! Hehe. Holy dork.
However, if it’ll make ya happy, I’ll try any way. Here he is pushing the matterantimatter spheres apart. Why? Why do prove he’s the strongest around of course.
http://img104.exs.cx/img104/2246/antimatter18zf.jpg
In IH vol2 # 543, a character named Cary, who had gotten to know Hulk pretty well by that point, figured him out, basically stating, “You need the violence. You need to show you’re the strongest one there is.”
Originally posted by Horrificus
We don't even know what Juggs "levels" are, except that we have seen that when the flood gates are opened, the Cytorrak power makes him physically able to tear through reality itself.
And tearing through time/dimensional barriers/reality isn’t all that special when it’s been done before several times. Even Hulk’s punched through a time-storm.
Originally posted by Horrificus
And, if what you say is true, how come the ENTIRE point to his stories, are the slow, plodding build-up that shows him usually on the ropes, getting angry, until eventually, he finally defeats a more powerful foe, if he survives or stays conscious long enough?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Unless you want to show me that nobody has ever knocked him out before he got his strength up.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Anyway, I don't care about your opinion or interpretation. Show a feat, a situation, or a writers statement.Everything I have stated is based on the three things I require from you.
Here, Beyonder actually probes Hulk with his cosmic powers
and sees he has no limit…
In other words, this wasn’t stated by any one who just looked at Hulk or fought him, but someone who literally examined him with his cosmic abilities and saw he didn’t have a limit.
Then there’s the matterantimatter feat…
The attraction between these two forces is irresistible, meaning one would need infinite strength to accomplish this. Hulk pulled it off just fine so…
And just for the hell of it, here he is breaking out of a sphere that was designed to turn its victim’s strength against it (not even Strange’s magic could overcome it)…
This basically implies that Hulk is stronger than himself. Go figure… srug
And then there are those several quotes from comics, whether stated by the narration or other characters, which state he has no limit to his rage. Whether you consider than hyperbole or not, they’re much more than what you’ve provided.
You said you don’t like theories or opinions, so if you believe he has a limit, prove it. I’ve proved he doesn’t have a limit, so unless you provide evidence that overrides my own, your statements won’t matter. Don’t just go around saying Hulk doesn’t have unlimited strength because of whatever.
Originally posted by Horrificus
I'm sorry, but you would have to show me an instance where the Hulk instantly became super angry, and ultimately powerful.
If that's not good enough for any one, in Order #4, he manages to break out of the Surfer's barrier in mere moments (these same barriers have managed to resist the gravity of black holes without problems).
In IH vol. 2 #270, he fights Abomination, who starts off twice as strong as he is and quickly rises to his level and beyond.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Thor has also taken shots from Celestials.
Thor has taken blows from a creature the size of the planet Earth, (Midgard Serpent).
Thor has survived Nuclear Blasts, at ground zero.
Originally posted by Horrificus
And, the matter-antimatter feat is the same as the one where he lifted an entire mountain without sinking into it.
Silly, and should not be allowed in the forum.
It is like showing me that a 3 year old girl can defeat Galactus in H2H, because some tard scribbled it into a comic book.
Originally posted by Accel
In IH: 242, he takes only moments to break a device powerful enough to stand up to Celestials.If that's not good enough for any one, in Order #4, he manages to break out of the Surfer's barrier in mere moments (these same barriers have managed to resist the gravity of black holes without problems).
In IH vol. 2 #270, he fights Abomination, who starts off twice as strong as he is and quickly rises to his level and beyond.
Eh, sorry that's not enough proof for me. 😬
Originally posted by TheDecider
J2 was beating the Hulk until he decided to slow down and see if he hurt him. This let Hulk recover and then get angry and recover from the daze he was in. Classic Juggs would keep pounding on him and Hulk would go down.
This either means J2's punches had no effect at all or Hulk can recover instantly after each punch. Pick one.
Originally posted by Apolloknight
So Hulk fights for amusment these days?
Yeah, I think that is where his argument died.
Hulk does not play around, or hold back or anything. Even when he fought Juggernaut without his armor on, and was getting the snot beaten out of him, he was not holding back.
Juggs just got the drop on him, and Hulk was not ready for the beating he took. Hulk was not holding back. That period of Hulk books shows a very cold, cut throat, unfriendly Hulk.
He was not nice to guys that beat him up out of worry for their health.
Hulk does not play with people. He either gets beat up, or he wins.
No excuses.
