Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Accel486 pages

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Cool, if you can post it i will accept it, but until you do, well, you know how it is!! 😉

I don't have access to a scanner. I honestly don't see why my credibiliy has to be challenegd at every turn. I have no reason to lie about this.

Just go pick it up and see for yourself. Or take my word for it. Whichever works.

Originally posted by Accel
I don't have access to my comics right now, but I believe it was in the letter section of issue #461.
Dammit Accel. #461 is the only Hulk issue I am missing in a huge run I have.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Dammit Accel. #461 is the only Hulk issue I am missing in a huge run I have.

Coincidence? tongue_ss

Originally posted by Accel
The hypocrisy on this forum can be downright staggering sometimes.

Ha!
Why am I a "hypocrite" now?

You can't prove what you are saying. That's all there is to it.
And, no. I am not proving your statements wrong, because it has already been done. You are just saying things that are your opinions, and demanding to be proven wrong.
You aren't showing any proof.
The responsibility is on you to backup your statements.

This is the most dull fight on KMC... strength against strength... how utterly boring.... why are you all so interested in it after over 400 pages of repeating the same old stuff?

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Originally posted by Horrificus
Ha!
Why am I a "hypocrite" now?

You can't prove what you are saying. That's all there is to it.
And, no. I am not proving your statements wrong, because it has already been done. You are just saying things that are your opinions, and demanding to be proven wrong.
You aren't showing any proof.
The responsibility is on you to backup your statements.


I have backed up my statements. Yet, you'll ignore them and deny any thing that has even been shown to be true in comics about Hulk. Then one scan of the opinion of some editors and you'll accept it in a instant.

You say you hate theories, yet if any thing your claims are theories compared to the proof I posted.

That, my friend, is what we call hypocrisy. Also bias.

horrificus has backed up his statements.

even marvel thinks classic juggs is stronger than hulk.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah, I think that is where his argument died.
Hulk does not play around, or hold back or anything. Even when he fought Juggernaut without his armor on, and was getting the snot beaten out of him, he was not holding back.
Juggs just got the drop on him, and Hulk was not ready for the beating he took. Hulk was not holding back. That period of Hulk books shows a very cold, cut throat, unfriendly Hulk.
He was not nice to guys that beat him up out of worry for their health.

Hulk does not play with people. He either gets beat up, or he wins.
No excuses.

Did you even read the comic? Have you ever read any Hulk comic at all?

Like I said, he wasn't holding back in the J2 fight. But he does sometimes pull his punches.

Christ, why do juggernaut fans have such a hard time with, you know, reading?

Originally posted by Apolloknight

Can this debate die now?

Your ass has been handed on that one. Try again.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Your ass has been handed on that one. Try again.

How did my ass get handed to me on something I did not say, but Marvel HQ said.

What did you hand Marvel HQ their ass?

Btw, that "current" opinion seems to have changed within the next three years 😆

Not surprising, since it changed before. But there are more flaws to the article.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
How did my ass get handed to me on something I did not say, but Marvel HQ said.

What did you hand Marvel HQ their ass?

Marvel HQ didn't even literally say, it was just an assessment made by the editor. It's not an official statement, otherwise we would have seen it. Also, what does Marvel HQ mean? It's kind of vague. Also, why does he specifically mention "current" and "opinion"? Because it's official? It's not. Also, why did this opinion change?

You got your ass handed because you're clinging to a piece of evidence that is too flimsy to use. Especially since it's countered by Juggernaut's comic book performance. There's not ONE shred of evidence that his strength is unlimited or that he's stronger than Hulk.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Marvel HQ didn't even literally say, it was just an assessment made by the editor. It's not an official statement, otherwise we would have seen it. Also, what does Marvel HQ mean? It's kind of vague. Also, why does he specifically mention "current" and "opinion"? Because it's official? It's not. Also, why did this opinion change?

You got your ass handed because you're clinging to a piece of evidence that is too flimsy to use. Especially since it's countered by Juggernaut's comic book performance. There's not ONE shred of evidence that his strength is unlimited or that he's stronger than Hulk.

I understand its not official, but people in Marvel HQ agree juggernauts strength is in fact limitless.

Sorry, its true. I could care less if you wanna factor in Hulk, but Juggernauts Strength is limitless. You seem to be the Only Hulk fan, and probably only person on this forum who wont accept it.

Also If you don't wanna accept that, there is not one shred of evidence to suggest Hulks strength is unlimited, since he was defeated and KO'ed many times by hero's whom I know you tired of hearing about.

And just because it said he had unlimited strength in comics don't matter also, because so has juggernaut, his punches could shatter planets, and his fight with the exemplars was the greatest fury ever unleashed on earth!!!

Hey, go figure.

But none of this matters right??!! 😉

hulk ko'ed the juggernaut with a punch and juggernut almsot beat the hulk senseless where red skull stopped him they are pretty evenly matched but as juggeranut's power is from a magical source therefore magically limitless juggeraut would take it as he has the potential of 8th day juggeranut and trion juggeranut.

if its classic they are evenly matched , whcih juggernaut having a durability advantage

if its the jobbernaut (current) hulk takes it

but realistically juggernaut would take it

but from the poll hulk wins

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Marvel HQ didn't even literally say, it was just an assessment made by the editor. It's not an official statement, otherwise we would have seen it. Also, what does Marvel HQ mean? It's kind of vague. Also, why does he specifically mention "current" and "opinion"? Because it's official? It's not. Also, why did this opinion change?

You got your ass handed because you're clinging to a piece of evidence that is too flimsy to use. Especially since it's countered by Juggernaut's comic book performance. There's not ONE shred of evidence that his strength is unlimited or that he's stronger than Hulk.

After Re-reading your post I just realized how (trying to clean up so staying away from name calling) you sound.

Gesh, I mean, What does Marvel HQ mean?

Did you really Just ask that?

Current Opinion?

Wasn't Hulk first Introduced?

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I understand its not official, but people in Marvel HQ agree juggernauts strength is in fact limitless.

Sorry, its true. I could care less if you wanna factor in Hulk, but Juggernauts Strength is limitless. You seem to be the Only Hulk fan, and probably only person on this forum who wont accept it.

Also If you don't wanna accept that, there is not one shred of evidence to suggest Hulks strength is unlimited, since he was defeated and KO'ed many times by hero's whom I know you tired of hearing about.

And just because it said he had unlimited strength in comics don't matter also, because so has juggernaut, his punches could shatter planets, and his fight with the exemplars was the greatest fury ever unleashed on earth!!!

Hey, go figure.

But none of this matters right??!! 😉

Tsbeendone.

We need to stop repeating ourselves.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
After Re-reading your post I just realized how (trying to clean up so staying away from name calling) you sound.

Gesh, I mean, What does Marvel HQ mean?

Did you really Just ask that?

Current Opinion?

Wasn't Hulk first Introduced?

Yep, that sounds like Apolloknight trying to get a grasp of something.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Yep, that sounds like Apolloknight trying to get a grasp of something.

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Im not the one trying to get a grasp of what Marvel HQ means!!!!

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Originally posted by Apolloknight
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Im not the one trying to get a grasp of what Marvel HQ means!!!!

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So when did we hear an official statement from Marvel? It was ONE editor's assessment. ONE. "Current opinion" means majority of opinions. But who's opinions are we talking about? And what happens when they get a few new employees? Hell, even the the care taker could theoretically throw off the balance, since it is never stated what "current opinion" means. I wil accept clear cut evidence, though.

But hey, you're free to believe whatever you want. I mean, he's your favorite character and all.