Originally posted by carver9
So you believe Juggernaut can overpower Hulk while proceeding to punch him in the head? Would you like to compare strength fts?
Strength feats are irrelevant when it's already on panel that Jugs is more than capable of hurting Hulk. All he has to do is get enough good shots in to Hulk's head.
A few like these should do the trick:
WTF...that wasn't even Juggernaut...Trion took control of his body which lead to what you just posted. Someones desperate. Now again, how is Juggernaut overpowering WWH to pull off scrambling his brain?. You bringing up War Hulk doesn't help your argument since War Hulk isnt as powerful as WWH.
Also, Bran was making fun of your post in a sarcastic way. The guy can be an a** when he wants to be.
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Originally posted by Odekahn
Strength feats are irrelevant when it's already on panel that Jugs is more than capable of hurting Hulk. All he has to do is get enough good shots in to Hulk's head.A few like these should do the trick:
Anyone got a scan of Red She-Hulk punching her way through dimensions?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I do, but my laptop is like at least 20 feet away.Miss America is also literally kicking across actual full sized universes like every issue though.
Yup. She even punched out a black hole.
Fun fact: She regularly beats up Loki and he never even has so much as a scratch.
I think what we can really draw away from all of this is that Marvel's characters are much stronger then DC's.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusShe also one shot killed an other dimensional War feeding God.
Yup. She even punched out a black hole.Fun fact: She regularly beats up Loki and he never even has so much as a scratch.
I think what we can really draw away from all of this is that Marvel's characters are much stronger then DC's.
Meh, that's more of her holding back than anything. Kid Loki isn't anything special in stats. He's like class 10 or something if I remember a feat correctly.
Originally posted by carver9
WTF...that wasn't even Juggernaut...Trion took control of his body which lead to what you just posted. Someones desperate. Now again, how is Juggernaut overpowering WWH to pull off scrambling his brain?. You bringing up War Hulk doesn't help your argument since War Hulk isnt as powerful as WWH.Also, Bran was making fun of your post in a sarcastic way. The guy can be an a** when he wants to be.
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I was aware what he was doing. I thought it was funny, so I laughed. Then I was playing up the point of amped characters and giving credit of their feats to their non amped counter parts.
It was a joke, I'm not reopening talking about War Hulk. Pr said to drop it. It's not usable.
I'm desperate? I couldn't care less who would win in a fight, I'm just telling you who I believe would win and why.
And it's damaging Hulk's brain that is key. Hit him hard enough in the head, repeatedly, and you will likely exhaust him the same way he did to Logan.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
She also one shot killed an other dimensional War feeding God.Meh, that's more of her holding back than anything. Kid Loki isn't anything special in stats. He's like class 10 or something if I remember a feat correctly.
Yeah, she's pretty tough.
What feat would that be? The only thing I remember is him being zapped with lightning by the sister of fates and being completely undamaged. He said something along the lines of him being a god, it would take far more then lightning to harm him. All in all, he seems pretty durable despite being a kid although doesn't seem to have much in the way of physical strength.
Originally posted by Odekahn
I was aware what he was doing. I thought it was funny, so I laughed. Then I was playing up the point of amped characters and giving credit of their feats to their non amped counter parts.It was a joke, I'm not reopening talking about War Hulk. Pr said to drop it. It's not usable.
I'm desperate? I couldn't care less who would win in a fight, I'm just telling you who I believe would win and why.
And it's damaging Hulk's brain that is key. Hit him hard enough in the head, repeatedly, and you will likely exhaust him the same way he did to Logan.
Prove that the same thing that happened to Wolverine will happen to Hulk.
Originally posted by Odekahn
I was aware what he was doing. I thought it was funny, so I laughed. Then I was playing up the point of amped characters and giving credit of their feats to their non amped counter parts.It was a joke, I'm not reopening talking about War Hulk. Pr said to drop it. It's not usable.
I'm desperate? I couldn't care less who would win in a fight, I'm just telling you who I believe would win and why.
And it's damaging Hulk's brain that is key. Hit him hard enough in the head, repeatedly, and you will likely exhaust him the same way he did to Logan.
The Hulk is stronger than Logan and Cain. how is he going to be beating on the Hulk like the Hulk beat on Logan? i could see what you mean if we were talking about RK Thor hitting the Hulk in the head, but Cain isn't nearly powerful enough to toy with a guy that he could not even push around.
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk is stronger than Logan and Cain. how is he going to be beating on the Hulk like the Hulk beat on Logan? i could see what you mean if we were talking about RK Thor hitting the Hulk in the head, but Cain isn't nearly powerful enough to toy with a guy that he could not even push around.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Cain can rag doll Hulk like what happened to Logan. I'm just saying Juggernaut is strong enough to hurt the Hulk and the Hulk showed us a way to overcome an opponents healing factor. Granted, it would take more punishment to put down Hulk than Wolverine, but it's still a sound strategy. If the conditions of that fight were to continue and only KO or Death could end it, I have to go Jugs.
I don't think it would be easy. I just think its a matter of inevitability. Eventually, Hulk is going to wear down imo.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Cain can rag doll Hulk like what happened to Logan. I'm just saying Juggernaut is strong enough to hurt the Hulk and the Hulk showed us a way to overcome an opponents healing factor. Granted, it would take more punishment to put down Hulk than Wolverine, but it's still a sound strategy. If the conditions of that fight were to continue and only KO or Death could end it, I have to go Jugs.I don't think it would be easy. I just think its a matter of inevitability. Eventually, Hulk is going to wear down imo.
At the end of WW Hulk when the Hulk went postal, Cain would likely not even be able to hurt him. Let's get one thing straight, it has been determined on panel that with a high enough adrenaline level rushing within the Hulk's body, he not only becomes stronger, but he also becomes more durable. His strength level increases his stats accordingly(speed, durability, strength, endurance, pain threshold.. etc..).
Cain hits harder than many class 100's due to natural body armor (toughness), which means that he doesn't have to hold back for fear of shattering his fists unlike Bi-Beast, but he still does not possess the strength to do any lasting damage on this version of the Hulk. This is if Banner decided to let go, and fight him to the best of his ability, and we aren't attempting a nerf via low balling the shit out of him.
I'm not entirely sure if you are able to see this credible evidence which was on panel however.
Originally posted by Stoic
At the end of WW Hulk when the Hulk went postal, Cain would likely not even be able to hurt him. Let's get one thing straight, it has been determined on panel that with a high enough adrenaline rushing within the Hulk's body, he not only becomes stronger, but he also becomes more durable. His strength level increases his stats accordingly(speed, durability, strength, endurance, pain threshold.. etc..).Cain hits harder than many class 100's due to natural body armor (toughness), which means that he doesn't have to hold back for fear of shattering his fists unlike Bi-Beast, but he still does not possess the strength to do any lasting damage on this version of the Hulk. This is if Banner decided to let go, and fight him to the best of his ability, and we aren't attempting a nerf via low balling the shit out of him.
I'm not entirely sure if you are able to see this credible evidence which was on panel however.
I've read it. The only question I have been answering is if the fight between the two had continued during that particular scene.
Originally posted by Odekahn
I've read it. The only question I have been answering is if the fight between the two had continued during that particular scene.
if the battle had continued this would mean that the Hulk would have had another mindset going on within his mind. So let's say that Banner blamed Cain for Caiera's death, this would mean that he would bring his strength level up above what he was using during their brief tussle. Have you read heart of the Monster? Cain is not as strong as the Hulk, and if he was, the Hulk can continue to amp. This particular version of the Hulk could consciously control his adrenaline levels. When did Cain ever hit the ground and cause inactive volcanoes to erupt?
Originally posted by Stoic
if the battle had continued this would mean that the Hulk would have had another mindset going on within his mind. So let's say that Banner blamed Cain for Caiera's death, this would mean that he would bring his strength level up above what he was using during their brief tussle. Have you read heart of the Monster? Cain is not as strong as the Hulk, and if he was, the Hulk can continue to amp. This particular version of the Hulk could consciously control his adrenaline levels. When did Cain ever hit the ground and cause inactive volcanoes to erupt?
But Banner didn't and doesn't blame Cain for her death. Even if the fight continued, he still wouldn't have blamed Cain for it, so it's not accurate to assume Hulk would be fighting under that assumption.
No, I haven't read HOtM yet.