Originally posted by KillAll
thats also why war hulk would have been able to cut him with his sword. because he was perfectly capable of charging his sword with the same energies that nullified juggernauts magics.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Well we don't know that for sure. Maybe War Hulk could, maybe he couldn't. Nobody can prove it.
no we do know for sure. hulk was able to break the crimson bands of cyttorak funneling this energy (the same bands that power juggernaut) and he was also able to stop juggernauts charge with said same energy.
he would have been able to cut him. there is no doubt in my mind.
Originally posted by KillAll
no we do know for sure. hulk was able to break the crimson bands of cyttorak funneling this energy (the same bands that power juggernaut) and he was also able to stop juggernauts charge with said same energy.he would have been able to cut him. there is no doubt in my mind.
It would most likely grow back though? giljotiini
Hulk would win; He is faster and way smarter than Juggernaut. Don't believe me? Ask Marvel.
http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm
1 equals human level or less
7 equals highest in the universe.
War Hulk couldn't cut off Juggernaut's head; he's too invulnerable, but since when does Juggernaut regenerate?
Originally posted by supessucks
Hulk would win; He is faster and way smarter than Juggernaut. Don't believe me? Ask Marvel.http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm
1 equals human level or less
7 equals highest in the universe.War Hulk couldn't cut off Juggernaut's head; he's too invulnerable, but since when does Juggernaut regenerate?
a savage hulk is not smarter than juggernaut, hello "hulk no like hulk smash"
also Deadpools intelegence isnt hight and he outsmarted hulk, book smarts has nothing to do with fighting experience.
Being fast wont determine the fight hes not that much faster than juggernaut, he isnt fast as light or sound so juggernaut wont miss punches. I know he can run fast, but he isnt that kind of fast do you understand what im saying? If you watch yuyu hakusho, you will know what im saying, he isnt hiei fast he is more like a straight away runner.
This would be a straight up fight, boxing no speed will be required unless hulk is looking to run away. j/k
Originally posted by supessucks
Hulk would win; He is faster and way smarter than Juggernaut. Don't believe me? Ask Marvel.http://www.marvel.com/universe/index.htm
1 equals human level or less
7 equals highest in the universe.War Hulk couldn't cut off Juggernaut's head; he's too invulnerable, but since when does Juggernaut regenerate?
Whether War would've been able to cut Juggernaut or not is debateable, since the celestial energy allowed him to stop Juggernaut's forward movement, chances are he could've used that same energy to take his head as well. It's also debateable whether it would've actually killed him or not, which I doubt. And, Juggernaut's always been able to regenerate. When Shatterstar jabbed him in the eye with his sword, Juggernaut grew his eye back a couple of panels later. When D'Spayre mystically removed Juggernaut's flesh from his bones when he was depowered, he grew all the flesh back when his power was restored.
in that pic doesnt look like hulks hurt kill all
* hulk is stronger and will do the impossible and hurt juggie as juggie is a bit part character who hasnt even got logical powers, ( foree field etc , rubs in a certain direction, ooohhh scary
*war trashed juggie live with it, its in the comics, juggie is in fear of his life, and no psychic manouvers at all.
* savage hulk could get just as strong as war hulk
*who keeps saying he would have a limit to his anger, this is a comic, in reality how likely is it to pick up a magic gem u doughnut.
hulk is durable enough to be unharmed by juggie, savage not prof hulk as prof hulk seems to keep popping up as an example
KillAll: He's "potentially" stronger, at base strength we already established the Hulk being "slightly" weaker...And posting that pic isn't the best of ideas, it looks to me like their "teaming up" just to fight the hulk...If Jugg's so "almighty" then why is he reduced to gang banging the hulk along with some nobody(Absorbing Man?)...
You guy's say there is no fair argument about the hulk beating Juggernaut but WHERE is a fair argument of Juggernaut beating the hulk..Come Come now, you have to come up with something more than Juggernaut having "physical invulnerability", that is overruled All the time in the world of comics..He may be stronger at base strength but like I said before and I'll say it again the hulk's power is going to keep rising constantly while Jugg's power is going to stay the same until Hulk's power catches up and "dwarfs" his...
And saying the Juggernaut is going to "knock out" the hulk before his power dwarfs his is a weak assumption, if the avengers, thor, the fantastic four, and Onslaught(Marvel's first stringers) couldn't "knock him out" before he got "extremely" mad then what makes you think the Juggernaut can?? Out of all those previous battles the Juggernaut couldn't knock Hulk out cold so what makes you guys just up and decide he can do this!!
I don't care how "mystically" powered up the Juggernaut is or how impervious he is to pain, "its a comic book" for crying out loud, things like that are "overridden" ALL THE TIME...The hulk is way to high on the food chain to be simply beaten blow for blow by some bully turned hired mercenary whom was reduced to begging for his very life..
You guy's can "intellectual"(if thats possible using comics) and tally the votes against the Hulk all you want but until I see either:
1)Juggernaut just simply knocking the hulk unconscious in a battle and walking away..OR
2)Any bio or "credited" data that states the Juggernauts power being "infinite"..
without those two factors the Juggernaut is bound to fighting a losing battle..Yeah Marco has perks but the hulk has "more", the hulk's more versatile..I see it like this:
Hulk Strength: 100+(and rising) Jugg Strength:100
Hulk Speed: 50 Jugg Speed:25(slow)
Hulk agility:50 Jugg Agility:15
Hulk healing:100+(and rising) Jugg healing: 50(being generous)
Hulk durability:100 Juggs Durability: 100
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
KillAll: He's "potentially" stronger, at base strength we already established the Hulk being "slightly" weaker...And posting that pic isn't the best of ideas, it looks to me like their "teaming up" just to fight the hulk...If Jugg's so "almighty" then why is he reduced to gang banging the hulk along with some nobody(Absorbing Man?)...You guy's say there is no fair argument about the hulk beating Juggernaut but WHERE is a fair argument of Juggernaut beating the hulk..Come Come now, you have to come up with something more than Juggernaut having "physical invulnerability", that is overruled All the time in the world of comics..He may be stronger at base strength but like I said before and I'll say it again the hulk's power is going to keep rising constantly while Jugg's power is going to stay the same until Hulk's power catches up and "dwarfs" his...
And saying the Juggernaut is going to "knock out" the hulk before his power dwarfs his is a weak assumption, if the avengers, thor, the fantastic four, and Onslaught(Marvel's first stringers) couldn't "knock him out" before he got "extremely" mad then what makes you think the Juggernaut can?? Out of all those previous battles the Juggernaut couldn't knock Hulk out cold so what makes you guys just up and decide he can do this!!
I don't care how "mystically" powered up the Juggernaut is or how impervious he is to pain, "its a comic book" for crying out loud, things like that are "overridden" ALL THE TIME...The hulk is way to high on the food chain to be simply beaten blow for blow by some bully turned hired mercenary whom was reduced to begging for his very life..
You guy's can "intellectual"(if thats possible using comics) and tally the votes against the Hulk all you want but until I see either:
1)Juggernaut just simply knocking the hulk unconscious in a battle and walking away..OR
2)Any bio or "credited" data that states the Juggernauts power being "infinite"..without those two factors the Juggernaut is bound to fighting a losing battle..Yeah Marco has perks but the hulk has "more", the hulk's more versatile..I see it like this:
Hulk Strength: 100+(and rising) Jugg Strength:100
Hulk Speed: 50 Jugg Speed:25(slow)
Hulk agility:50 Jugg Agility:15
Hulk healing:100+(and rising) Jugg healing: 50(being generous)
Hulk durability:100 Juggs Durability: 100
According to Marvel, Hulk doesn't have a defined "base strength;" Nor does Juggernaut. Hulk, Juggernaut, Destroyer, Galactus, Thor, etcetera are all in the same strength class, defined as "Level 7." However, Hulk has the ability to exceed "Level 7." Juggernaut doesn't, nor do any of the latter. Except for the Destroyer. Damn that thing is powerful.
Originally posted by Tough Guy
in that pic doesnt look like hulks hurt kill all
it doesnt matter. it should count as a win by your logic. because... hulk was physically held in place while an outside influence punched him. it lasted every bit as long as hulk/juggernaut confrontation in hulk 404, and hulk had an outside influence that knocked juggernaut out.
Originally posted by Tough Guy
*war trashed juggie live with it, its in the comics, juggie is in fear of his life, and no psychic manouvers at all.
war hulk was powerful. but all he did was stop juggernaut by negating his energies, then throw him. maybe punched him once or twice. juggernaut also punched war hulk.
Originally posted by Tough Guy
* savage hulk could get just as strong as war hulk
no he cant!!! war hulk simply had to think to be strong, savage hulk had to find a reason to get angry (which wasnt that hard) and before he could increase his strength, he would have to get mad again. war hulk just says to himself "i wanna be stronger" and boom its done.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
KillAll: He's "potentially" stronger, at base strength we already established the Hulk being "slightly" weaker...And posting that pic isn't the best of ideas, it looks to me like their "teaming up" just to fight the hulk...If Jugg's so "almighty" then why is he reduced to gang banging the hulk along with some nobody(Absorbing Man?)...
its abomination in the pic, and the villains were mind controlled. but its a similar situation as to what happened in 404. so it should count as a win for juggernaut. juggernaut physically holds hulk in place while abomination punchs him. this is a mind controlled juggernaut 😉 hulk punchs juggernaut in 404 and a backlash takes him out. big deal, if that counts as a win for hulk, then this does for juggernaut.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
You guy's say there is no fair argument about the hulk beating Juggernaut but WHERE is a fair argument of Juggernaut beating the hulk..Come Come now, you have to come up with something more than Juggernaut having "physical invulnerability", that is overruled All the time in the world of comics..
its not overruled... please give me examples since you must read juggernaut all the time and know 😉 also, juggernaut beat hulk in hulk 402, when you first open the book it shows hulk being sent flying THROUGH the trees. it then is clear in my mind that *smart* hulk should have been *smart* enough to know, that no normal lumberjack has the power to move a 1000 lbs man THROUGH trees. it is a win and hulk DOES fight back.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
He may be stronger at base strength but like I said before and I'll say it again the hulk's power is going to keep rising constantly while Jugg's power is going to stay the same until Hulk's power catches up and "dwarfs" his...
doubt it... savage hulk has already tried and failed. juggernaut told him... that his attacks were getting weaker while juggernauts were getting stronger. STRONGER, not staying the same.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
And saying the Juggernaut is going to "knock out" the hulk before his power dwarfs his is a weak assumption, if the avengers, thor, the fantastic four, and Onslaught(Marvel's first stringers) couldn't "knock him out" before he got "extremely" mad then what makes you think the Juggernaut can??
because hes did it before. and thor can take hulk... he has far to many abilities not to be able to. he just physically engages him, and he also fights on his opponents level.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
Out of all those previous battles the Juggernaut couldn't knock Hulk out cold so what makes you guys just up and decide he can do this!!
ok... please read issue 402. when juggernaut clearly beats hulk into unconscioussness and juggernauts employer at the time orders him to stop before he kills him... literally.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
I don't care how "mystically" powered up the Juggernaut is or how impervious he is to pain, "its a comic book" for crying out loud, things like that are "overridden" ALL THE TIME...
no they arent 😉 its like saying the destroyer could feel pain. which is impossible also. but everybody accepts the destroyer. but not juggernaut... why?? because you dont like him 😉 sounds odd to me.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
The hulk is way to high on the food chain to be simply beaten blow for blow by some bully turned hired mercenary whom was reduced to begging for his very life..
yes, begging for his life because he was at onslaughts mercy, a guy that had telepathy, a well known weakness of juggernauts. hulk too has had to reason with surfer because surfer was absorbing his energies and reducing him to nothing, because at the time there was no banner to turn back into.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
You guy's can "intellectual"(if thats possible using comics) and tally the votes against the Hulk all you want but until I see either:
1)Juggernaut just simply knocking the hulk unconscious in a battle and walking away..OR
2)Any bio or "credited" data that states the Juggernauts power being "infinite"..
the writers, and bios state it. look it up instead of just saying it doesnt exist. quit being lazy. oh, and find me a bio that says hulks power is infinite.
Originally posted by SarKastic_OJ
without those two factors the Juggernaut is bound to fighting a losing battle..Yeah Marco has perks but the hulk has "more", the hulk's more versatile..I see it like this:
Hulk Strength: 100+(and rising) Jugg Strength:infinite
Hulk Speed: 50 Jugg Speed:25(slow)
Hulk agility:50 Jugg Agility:15
Hulk healing:100+(and rising) Jugg healing: 50(being generous)
Hulk durability:100 Juggs Durability: 100
you see it like that.......... HA HA HA.......... need i say more. we can all come up with our own statistics. wasnt it you just preaching about using actual comics??? hulk isnt as durable as juggernaut by the way, to say that is just silly, regardless of whatelse you believe about these 2. if gladiators eye beams burn through hulk, and juggernaut takes the godforce with 0 damage, its a pretty safe assumption that juggernaut dwarfs hulk absolutely with durability.
Lets see here we have alteast 3 battles to go on here. Those being Hulk #172,402,457.
Hulk #172- I would say this was a tie cause when Juggy came back to finish the fight the X-men interferred.
Hulk #402- Juggy clearly knocks Hulks @ss out. Juggy did this on his own power.
Hulk #457- Hulk kicks Juggys @ss with some enhancements we all know about.
So in summing this up I would say Juggy has a slight lead on the Hulk cause well he acutally has a win over the Hulk that he can say he accomplished on his own power. The Hulk cannot make the same statement.