You forgot issue 404. If #172 is a tie; 402 is a Juggernaut win vs Professor hulk, who is not as strong as Savage Hulk; 404 is a Savage Hulk win; and Hulk 457 is a War Hulk win, Hulk has more wins. Don't go into enhancements. Cyttorak is one the ultimate enhancements. If you won't count Hulk's win with an advantage, don't count Juggenaut's win against the weakened Professor Hulk. Juggernaut has never beat the Savage Hulk, his equal in strength.
Originally posted by supessucks
Don't go into enhancements. Cyttorak is one the ultimate enhancements.
Superman gets his powers from our sun, Hulk from the gamma radiation and Juggernaut from Cyttorak. No enhancements here.
Originally posted by supessucks
You forgot issue 404. If #172 is a tie; 402 is a Juggernaut win vs Professor hulk, who is not as strong as Savage Hulk; 404 is a Savage Hulk win; and Hulk 457 is a War Hulk win, Hulk has more wins. Don't go into enhancements. Cyttorak is one the ultimate enhancements. If you won't count Hulk's win with an advantage, don't count Juggenaut's win against the weakened Professor Hulk. Juggernaut has never beat the Savage Hulk, his equal in strength.
yeah but there is a difference in juggernauts enchantment and hulk's.
Hulk already had power and then he got more power on top of that power, if we look at juggernauts power not counting as we look at wars enchantment not counting, then we might as well say cain marko could beat bruce banner.
But since hulk already had power but he had and enchantment to increase that power, that was unfair. Thats like if juggernaut was the one who received apocalypse's power, i guarantee everyone of you hulk fans would throw a FN tantrum
Originally posted by talon00x
yeah but there is a difference in juggernauts enchantment and hulk's.Hulk already had power and then he got more power on top of that power, if we look at juggernauts power not counting as we look at wars enchantment not counting, then we might as well say cain marko could beat bruce banner.
But since hulk already had power but he had and enchantment to increase that power, that was unfair. Thats like if juggernaut was the one who received apocalypse's power, i guarantee everyone of you hulk fans would throw a FN tantrum
but the Hulk didnt receive extra power from Apocalypse. Apocalypse just tapped into Hulks potential of power that he could of reach on his own with enough work. Apocalypse just made a short cut to that power that the Hulk could reach on his own but would of taken longer.
One thing to debat is how long would the Hulk maintain that level of strength?? well the Professor Hulk actually since War Hulk is a stronger version of Professor Hulk
Originally posted by x_danny_x\
but the Hulk didnt receive extra power from Apocalypse. Apocalypse just tapped into Hulks potential of power that he could of reach on his own with enough work. Apocalypse just made a short cut to that power that the Hulk could reach on his own but would of taken longer.One thing to debat is how long would the Hulk maintain that level of strength?? well the Professor Hulk actually since War Hulk is a stronger version of Professor Hulk
So your saying that the green celestial power around him and the sword had nothing to do with stopping juggernaut forward progress it was just war's physical power? Im gona say BS and go read it over and let me know if apocalypse says that out of all the nonmuntant foes that the x-men have he picked juggernaut because he would be a good test of celestial might, and he always wondered who was more powerful between himself and the juggernaut.
Originally posted by supessucks
You forgot issue 404. If #172 is a tie; 402 is a Juggernaut win vs Professor hulk, who is not as strong as Savage Hulk; 404 is a Savage Hulk win; and Hulk 457 is a War Hulk win, Hulk has more wins. Don't go into enhancements. Cyttorak is one the ultimate enhancements. If you won't count Hulk's win with an advantage, don't count Juggenaut's win against the weakened Professor Hulk. Juggernaut has never beat the Savage Hulk, his equal in strength.
well if 404 counts as a hulk win, then juggernaut physically holding hulk in place while abom punchs him, clearly asserts juggernauts dominance over hulk. chalk up another win for juggernaut 😉
* right can all new posters read the thread juggie knocking out prof hulk is irrelevant, so is war irrelevant, savage v juggie is what this is about.
*no abom ( who also would kick juggies arse) and juggie and whoever else that is is not a win for hulk, what happened in the end of that fight, u see juggie hold hulk for abom to punch him, hulk by definition has infinite strength to call on to get out of juggies hold. win for juggie, go suck an egg. also hulk didnt seem hurt but looked like he was simply eyeing up the situation.
*war had celestial tech to cancel juggies magic, on a purely physical level he was trounced by war ( this is irrelevant here) as he would be by a savage hulk who is able to get as strong as war, or anyone that is his character i wish u guys read the bios, histories and actual characteristics of these characters as well as their standing in marvel and the point of them in the marvel world.
* juggie wouldnt be able to knock out a savage hulk , so really he better hope that his invincability holds as hulk would be incredibly pissed at juggie trying tp knock him out, i agree with sarkastic, juggie is just waiting there for a hulk really to hurt him ( with regards to stories for the future) , hulk is the ultimate physical character that is what he was designed to be, his popularity has not wained for marvel to decide well we need to make this guy like the hulk only invincable, and able to move without being stopped and has a forcefield, ( still makes me laugh) and lets have this character top the marvel powerhouse league, give me a break, the more we argue this point the clearer it becomes hulk is the top powerhouse as thats his character, juggie has to hope for luck or at best abom and anyone else to lend a hand if he wants to tango with hulk
Originally posted by Tough Guy
*no abom ( who also would kick juggies arse)
Judging by your logic concerning Savage Hulk, the Abomination would not and could not take out the Juggernaut. Granted the Abomination is immensely strong, but his strength does not increase the angrier he gets. Also, the Abomination can routinely press approximately 100 tons, but he cannot press 100 tons or over. In addition to having an unknown upper limit of strength, the Juggernaut can press 100 tons and over .
Originally posted by talon00x
\So your saying that the green celestial power around him and the sword had nothing to do with stopping juggernaut forward progress it was just war's physical power? Im gona say BS and go read it over and let me know if apocalypse says that out of all the nonmuntant foes that the x-men have he picked juggernaut because he would be a good test of celestial might, and he always wondered who was more powerful between himself and the juggernaut.
im talking about the Strength only man, that portion the Hulk I believe would of eventually reached!
cool, now I will create and Apocalypse vs Juggy thread 🙂
Originally posted by Tough Guy
i read 1 bio stating juggie is only like in the 115 tonne range
this is your problem 😉 what would you do if you read ONE bio stating hulk didnt have unlimited strength. or that hulk was in the 13 ton class and increased his strength by 1 ton per hour?? anybody that can make a website can write anything they want in those bios. that is why you need comic evidence to support your theories, not cards and bios.
Originally posted by theflyxx
Judging by your logic concerning Savage Hulk, the Abomination would not and could not take out the Juggernaut. Granted the Abomination is immensely strong, but his strength does not increase the angrier he gets. Also, the Abomination can routinely press approximately 100 tons, but he [b]cannot press 100 tons or over. In addition to having an unknown upper limit of strength, the Juggernaut can press 100 tons and over . [/B]
Originally posted by x_danny_x
im talking about the Strength only man, that portion the Hulk I believe would of eventually reached!cool, now I will create and Apocalypse vs Juggy thread 🙂
Thats where i disagree, but i cannot change your opinion. I wont believe hulk stopping his forward progress with his own power untill i see it.
I just cannot see hulks physical strength undoing cytorraks magical spell on juggernaut.
Apocalypse vs juggernaut would be scary!!!!!! tv_horror
But both of those characters are my fav. i would pay to see
boxing
aboms strength does not increase with fear, modok said that apparantly in a comic but this is in no bios etc for abom, and if u think of it it would be a crap emotion to ti strength increase too, ie, ud be strong till u started to win, then get weaker as u were less scared.
* kill all that juggie bio was a juggie fan page i got off 1 of these pages.