Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Started by Tough Guy486 pages

oh and hulk wins as he is a more developed character and potentially more powerful than juggie, and all he does is have to get angry to unloock that infinite potential

Originally posted by Tough Guy
abom is over the 200 tonne matk my dear boy.

Son, show me where you got your info saying that the Abomination can press over 200 tons.

it states in any bio for abom he is at least twice the normal base strength of hulk but doesnt grow stronger

Originally posted by Tough Guy
it states in any bio for abom he is at least twice the normal base strength of hulk but doesnt grow stronger

Give me a link.

Show me a link to any of the bios that you mentioned that specifically states that the Abomination can press 200 tons........

Originally posted by Tough Guy
oh and hulk wins as he is a more developed character and potentially more powerful than juggie, and all he does is have to get angry to unloock that infinite potential

strength means nothing if he cannot hurt him, and dont bring up throwing him as it makes hulk look weak. Also the tonnes of rock he would burry him in juggernaut would simply break out as it was not solid rock like when he first became juggernaut, and i doubt he would throw him and just hop off into the sunset, (come on hulk has a back bone)

The possibility of hulk getting his hands on juggernaut long enough to make a throw would be slim, this wouldnt be there first fight and after their last encounter juggernaut would be looking for revenge, sweat revenge. dev

But if hulk does win it would be some lame way like all the other times, the x-men come out of nowhere, some psychic backlash, him becoming a horseman of apocalypse, i count none of those as wins as hulk did not do any of them on his own. 😆 Hulk would probally drink some magic potion and give him phychic powers 😆 rofl

and why are you disscusing abom??????? here is all the fights jeez.

http://www.leaderslair.com/gammapeople/gammaattacks/gammaattacks.html

well if it says abom is over twice hulks base rate and hulk really( savage) betwwen 75 -100 tonnes times that by 2 and add some.
* hulk could well get so physically strong that the cyttorak gem s power is overcome, and hulk has no limit to the strength he can reach. hell cyttorak cant be infinite in power even as its not the most powerful source of energy in mu lol, another juggie inconsistancie

Originally posted by Tough Guy
well if it says.........

You're assuming something that is completely incorrect.

As I asked before, please give me a link to "any" of the bios that you claimed stated that the Abomination has a strength level twice the base rate of the Hulk.

I just want to see where you personally are getting your information and what your sources are.

It will give me an idea as to how you are coming to the conclusion that the Juggernaut can be defeated by the Hulk.

read the hulk s own marvel character biography for hulk, it has enemies, juggie, abom, etc thor in there.

I went to Marvel.com and couldn't find the info that you stated.

Again, could you give me a link, please?

Originally posted by Tough Guy
abom is over the 200 tonne matk my dear boy. well all im saying is hulk savage ( not prof) would be able to get strong enough to be physically superior to juggie, break his holds etc. i read 1 bio stating juggie is only like in the 115 tonne range

Ummm, Abomination hasn't been that strong since his first appearance, my dear boy. He's still stronger than Hulk's base strength though.

"Almost 100 pages, and nobody has said something convincing how Hulk could beat Juggernaut."

I have. Whether people can argue against it or not is one thing, but I have produced many many scenarios and ways outside of continuity and in, that Hulk can beat Juggernaut. Juggernaut Fan (as totally biased and hypocritical as he was) and I went back and forth, we basically made this thread what it is, along with Victor Von Doom. As soon as we all left, Tron and Who-Kid (although I really don't understand the man's logic) were the only ones talking sense.

Funny how when Vic and I left, Juggernaut gained the upperhand in this thread.

"The possibility of hulk getting his hands on juggernaut long enough to make a throw would be slim, this wouldnt be there first fight and after their last encounter juggernaut would be looking for revenge, sweat revenge."

The possibility of Hulk getting his hands on Juggernaut is slim? We're talking about The Incredible Hulk here, not Hulk Hogan.

The thread that was raging when I first joined, is still here. Amazing.

-AC

I agree. The Hulk would have no problem gettting his hands on Juggernaut. Hulk is also faster than Juggernaut, (and not just in running speed, skeptics.) If we're pitting modern day Hulk who is stronger than the Abomination at "base strength", vs Juggernaut, who plays flunkie for hire and often loses to a few X-Men, Hulk will win. It would take Hulk no time to get WAY stronger than Juggernaut.

If I remember correctly, Hulk destroyed Onslaught, after Onslaught kicked Juggernauts ass, taking the Cytorrak ruby. Hulk and Juggernaut only fought in old comics. If Juggernaut were to face modern day post-heroes reborn stupid-strong Hulk, he'd lose like Abomination or Flux did.

this is a thread for the ages children.

I thought we already ended this debate in "Juggernaut..the debate to end all debates..." ...lol....

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If I remember correctly, Hulk destroyed Onslaught, after Onslaught kicked Juggernauts ass, taking the Cytorrak ruby.

I'm afraid you don't remember it correctly lol. Hulk did not "destroy" Onslaught, it was more complicated than that (not to mention the Jean Grey factor and the fact Onslaught was already weakened by the combined attack of the Avengers, X-Men and FF.)

And if I'm not mistaken, the heroes were protected from psionic attacks from Onslaught. If they weren't, Onslaught could have done with Hulk whatever he wanted.

the only time i remember abomination being twice as strong(at least stronger than is current self) is in the "days of futures past" universe where he and every other gamma being was further irradiated, he was grey in that one

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Powers/Abilities: Emil is the future version of the Abomination who has gone through a nuclear war and been made much more powerful due to the radiation. He has super human strength and durability fare beyond the modern day's Abomination, which puts him well into class 100.

History: In an alternate future during a nuclear war, Abomination, Hulk, and She-Hulk soaked up a lot of gamma radiation and were all made much more powerful. Hulk was driven mad and took over the world.

damn that man looks cool!

Welcome back again Alpha.

If you haven't noticed, whatever sense was made pages ago, has all been thrown out the window as of late, lol.