the mother of the matrix: TRINITY?

Started by The Unknown7 pages

My opinion is that Persephone is the mother. As forumcrew said, she was created to study the human psyche, which involves love. And when Neo says that the Oracle is the mother, the architect says "Please" sarcastically, which I think meant that Neo was wrong, but I may be incorrect.

Actually, its impossible for the Agents to erase Trinity's memory because 1) Agents have no mental power over hackers and 2) Trinity and the gang are hackers and they hack into the Matrix

and why would the Mother of the matrix have sex with her son(if all the people in the matrix are the sons and daughters of the matrix)?? ewwww

yay another believer.. ✅

VERITY> i believe that the architect thought that too!

Unknown> The human psyche: Synonyms are soul, nature, being.
The mother does not study human emotions. If that was the purpose of the Mother of the Matrix, don't you think a correct program as the Architect would've said "emotions."
Psyche, among things, deals with super-ego, subconcious, id - and such things as behaviour and why we CHOSE as we do.

It's been mentioned countless times in as many articles: Persephone is a kind of emotional vampire. There is even here on KCM.
And an emotional vampire doesn't really fit the description of mother.

But the Wachowski Bros. may want you to think that she's not the mother by making her an "emotional vampire".

I don't think the Oracle is the mother. When the Architect describes the mother, right away we think its the Oracle, and even Neo plays on this idea. There are two reasons why the Architect said "please" to Neo:

The Oracle was not the Mother of the Matrix, or
he thought it was stupid to name Mother the Oracle.

But if the Oracle is the mother, then she would have knowledge of the destructions of Zion and the past ones. In the first Matrix movie, she says to Neo that Morpheus has been with us since the beginning. This then must refer to the beginning of that Matrix. The Wachowski Bros may just want to play on this feeling that its the mother because of the Oracle's importance to the Neo and the others. But still, she may be the mother, because Seraph says to Neo in Reloaded that he protects (i'm guessing the Oracle) that which is most important.

no way trinity cant be the mother of the matrix
the artichect told that it was a program first built to understand human psyche (so how can trinity be a program, so to speak, like an agent)

honestly, we dont know who is the mother of the matrix,
but it seems that it is persephone
bcoz she IS a program as Mero is

okokokok I have to post one more thing about this... if you read my other few posts in this thread abotu persephone it is all explained fairly well but i just saw this today.. more on the mythology

Persephone: Hades kidnaps Persephone. Demeter searches for her and asks Zeus for help. Demeter is neglecting her duties and the world has turned cold. Zeus helps, but it is too late, because Persephone has eaten six pomegranite seeds

the key to this beign the last part.. eaten six pomegranite seeds... 6 seeds neo is the 6th one? perhaps she was kissed 6 ones? this doesnt really prove being the mother at all only being around the entire time.. and playing a key role

**has kissed 6 ones not was kissed.. sorry bout that.. btw it wouldnt let me edit cause it had been too long thats why the new post

the mythoilogy to pers. bein the mother doesnt quite add up though, you see its quite a stretch

well the kissin 6 ones eatin 6 seeds was kinda seperate from the mother thing.. just curious about it... but all my other persephone info is on here so i put it with it

well the six seed thing actually made sense to me but the other stuff 😖

I posted this in another thread and thought it might be more relevant here...

Everyone is missing one subtle, but important point. The mother is the Oracle. First, I must assume that Neo, having this conversation with the Architect, fully understands and knows what the Architect is saying (although most of us have had to read the transcript and see the movie like 3x to finally 'get it'😉. If you follow the conversation, Neo basically affirms his understanding of what the Architect is saying all throughout the conversation. My point here is this: if Neo is fully understanding - not necessarily agreeing with - the Architect, which we can presume he does (see below), then he must also be right about the Oracle.

1st statement: Architect explains what Neo is and Neo responds by saying you haven't answered my question. Architect is surprised both his response AND the speed with which Neo responds - this basically PROVES to the Architect and to us that Neo understands what the hell the Architect is saying. 2nd statement: Architect tells Neo there was more than one Matrix and that there were more Ones before him. Neo responds by saying "Either no one told me or no one knew". Architect agrees with his conclusion. 3rd statement: Architect talks about anomoly of the Matrix and Neo affirms his understanding by saying it's about choice. Again, Architect expounds on the problem of choice. 4th statement: Architect talks about ppl who reject the Matrix creating an escalating prob. of disaster and Neo immediately understands that this is about Zion. The Architect agrees and expounds on it some more. 5th statement: Architect talks about attachment to humans in a specific way (love) and Neo understands that he is referring to Trinity. Architect, again, agrees and explains.

If we presume that Neo knows what the Architect is saying, then Neo is right about all of his conclusions throughout this entire conversation, including his referring to the intuitive program as the Oracle! After all, Neo was one of the smartest hackers in the Matrix. You'd think he'd be able to make logical grasps of new information. The Architect's 'please...' only shows his disdain for the humans' mideval reference to an individual who is nothing more than a program. any other explanation is streteching...

Originally posted by forumcrew
okokokok I have to post one more thing about this... if you read my other few posts in this thread abotu persephone it is all explained fairly well but i just saw this today.. more on the mythology

Persephone: Hades kidnaps Persephone. Demeter searches for her and asks Zeus for help. Demeter is neglecting her duties and the world has turned cold. Zeus helps, but it is too late, because Persephone has eaten six pomegranite seeds

the key to this beign the last part.. eaten six pomegranite seeds... 6 seeds neo is the 6th one? perhaps she was kissed 6 ones? this doesnt really prove being the mother at all only being around the entire time.. and playing a key role

Actually, I looked it up, and she ate seven pomegranate seeds, not six. And while I was looking it up, I read that Hades, Persephone's husband, carried keys to signify that no one could escape from his realm. This could be represented by Merovingian, Persephone's husband, carrying keys made by the keymaker. And I heard that Merovingian owns Club Hel.

hehe

only joking

Does the Merovigian own Club Hel?

ehm well he acts like it his anyway

the mother of the burlyboy: CLAVIS?

😄

the thing i looked up said 6 but ohwell i dont care anymore.. just waitin for the movie