God / Religion Thread [merged]

Originally posted by Darth Revan
No... those guys were either brainwashed or they had a screw loose. Mainstream Islam does NOT teach people to go kill thousands of people. You can't use the Taliban as an example, because very little they do is what Allah teaches.

And I did read the other posts, so you need to ask me if I had before you go making an assertion like that, hun.

🙂 Thats my point: brainwashed or screw loose.

They still said, that Allah made them do it, and i'm saying they were lying cuz it's not the same God I worship, my God is not evil and wouldn't tell them to do that.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
And tell me, how is it that you know any of the events in Jobs actually happened? WITHOUT referencing the Bible?

I'm sorry, but there's something about this whole blind faith thing that just strikes me as bullshit... What if I had a kid, and he got some disease, and I prayed with every fiber of my being, and I believed 100% that God would save him if I just had FAITH.... And then the kid died? Would God still be able to save me, teach me, lead me, guide me, and fill me with things I lacked? 😱 Somehow the thing I had been praying for being dead kinda ruins the whole idea. It was a nice one though, while it lasted... 🙁

How do you know the things you think God has gifted to you "over time" were not just luck biting you in the ass? Maybe I will burn in hell for all eternity... Too bad for me, I guess. 🙁

I had that experience, my mom was a christian. She believed to the bitter end, that she was going to be healed. she held her head high and had a very good outlook on life. She always watched TBN & went to chruch. I only seen her break down 1 time thru it all & thats when she had breast cancer, then 3 yrs later she had bone cancer. I was Not a christian at the time, so you can just imagine how i felt and who i blamed, God. she was not only my mom but my best friend we did everything together. It took me awhile, but i finaly did come back to God, and I still had all these questions in me about my mom. Thru preaching and teaching,& in my heart, the answers came. I never asked anyone these questions, only God, but thats how he answered me. All things work together for God, that I know. Our ways are not Gods ways, His ways are not ours. I know that it happened for a reason, Me & my husband was not serving God at the time, We are Now. I know he's always there for me, & he never said, that the cross we bear each day would be easy, But he did say, he would always be there for us and he is.

I"m always in the threads about God, so i'm being asked the same questions it seems in the threads. So, alot of how I feel are in other threads if i've missed soemthing. 🙂

Thanks Finti, I thk so too

... And I rest my case...

Ill have a beer or 12

TBN as in Trinity Broadcasting Network?

Originally posted by finti
TBN as in Trinity Broadcasting Network?

🙂 yes

Finti raises good points. Try answering those FE... and good luck.

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
I had that experience, my mom was a christian. She believed to the bitter end, that she was going to be healed. she held her head high and had a very good outlook on life. She always watched TBN & went to chruch. I only seen her break down 1 time thru it all & thats when she had breast cancer, then 3 yrs later she had bone cancer. I was Not a christian at the time, so you can just imagine how i felt and who i blamed, God. she was not only my mom but my best friend we did everything together. It took me awhile, but i finaly did come back to God, and I still had all these questions in me about my mom. Thru preaching and teaching,& in my heart, the answers came. I never asked anyone these questions, only God, but thats how he answered me. All things work together for God, that I know. Our ways are not Gods ways, His ways are not ours. I know that it happened for a reason, Me & my husband was not serving God at the time, We are Now. I know he's always there for me, & he never said, that the cross we bear each day would be easy, But he did say, he would always be there for us and he is.

I"m always in the threads about God, so i'm being asked the same questions it seems in the threads. So, alot of how I feel are in other threads if i've missed soemthing. 🙂

So, God killed your mother so that you would believe in him? He sounds like a real as$hole if you ask me... 😕

Seriously though, that makes no sense if God loves everybody. He probably hurt more people than he "helped" by killing your mother. I don't understand how you can honestly love this God of yours and simultaneously believe he killed your mother.

Jury> Seems to me that you're too busy complaining about everybody else mocking Christianity to realize that you're doing the same thing to other people's beliefs.

Originally posted by finti
I think her posts speaks for itselfs regarding that question

...Hence why it Christians should not be angry when people say they follow the church blindly like good little ducklings...

Well..if you're following the church you're eyes are on the wrng thing. You shld follow God. Just cus someone attends church, does not mean they are a christian and they are doing things right. Your focus shld be on God, not on man.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
So, God killed your mother so that you would believe in him? He sounds like a real as$hole if you ask me... 😕

Seriously though, that makes no sense if God loves everybody. He probably hurt more people than he "helped" by killing your mother. I don't understand how you can honestly love this God of yours and simultaneously believe he killed your mother.

Jury> Seems to me that you're too busy complaining about everybody else mocking Christianity to realize that you're doing the same thing to other people's beliefs.

You need to read all the post better hun, I've NEVER said, God killed my mother nor did i even hint to that in any way form or fashion!!!

We have choices, it's how we respond to them. why is it you thk God, shld over take everything in all situations? would that not take aways free will? Cancer happens to the good and the bad, its life... is my point. She believed no matter what and gave God the glory for it all!!! no, i didn't understand at first but i do now, all the work for the good of God, although our ways are not his, and his ways are not ours...sometimes we can't see the bigger picture that he sees.
people that are not a born again christian can't see the bigger picture and can't see who God is.

I think God should over take everything in all situations because of the reason I've already stated many times. He's supposed to love us all AND be all powerful. If that were true, he wouldn't have a "bigger plan", he would simply make everybody happy. And he could do so without anything going wrong, and without taking away our free will, being all powerful. There would be no war, no disease, no suffering.

And I find your last statement arrogant, to say the least. Saying that I can't possibly understand "the bigger picture" because I don't worship your god. The thing I don't understand about blindly following born-agains is that when something good happens, it's because of "god's glory" or something. When something bad happens, it's always "god works in mysterious ways". That's not how it works in real life. When something good happens, great. When something bad happens, too bad, that sucks. It doesn't need to be any god's work in order to happen.

DARTH, you take things way out of context than what is being said and reword what has been said into something it was NOT. i've not been rude i don't thk, when you've expressed your opinion and if i have i'm sorry, but i thk it's useless talking to you w/an attitude like you have.

The only way i can' explain is that God hates sin that much. He did everything for those people and they would still sin against him. He brought them out of Egypt, yet they complained constantly, they made golden images and worshiped, it was sin after sin, they wouldn't stop. He did warn them, but they didn't listen.
Noah warned the people, but they didn't listen either.
Jonah warned the people of Ninveh and they did listen and he did not destroy that city.
We are like that alot in todays world, we know what God can do (most do) but we still sin against him.
God gave his only son so that the world COULD be saved. IT's our choice tho. We can accept or walk away from him.

do you believe in the story of Noah?

I apologize for having an "attitude", but you really have no idea how many people come in here with views like yours, as well as saying things like "well your just stupid if you dont believe in god". Maybe I am being overly defensive, but from where I am, it doesn't look like you're a whole lot better.

What do you mean by my taking things out of context? I understand you being frusterated if I'm not understanding your point, but still... After three days of me asking pretty much the same question in every post you haven't answered me.

Who said we know what god can do? I don't believe in the Christian god... And I know plenty of people who've sinned, Christian or not, and still have very nice little lives...

when in anything i've said, did i say that if you were a sinner, you'd live a bad life? never did i say that.

yes, finti i believe the story of Noah.

Darth, when in anything i've said, did i say that if you were a sinner, you'd live a bad life? never did i say that.

yes, finti i believe the story of Noah.