Spider-Man vs Batman

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
THere was a rather interesting Spawn and batman crossover where they fight and at first Bats wins.....till spawn let loose a little bit of his magic and used it to pump himself up a little....then beat bats senseless. It was an awesome storyline and very true to both characters. They depended on each other to save the day.

spidey still wins this one imo

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Originally posted by Wrathofachilies You need to stop posting in this thread if you're going to make such asinine claims. Go read up on Spider-Man before you make an argument. Batman's villains in no way outclass Spider-Man's. Virtually every comic 'critic' agrees that Spider-Man's villains are the best in comics. Green Goblin is as psychotic as Joker and far more powerful, Dr. Octopus is as intelligent as Penguin and far more powerful, Rhino, Scorpion, and Lizard all outclass Killer Croc, Hobgoblin outclasses the Riddler, Sandman and Venom outclass Clayface, etc. etc. This isn't even close man.

Wrathofachillies maybe you are the one who needs to read more of batman comics. Because the last I checked it was batman who had the best rogue gallery out of DC and Marvel. Which world have you been living in? And the joker is still the one leading the pack.

And yes I am comparing batman fighting his villains to him fighting spider-man to make points as he would fight. Because when you combine all of the people that batman has fought what do you get spider-man only they are on a much higher scale and spider-man. And yes if you do the same for spider-man they are going to be stronger but dumber.

You are asking me that I am comparing batman fighting his villains to batman fighting spider-man? Yes I am and what have you been using to prove your points. I sure hope it is not spider-man is stronger, faster, agile, and so on and so forth.

And by the way spider-man's villains are smart but they don't show it. And your green goblins and hobgoblins are all rep offs of the joker. The all difference, lets make them stronger. And hope that people would be so moved by them that they would not even notice the similarities.

And encase you did not catch this the first time

Word to the wise, you do not have to beat someone to a bloody pulp before you know that you have done a number on them. And this was the whole point to my earlier post.

Spiderman outclasses batman in a fight but so has all the other people that batman has been known to fight. And he still kick's their butts' so what's your point?

So did you guys like the parting gift that batman left spawn, that is very true to batman don't you think.

i dont remember, what was it?

and by the way a maniac who dresses like a clown is nothing compared to a maniac with enhanced strength who dresses like a goblin and rides a glider with an assortment of bombs and missiles.....

Joker surpasses maniac isn't he a justice league bad guy.

joker is an infinitely greater villain than hobgoblin, not in physical terms but in terms of character.

spidey still wins though.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Wrathofachillies maybe you are the one who needs to read more of batman comics. Because the last I checked it was batman who had the best rogue gallery out of DC and Marvel. Which world have you been living in? And the joker is still the one leading the pack.

And yes I am comparing batman fighting his villains to him fighting spider-man to make points as he would fight. Because when you combine all of the people that batman has fought what do you get spider-man only they are on a much higher scale and spider-man. And yes if you do the same for spider-man they are going to be stronger but dumber.

You are asking me that I am comparing batman fighting his villains to batman fighting spider-man? Yes I am and what have you been using to prove your points. I sure hope it is not spider-man is stronger, faster, agile, and so on and so forth.

And by the way spider-man's villains are smart but they don't show it. And your green goblins and hobgoblins are all rep offs of the joker. The all difference, lets make them stronger. And hope that people would be so moved by them that they would not even notice the similarities.

And encase you did not catch this the first time

[B]Word to the wise, you do not have to beat someone to a bloody pulp before you know that you have done a number on them. And this was the whole point to my earlier post.

Spiderman outclasses batman in a fight but so has all the other people that batman has been known to fight. And he still kick's their butts' so what's your point? [/B]

I don't read Batman comics, but I don't spout off about how Batman is not a threat, lol. You're the one making asinine claims about Spider-Man. And I don't know where you 'checked', but you need to 'check' again. The 'who has the best villains' question is opinion, and has not been decided as fact, thus you can't 'check' it, but Spider-Man is considered by most to have the greatest rogue gallery of all heroes. Whether Green Goblin is a rip-off of Joker makes no difference, most characters are rip-offs of others. That's not grounds for dismissing them. Batman has NOT faced more powerful characters. Spider-Man has faced Thanos, Juggernaut, Magneto, Hulk, Thor, Dr. Doom, and the Beyonder! Where in the hell do you get this nonsense about Batman facing stronger foes? Again, his rogue gallery is much weaker than Spider-Man's. Is it older? Yeah, for the most part, but the issue isn't which came first, it's which is superior.

And yeah, I caught your scenario, but you're forgetting the obvious fact that Batman cannot catch Spider-Man. The only number he's doing on Spider-Man is zero.

Originally posted by pr1983
joker is an infinitely greater villain than hobgoblin, not in physical terms but in terms of character.

I'm sure you're aware that that is an opinion and not actual fact. I agree he has done far more damage to Batman's life than Hobgoblin has to Spider-Man's, but I was comparing Green Goblin to Joker anyway, and GG has probably done more damage to Peter than Joker has to Bruce.

It was poorly written so I understand why it was near incomprehensable. But the point that lifeisaglich was trying to make, as I beleive it, is that Batman has fought characters who are as strong or stronger than Spiderman himself, not his "Rogue Gallery." This of course is true of most heros. Yes Spiderman would be a threat, and it is assinine to say that Spiderman wouldn't be a threat, but saying Batman would not be a threat is assinine as well (you haven't said this to my knowledge just getting to my point.)

Batman could, and likely would win.

I don't read Batman comics, but I don't spout off about how Batman is not a threat, lol. You're the one making asinine claims about Spider-Man. And I don't know where you 'checked', but you need to 'check' again. The 'who has the best villains' question is opinion, and has not been decided as fact, thus you can't 'check' it, but Spider-Man is considered by most to have the greatest rogue gallery of all heroes. Whether Green Goblin is a rip-off of Joker makes no difference, most characters are rip-offs of others. That's not grounds for dismissing them. Batman has NOT faced more powerful characters. Spider-Man has faced Thanos, Juggernaut, Magneto, Hulk, Thor, Dr. Doom, and the Beyonder! Where in the hell do you get this nonsense about Batman facing stronger foes? Again, his rogue gallery is much weaker than Spider-Man's. Is it older? Yeah, for the most part, but the issue isn't which came first, it's which is superior.

Please, as if you your self have not thought that batman is not a treat.lol I could say the same about spiderman having the best rogue gallery but it is the batman because of majority. But then again it is just opinion as you said. Ripping off other people is what makes the world go round in the comic world. But I did not say we should not count them simply becasue they were rep offs. Counting that batman is has no super powers, people he has faced Clayface family(and I do mean a family), recently darkside, Bizzaro superman, grundy, Thermiscira (Amazonian), and Ziess (I just like the cut of his jib).

When did I say that Batman's rogue gallery is going to stronger? I just said that they are smarter.

And yeah, I caught your scenario, but you're forgetting the obvious fact that Batman cannot catch Spider-Man. The only number he's doing on Spider-Man is zero.

You got really got my point on this one. ZERO it the correct answer to "You do not need to beat someone to a bloody pulp before you know that you have done a number on them."

No one handles the beyonder alone, not even spiderman.

batman beating spiderman hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahha but for real now batman can't lay a hand on spiderman all spiderman needs to do is flick his risk and that would nock batman out

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
It was poorly written so I understand why it was near incomprehensable. But the point that lifeisaglich was trying to make, as I beleive it, is that Batman has fought characters who are as strong or stronger than Spiderman himself, not his "Rogue Gallery." This of course is true of most heros. Yes Spiderman would be a threat, and it is assinine to say that Spiderman wouldn't be a threat, but saying Batman would not be a threat is assinine as well (you haven't said this to my knowledge just getting to my point.)

Batman could, and likely would win.

lets just say theres a reason why batmans base deals with villains and spidermans base deals with supervillains

batman has never serously gone up agaist a character of super powers yes he did fight superman but he had krip. which make superman wicked weak. but spiderman doesent have a weakness sooo what batman gunna do to him...........

GG has probably done more damage to Peter than Joker has to Bruce.

what, just cause he killed gwen?

i was comparing both, sorry i didnt mention green goblin.

joker is the single greatest villain in comic history imo. no hes not the strongest, but his character surpasses that of most. and he's been more consistent in batmans life than goblin has been in spideys. He has done so much damage to bats, to discard his contribution would be ridiculous imo.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
batman beating spiderman hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahha but for real now batman can't lay a hand on spiderman all spiderman needs to do is flick his risk and that would nock batman out

That's funny, that's what some people would say about Wolverine...

Originally posted by pr1983
what, just cause he killed gwen?

i was comparing both, sorry i didnt mention green goblin.

joker is the single greatest villain in comic history imo. no hes not the strongest, but his character surpasses that of most. and he's been more consistent in batmans life than goblin has been in spideys. He has done so much damage to bats, to discard his contribution would be ridiculous imo.

spidey has a much larger respoinsibility as he has to take care of family, friends, and civilians which is definitely hard when some enemies know your identity and were once friends with you

So crippling Barbara Gordon, Killing misses Gordon (fogot the first name is it Marsha?) Killing Jason Todd and his mother, Threatening the Commissioner and Batman's other allies doesn't hit close to home?

Come on now, Aunt May's been kidnapped like 50-billion times, that's not scary, it's just obscene. What would anyone want with that old coot?

compared to killing gwen, threatening aunt may and mary janes life, having the ability to kill more civilians and blow up more buildings in a day than joker can do in a week, yeah i still think gg had alot more of an impact on spidey, after all peter parker lives in a normal apartment and not a mansion with security and a bat-cave that has the power to defend itself against a small army

i really dont think killing jason todd is much of a surprise, if you cant handle the damn business then get out of it, im so bitter towards jason todds death since batman whines about it every issue since that happened

GG can do more damage than Joker? You've gone mad. Surely you've forgetten that he's a bio-chemist. Joker could go bio-terrorist on the world. So he blows stuff up, oh, now I'm impressed. Joker blows stuff up with style, and that's what matters.