Hey DARKVIRUS check out this thread by Celsius.
Hey DARKVIRUS check out this thread by Celsius.
Hey well thanx there big guy, allow me to crap on your sunshine guy.
Im sorry but i thought i was watching a movie...not an anime. I thought i was watching a trilogy? you know begenning, middle and end. Thnx alot buddy but, that means nothing to me....if they are big fans of anime make a dam cartoon about it not a trilogy and then in every interview hype the hell out of a "blow your mind ending" so that ppl can spend their money to watch mediocre crap.
I have said this before and no-one has said anyting about this, they created their own hype. My head was filled by them and the producer so dont go blaming me.
Go ahead and buy the matrix, then while you're at it buy matrix revisited (money written all over it), then buy matrix reloaded, then wait for the special platinum series, hey while youre at it buy animatrix and hell go for enter the matrix also....guess what buddy who's got your money know not you. Oh wait there still room for more wait for the revolution special edition that will include cut scene's sop they can move that garbage off shelves and then....wait for it....wait for it..... the matrix on-line oh yes they truly do care about your money.....I mean their product.
Hey meta thanx for acknowledging the fact that your just another dollar symbol on the ignorant express. Im sure they appreciate your business.
My opinion seems to matter becuase i have backed it up in many threads while the ppl who seemed to have really liked the movie, their opinion's have been rather hollow (hey kinda like revolutions...go figure).
But thanx for stopping by meta and I hope you like getting reamed by the wac. money train.
*ching ching*
Re: Re: Cool, Wizard
Originally posted by Metamorphisis
The Oracle made the Architect promis to release the others. Not that they had a choice. Most likely it will be done gradually by members of Zion hacking into the matrix and slowly showing people the truth.
I'm pretty sure that she said "the people that want to get out", not "the people". The Matrix will allow the people of Zion to free people that don't accept the Matrix.
DV
Your arguements seem to be based mearly on opnions that answers were not given, and your only defense is insults. I've explained enough about this very subject in other threads to the people who have disliked it, most of which seem not to understand it, none of which have been able to support their views, and all of whom still appear to stand in the minority. So why should I bother typing all the stuff I've said before? Your opinion is your own, and your insults do not support your opinions. Insults, hatered, and discriminations come from a lack of understanding, openmindedness, and fear. Are you afraid that someone here actually understands and enjoys a movie that you seemingly cannot and are closed off to?
Why bother coming to a place where we discuss the meaning behind the movies if you're only going to complain about the movies?
DV> A question out of pure curiosity. If you so hate the Revolutions and all the stuff that comes along with the Matrix… why are you here? You are entitled to your opinion, but don’t you have something enjoyable to do? Something you like?
It’s a shame you’ve never known bout Anime. And yes, you need everything, Matrix, Reloaded, Animatrix, ETM, and a comic or two, to get the full picture. That’s life and the way the “sequel” to The Matrix works.
I’ll be buying everything (I’m waiting for my trinity shades as we speak), because I LIKE this kind of cross-over world. Where it’s not “instant gratification”, slam, easy, everything cut out and served to me on a dish, as is a big problem with a lot of mainstream Hollywood. You don’t NEED to think.
I was thrilled at Sparks windshield comment. If you don’t know what ETM is, you’ll be clueless. When the kid says “Neo, I believe”, it’ll sound weird, unless you have the Animatrix.
This is a fan-film. Not a mainstream film. It’s made to and presented to hard-core fans. That’s novel.
I like it.
It’s actually getting hilarious to go through your post. Were you stomping your feet when you wrote that, I can almost imagine it?
The hard-core fans have seen, read, and played all the pieces of the puzzle. If you haven’t it’s no surprise you’re left ignorant at important pieces of said puzzle.
It’s you who’re left out of the loop, can you hear the echo?
Actually, I was surprised at how useful EtM was- I always assumed it only would say stuff explicity repeated in Reloaded but it really could be quite awkward to get some of the points without it.
But nevermind, it still WORKS without EtM, just you need it for close analysis.
Meanwhile, DV< your attitude is becoming very tiresome- cool it down.
Omega> nicely put. HARD-CORE FANS ALL THE WAY!!! w00t!!
DV> AS Omega said, this movie was not made for the casual movie-goer, this was a way for the Wachowskis to express, in multiple media forms, their ideas. Many other writers, directors, etc. put movies into games, toys, etc., however, theirs are directed at mindless masses who thrive on consumerism and mindless entertainment. While someone who knows nothing of philosophy or any religion besides their own could, in essence, enjoy the movie, it is directed at those who know about other religions, about other philosophies, or are willing to go out and actively participate in bettering themselves. I appluad the Waxhowski brothers for making this trilogy, because the core ideas, beliefs, values are acceptable by all. The fact that we go out of our way to research and find every peice, every clue, allows us to have a deeper understanding of the movies and life in general. If you didn't like the movie, that is acceptable, but don't tell me it has plot holes, an reprehensible plot, because, if all movies were like this, i would watch much more of them.
Omega
I applaud you!! Finally someone who's said what I've been saying:
DarkVirus and the rest of those who dislike the movie:
If you hate everything so much why are you here to b*tch and moan about it? You sound like a bunch of freaks who are so afraid of being in the minority.
Hate, Loathing, and discriminations come from a lack of understanding, openmindedness, and fear.
Are you afraid that you're going to be in the minority because you cannot grasp deeper philosophical relations and understand literary metaphors?
If you don't like it, find something better to do. This forum was made for analisys of the movies by those who enjoy them, not for bashing the movies and trying talk people out of seeing them. Let others make up their own damn minds.
I did not like Revolutions. I fully understood what was happening, I just did not understand why (when i say that I mean i dont understand why it was put in / remotely neccesary, no why it happened). Like the people who could walk on the ceiling, the french guy, the captains consant repeating of the phrase "god dammit!!", The whole Love is just a word/ karma is just a word bull shit. A lot of it was unneccesary and could have been told in a better way. But what is with the "love is jsut a word" crap? That makes NO sense. The wachowski bros are just trying to be profound and they are just trying to make money. And it isn't fair to say that people that aren't true fans only watched the 2nd and 3rd for the action scenes. Yes, the second did have one of the most amazing action sequences ive ever seen, but thats the ONLY reason I liked it. I hated reloaded, which, might I remind you, was full of action and fighting. But does that matter? No. It sucked anyway
Hold on am i missing something here did ppl not say in the other thread they agree with me.....and if you guys are not reading your own post you are INSULTING ME!!!!.
What kind of ppl constantly use the same excuse "you just dont get it". That is the only thing you guys can throw at me and TRUST me you would know when im insulting you. From the get-go you Omega told me I dont get it, here we are again after my countless post and ppl siding with me here and there and you and the ppl who side with you are throwing the exact same thing my way.
Ppl who have posted that they do not like this installment have given many multiple reason's for not liking it and your constant answer is "you dont get it"...it's getting old. As for the reason why im here....i was here before revolutions and just because I do not think like you does not merit asking that question. I am here to be the the negative to your positive...I more or less knew you and the "usual suspects" would find some excuse and stick behind it, Im here to open the path for ppl to tell the other side of the story and not feel like they are out of place or feel like they are to stupid to understand a watered down matrix movie.
Accept it!, I am here, and I "play" along the rules so keep your eye on me and wait for that moment where you're able to get rid of me because i'll tell you one thing it's not happening. What rule have I broken? NOTHING to make someone push that report to moderators button. im allowed my opinion and as you can see I know my limits, which makes me a hard person to get rid of. Perhaps I would'nt be so negative if someone gave me something other than the same ol' tired excuse that i have been hearing since yesterday which personaly is a true insult because you obviously think you are smarter than the average person, that no-one can have a different opinion on this movie. Correct me if im wrong but this is a place to discuss the matrix movies positive or negative so lay off me and start throwing some real content my way.
This is for Jedi..
I enjoy your posts and I also respectfully disagree with your view of this movie as a success. BECAUSE it only cater's to the DIE-HARD ani-matrix/enter-the-matrix/watched M1/M2 50 times crowd... and the shoot-em-up bunch - it leaves the everyman scratching his head. So bravo, you got it. Most people want a little more information. It won't last in theatre's very long. They'll still make a killing, though... this weekend anyhow. When TROTK airs, watch this movie's money tank - DVD to follow. Still time to clean up this mess for the masses. I got an idea: maybe they could explain things in their own words in the DVD? Think it will happen? Why not, if everthing can be explained???? Will be interesting to find out where this rabbit hole leads... one things for sure, Morpheus sure was dumbed down in this movie. he probably couldn't find is .... won't use that 'hole' metaphore. Keeping it clean!
Dude what the f*ck are you talking about?
Nobody wants to get rid of you. That BS is all in your head.
Now as far as someone liking or not liking the trilogy is just a matter of an opinion.
If you like it fine. Give your reasons and move on. If you hate it State why, and be clear why you hate it.
Dont just say it sucked, or give some half-A$$ example that had nothing to do with the three movies.
We are not here to block individual thought. As I stated in this thread, I will fight for anyone's right to express their opinion. I never try to out talk anyone who has an opinion that differs from my own.
You on the other hand IMO have a chip on your shoulder about the whole topic.
Now I agree with Ushgarak when he said that your attitude is becoming very tiresome.
Dude you need to let the Anger go.....
I don't even think you see it. ❌
There ya go Vizman you see they insult the commonfolk, but dont sell yourself short viz even they dont fully understand and still have questions of their own. I bought animatrix and as a gamer i would even come close to enter the matrix and yet Im supposed to fork over even more money to understand something that should be put out in the movie theatres...it's a marketing scheme and i did not fall for it in enter the matrix.
You may think you dont get it but in all reality viz there is not much to get. Do you know how deep reloaded was discussed here and some of these guys came up with things that would blow a persons mind away but i guess they are happy with this un-finished product. I had alot of respect for a lot of ppl here and because of the treatment, recycled answers and most importanly acceptance of this movie i have lost alot of that. What they dont seem to understand is that I did not dislike the entire movie go back and quote me on how I enjoyed the Zion battle but everything else fell short and not one of you guys who ponder so ddeply into what revolutions could have been can step up and say yes, yes it did come up short.
Urot: have i been giving half assed explanations.....look in the official thread read my first post, read the questions I still have. I have no anger towards these ppl that's were you're wrong...why would i waste my time with anger when it will not solve anything, I have been backing up my points of why i disliked this movie and all i get is "your ignorant, you dont get it" i guess you could say im growing tired, yes tired of hearing that.
DarkV - I appreciate the accolades. I also enjoyed the battle scenes. I havent' read all 100 plus post's here, but I have seen alot of high-and-mighty attitudes.
COME-ON-PEOPLE!!! Some LIKED THE MOVIE some DID NOT! No point in lowering to insults (although I admit, it is fun. So fire away. figuratively)
Granted, I did not like the movie in large part because questions were not answered to my liking. After reading some of Jedi's and others thoughts, I have learned some possibilities. And I thank you. But I also disliked the movie for the shallow character's and lack of additional characters that were interesting (the little girl was CUTE, but thats about it). There is NO amount of explanation that will explain this away.
...but I would of forgiven shallow characters if the BEAUTIFUL LOGIC PUZZLE the matrix had potential to be materialized in SOME fashion. Sadly, for me, neither was achieved with M3. I guess I'll go ahead and make my own sequel, but using cows rather than humans. Call it the MOOTRIX. Because for me, M3 was the BOOOOO-TRIX!
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