For those who did not like revo

DarkVirus

I have seen nothing but unintelligent disrespectful posts by you since I first signed up here, and you expect me to believe that you have some sort of intelligence to contribute to this forum? You b*tch incestently that we can only throw "Oh, well gee you just don't understand" at you like we've got our thumbs up our a$*es. When, infact, a great many of us, including myself, have explained this trilogy in great detail.

I myself have but only two questions about the movie, but I also understand why one of the answers was not given.

Question one is "Who is the Merovingian?" There are so many possibilities, but, I know why they did not elaborate. Between scenes being cut (Like the scene between Niobe and Ghost when the Logos needed a jump) and the fact that it would have taken atleast another movie, if not more, to go into the character developement on these characters that played no other part in this story than what you saw! Imagine where we'd be then, you'd be so upset that you spent money to see 10 movies instead of only 3!!! Exorcise your freedom of choice and don't watch it or have anything to do with it!

That leads me to my other question -- If you people wanted to see nothing but a mindless action movie, and you didn't like the first and/or the second Matrix movies, why did you think you would like the third? And why not go see something like "The Texas Chainsaw Massacure" "Underworld" Or "The Rundown"??

The Matrix trilogy, written in as a trilogy before 1996 as publicly stated by the Wakowskis and Warner Brothers, was not written as a mindless sci-fi action flick Terminator 3 rise of the mindless androids. It was written as a thoroughly deep movie begging at the fabric of our lives to decypher what it is that we are in all actuality looking for.

If you didn't like it, don't watch it and don't have anything to do with it...why waste your time? As many times as we've explained things you're obviously not going to listen and inturpret deeper meanings so live in a world of ignorance, one day you will regret it.

Vizman

No high and mighty attitudes here as far as I can see. I think that the majority of us are tired of hearing complaints about a movie that was not written to be "Stallone in Rambo 88: Man vs Machine" -- and DarkV has come across in only derrogatory mannors. Why should we have to listen to this? He's got access to the same information that we do, and if he doesn't like it and wants to talk about it, support it with facts. If we inform you that those facts are mislead, then be open minded and listen don't say no one's given you answers! I have not read one good arguement from a single person as to why the movie sucked so back. It was written solely as the last chapers of a novel, which means all the character developement is done, all the body of work building up to the climax was done, and the only thing left is the climax and conclusion. If you watch Revo with the mindset that it's a normal movie you will be disappointed just as if you picked up a novel and read just the last one third or less. You know what happens, you know who these people are, but with out the first two thirds it doesn't mean anything or make any connection.

What they were written as a trilogy in 1996!?...well thats news to me. From what I understand they were hoping to make a trilogy but did not know that far in advance that it would be such a hit so they wrote the first installment and went from there. Yeah you're absolutely right on that meta thats why i have gotten soooo much bad feedback in the last month and a half because everything i said has been negative 🙄. Now My opinion on this movie is negative because I feel I was let down. You have been another person from the get-go and here you are again insulting me because I do not think this movie was up to par.

Urot: go to the Official " i have seen revolutions thread" at the top and notice one thing I backed my points up and opened it up for discusion and BAM! right off the bat I get insulted by "you dont get it" and then i try again to add some more and BAM here it comes again (and again i might add) that i just dont get it. My questions are there and they are not anything anyone can help me with b/c there is no real answer for them but they are something's I would like to discuss.

Anyone who thinks I am angry at any member here is honestly wasting their time. I do not know you beyond this place so why would i waste my time being mad at any of you.....Im mad at the movie and this was a place to vent but, i get insulted and im not just gona sit there and take it im gonna go back and forth not angry of course becuase i find it fun and the whole time i sit here like this 😆 💃 .

Originally posted by Metamorphisis
[b]DarkVirus

I have seen nothing but unintelligent disrespectful posts by you since I first signed up here, and you expect me to believe that you have some sort of intelligence to contribute to this forum?

As many times as we've explained things you're obviously not going to listen and inturpret deeper meanings so live in a world of ignorance, one day you will regret it. [/B]

Did I hear someone say disrespectfull?...jee and you would be throwing compliments my way in that post huh? sooo you're saying im not entitled to my opinion and i need you to explain something to me so that im not ignorant...well if that's not an insult i dont know what is 😆

DarkVirus

Darkvirus said:

Hey well thanx there big guy, allow me to crap on your sunshine guy.

Hey meta thanx for acknowledging the fact that your just another dollar symbol on the ignorant express. Im sure they appreciate your business

These aren't derrogatory remarks? And there's more, all said by you. I am simply stating facts. And yes, the Wakoski Bros approched Warner Brothers with a Trilogy. Warner Bros wasn't even sure about letting them direct, so they wrote Bound and released it in 1996. After that Warner aggreed to allow them to make and direct the first Matrix movie, the second and third were contingent on the success or failure of the first. The scripts were adapted to the success of the first, and spread into virtually 7 parts if you include the AniMatrix, ETM, the Comix, and the online game.

You've still posted no facts, and only superficial opinions and derrogatory remarks. That is not an insult that is an insight. I personally do not care if you did not like the movie, I'm tired of explaining things to people who don't care to listen, or to support their remarks. If you're only going to bi7ch about the movie, why waste your time here? You're not contributing anything.

No facts? Go to some of the other threads and tell me I have'nt backed anything up. Other ppl are backing up many other things very well and there is no compromise here. You my friend are not worth my time, you seem to be the type that likes to hear yourself speak so carry on chap..

DarkVirus

Have you read your own posts? I'll admit, I've not read all your posts in other threads, but I can almost garentee you have not read any of mine. And I have yet to read a post of yours that didn't have a question or an insult in it, yet, ironically, no facts.

My PM box, and such has been flooded with questions with those who want to understand and I have been able to give answers, and so has many others (Omega, Jedi, Verity, Urot, etc)

Some of us have given better answers than others, but my point is the same. Your facts about plot holes don't hold water. I'll post you the answers you want, when you give me the questions.

So what is it you want answers for?

G-night all I gotta be at work in a few...

Until tomorrow night DarkV

Originally posted by Metamorphisis
[b]DarkVirusThe Matrix trilogy, written in as a trilogy before 1996 as publicly stated by the Wakowskis and Warner Brothers, was not written as a mindless sci-fi action flick Terminator 3 rise of the mindless androids. It was written as a thoroughly deep movie begging at the fabric of our lives to decypher what it is that we are in all actuality looking for.

If you didn't like it, don't watch it and don't have anything to do with it...why waste your time? As many times as we've explained things you're obviously not going to listen and inturpret deeper meanings so live in a world of ignorance, one day you will regret it. [/B]

The Matrix was NOT written as a trilogy. They lied when they said that, that is if they even said it to begin with. They wrote the last two because people kept making up stories to extend the first one (Animatrix), and they just wanted money. Directors lie a lot about that kind of stuff anyway.

And it is true that all you guys say to us is "Whatever you just dont understand it". You guys refuse to understand that not everyone likes the Matrix and that not every other movie that deals with the extreme what-if factor is bad. Terminator is not a stupid sci-fi flick about a bunch of mindless androids. What makes The Matrix a "a thoroughly deep movie begging at the fabric of our lives to decypher what it is that we are in all actuality looking for." ? Could the Matrix not just be another mindless sci fi flick about people with holes in their backs that transfer in and out of a world where they have super kung fu abilities and they all wear cool sunglasses? The Terminator is a movie about man being to smart for its own good. Sometimes we just fill our bags with more than they can hold.

I can interperet (notice how its spelled with an E) the deeper meaning of life in better ways than going to see some trendy, overrated movie. For example, I could do it MYSELF. How can you say that we are ignorant if we dont listen to the supposed "deeper meaning" of a movie?! Sure, you can be inspired to interperet the meaning of life in different ways by somehting, but you shouldn't be TOLD to do it!! Its your job to figure ou you. Besides, people who answer life's great questions (why are we here? what happens next? Why don't we know what we want to know?) are just dumbing down the nation by "answering" them. People see those answers and believe thats what they are, rather than figuring it out themselves which is what they should do.

Originally posted by Metamorphisis
[b]Urot
Poor Korri....I don't know whether to be happy for her or sad for her... 🙁 She got her wish - Trin is dead....but she lost her lover.... *sigh* 😛 [/B]

Urot> I don't think Korri ever really WANTED Trinity to DIE in the movies. It was just her way of expression total adoration for Neo.

Trinity? 😑

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i agree with plenTpak52
but the matrix is a mixture of two elements.

yes it does have deep inner meaning to it for the smart, but it also has guns and sun glasses for the stupid, plus its really cool! 🪩 so all in all its a movie for everybody, but what people are complaining about is the fact that revo did not have alot of guns and cool special fxs. if you think that the matrix is about guns and computer graphics, i agree with you, if you think the matrix has deep inner meaning to it, then i agree with you. it combines both of these two things, that is why its a trilogy for everybody

Originally posted by plenTpak52
I did not like Revolutions. I fully understood what was happening, I just did not understand why (when i say that I mean i dont understand why it was put in / remotely neccesary, no why it happened). Like the people who could walk on the ceiling, the french guy, the captains consant repeating of the phrase "god dammit!!", The whole Love is just a word/ karma is just a word bull shit. A lot of it was unneccesary and could have been told in a better way. But what is with the "love is jsut a word" crap? That makes NO sense.

I'm pretty sure the people could walk on the ceilings because they're vampiric programs. The Merovingian was needed so Neo could be rescued, but they should have had him and Persephone in more of the movie. "Love is just a word" was used because the programs could feel love, even though they don't have "emotions".

oh yeah. but why "karma is just a word"? that was not neccessary.They could have said it a lot better anyway.

Why did the guy have to be french anyway? Wasn't the last guy french too? I just say it was unneccessary because they were left right where they started. They made no deal, which i think made it useless.

They still did not have to walk on the ceilings. Even if they could, why would they need to? it was just stupid

Them walking on ceilings made it look cooler. And what other French guy are you talking about? And I can't remember what he said about Karma (other it just being a word), if you remember, then tell me.

There is no other French guy!

And 'just a word' was simply him explaining that it embodies a concept, and that concept is in no way closed to machines.

I think he meant Sati's father, but he's Indian, not French...

Ehrm... Karma IS just a word... It's the meaning we humans place IN that word which matters.

Originally posted by plenTpak52
The Matrix was NOT written as a trilogy. They lied when they said that, that is if they even said it to begin with. They wrote the last two because people kept making up stories to extend the first one (Animatrix), and they just wanted money. Directors lie a lot about that kind of stuff anyway.

Yes, you're correct, but they PLANNED to have a trilogy, but WB would only allow them to make one movie. (This is stated in Matrix Revisited)