The overall most powerfull character ever

I have the new Thanos comics and I can say this much from reading them.

Thanos blasts Galacticus with pretty much his best shot. It knocks off Galacticus's gay helmet and armor, but Thanos is no match for Galacticus.

I saw Beyonder take a mortal form. One of a female no less, and she is significantly weaker than Thanos. She blasted Thanos with her best shot, decimating everything in the area, and Thanos was fine.

from this i can say.

Galacticus is stronger than Thanos, and that Thanos is stronger than the Beyonder. Though the older more traditional Beyonder, that didn't assume a mortal form, could probably beat Thanos also.

Lord Chaos, Master Order, Death, and Eternity are all beings that exsist to create balance in the Marvel Universe. Chaos cannot exsist without order, death is inevitable, and Eternity is more a concept than a character. None of these types of cosmic beings should be considered in this argument because they are the embodyment of a concept....not an actual character.

(hard to make my point while typing it out)

the beyonder took the form of captian america but with black hair which is an improvement upon blonds. He was not more powerfull than himself, that is his limit. I think the original beyonder is more powerfull than all the concepts combined and that would include all the characters of marvel. In marvel universe, with the beyonder seperate, molecule man is probabley the most powerfull. Owen Reece.

that guy got worked by Wolverine. I was glad to see the little nerd boy get stabbed.

Originally posted by Austinzilla
and IF The Beyonder is the strongest, answer me this...WHY THE HELL DOES THE BEYONDER LOOK LIKE DONNY OSMOND!

lolol....gotta agree wit u there....but c'mon give 'em a break..it was a while ago when they made him up. Definitely looks too happy, but then again, so was everything back then...all fruity and yay. 😱

Originally posted by Austinzilla
Thanos is only second to galactus

Huh? Thanos without his relics (at normal power levels) drove back Galactus.

He also withstood Odin's assault.

Galactus is relatively LOW on the hierarchy.

I remember when Thanos took on Odin, back in the storyarc where Thor has Warrior's Madness or something....anyway, awesome fight.

Originally posted by norrin radd
Lord Chaos, Master Order, Death, and Eternity are all beings that exsist to create balance in the Marvel Universe. Chaos cannot exsist without order, death is inevitable, and Eternity is more a concept than a character. None of these types of cosmic beings should be considered in this argument because they are the embodyment of a concept....not an actual character.

that's not exactly true, yes they create balance but they have their own motives. Death and Abraxis in particular seek to destroy order and create chaos (death also wants a restraining order from Thanos and to bang deadpool-long story). and if i'm not mistaken, eternity was once a normal being named adam quantum. but if you don't count the universal brother, the living tribunal, and the abstracts, what your left with is Galactus, Thanos, The Beast (the one who guides the Hand), Mephisto, Dormammu, The Beyonder, Roma, who ever the hell rules limbo now (i think symm, nastirh, and Belasco are all dead), and the phoenix force

Like i said. In most recent times. In Thanos....ummm like 11-13 or something. He goes to some Universal prison to visit Death, then after that he confronts The Beyonder. Thanos beats the crap outta the Beyonder because it took the form of a female mortal body.

He/she/it's power was drastically limited by this choice of host body....so unless you're talking old school Beyonder...then that name should be left off the list.

Well, LT would probably be considered as the most powerful. However, LT has the ability to do whatever he wants (to keep the multiverse in balance), his abilities are much more subtle and do not necesserelly need the classical definition of power. so he is not really the most 'powerful' being in the classical sense, as he is beyond all concepts such as power and strength

Originally posted by Darth Jello
that's not exactly true, yes they create balance but they have their own motives. Death and Abraxis in particular seek to destroy order and create chaos (death also wants a restraining order from Thanos and to bang deadpool-long story). and if i'm not mistaken, eternity was once a normal being named adam quantum. but if you don't count the universal brother, the living tribunal, and the abstracts, what your left with is Galactus, Thanos, The Beast (the one who guides the Hand), Mephisto, Dormammu, The Beyonder, Roma, who ever the hell rules limbo now (i think symm, nastirh, and Belasco are all dead), and the phoenix force

how did you do your posting? i didn´t wright that it was linkalacious, but it appeared "originally posted by norrin radd" WHAT?????

i don't know.

i'm back....... but anyway, anybody who says thanos is amongst the top would have to re-check the source in which they draw thier conclusion from. yes he's very intelligent. yes he's very powerful BUT, he's nowhere near the top. in terms of sheer brute strength, mangog could dismantle thanos. also, thanos has never defeated odin. he made a statement by standing up to odin's punishment, but he in no way shape or form claimed a victory over him. there are tons of cosmic beings that have to be factored in. you can put them in order if you want, but me i'll just make my own list and keep it to myself. when the universe was threatened by the infinity gauntlet there was a cosmic brigade.... power houses at the time... kronos the titan god of time, the mysterious watcher, lord chaos and master order, the galactic balance, the power and enigmatic stranger, the mysterious embodiments of love and hate, the mighty destroyer of worlds Galactus, and eternity along with 2 celestials (it is popular belief that celestials are creations of eternity). living tribunal was also present, but he decided not to intervene, and later rendered the infinity gauntlet useless.

when faced with the peril of the Heart Of the Universe, there were much of the same cosmic entities present........inbetweener, galactus, stranger, hate, love, master order, lord chaos, infinity, the Entire race of celestials (thousands of them) zues and thor plus other elder gods, and a watcher (again)........... of coarse living tribunal was once again there, only this time even he was over come.....

once a long time ago, beyonder landed on the home world of the celestials, and humbled the entire race. this was pre-retcon. later it was revealed that what beyonder fought was merely illusions. his power was next to nothing to a single celestial. which would put him way down on the list........

1)whomever controls the heart

i'm back....... but anyway, anybody who says thanos is amongst the top would have to re-check the source in which they draw thier conclusion from. yes he's very intelligent. yes he's very powerful BUT, he's nowhere near the top. in terms of sheer brute strength, mangog could dismantle thanos. also, thanos has never defeated odin. he made a statement by standing up to odin's punishment, but he in no way shape or form claimed a victory over him. there are tons of cosmic beings that have to be factored in. you can put them in order if you want, but but it will take to much time to do it.

when the universe was threatened by the infinity gauntlet there was a cosmic brigade.... power houses at the time... kronos the titan god of time, the mysterious watcher, lord chaos and master order, the galactic balance, the power and enigmatic stranger, the mysterious embodiments of love and hate, the mighty destroyer of worlds Galactus, and eternity along with 2 celestials (it is popular belief that celestials are creations of eternity). living tribunal was also present, but he decided not to intervene, and later rendered the infinity gauntlet useless.

when faced with the peril of the Heart Of the Universe, there were much of the same cosmic entities present........inbetweener, galactus, stranger, hate, love, master order, lord chaos, infinity, the Entire race of celestials (thousands of them) zues and thor plus other elder gods, and a watcher (again)........... of coarse living tribunal was once again there, only this time even he was over come.....

once a long time ago, beyonder landed on the home world of the celestials, and humbled the entire celestial host. this was pre-retcon. later it was revealed that what beyonder fought was merely illusions. his power was next to nothing to a single celestial. which would put him way down on the list........

1)whomever controls the heart

2)living tribunal

3) eternity, infinity, death
3 1/2)kronos (titan god of time) (not sure where to place him)
4)lord chaos, master order, master hate, mistress love

5) celestials, phoenix force

6)galactus

7)stranger/watchers.....

i know i have left some out, but this is all i can recall off hand without doing more research. but i'm sure most of them are the "top of the food chain" so to speak......

How is Living Tribunal #1 when Thanos with The Infinity Gauntlet defeated him?

he didn't.....

Plus, the Inifity Gauntlet isn't Thanos...Shadowcat with the Infintity Gauntlet could be Galactus, doesn't mean she's better.

*sigh* Just messing with Juggernautfan again. Noboby was supposed to mess it up 😠 Wasn't the IG, it was THOTU.

Made this list before. Will post it again.

Most powerful in Marvel and DC.

Marvel:

1. Thanos (with heart of the universe)
2. Living Tribunal
3. Adam Warlock (with Infinity Gauntlet)
4. Death
5. Eternity
6. Infinity
7. Galactus
8. Celestials
9. Master Order/ Lord Chaos
10. Eon
11. Epoch
12. Chton
13. Dark Gods/ Elder Gods
14. Eternals
15. Korvak
16. Shaper of Worlds
17. Beyonder
18. Phoenix Force
19. Hyperstorm
20. Franklin Richards
21. Molecule Man
22. Asgardian Destroyer
23. Pantheon of Gods
24. Kubik
25. Mephisto
26. Satan

DC:

1. The Presence
2. The Source
3. Rama Kushna
4. H'ronmeer
5.Meshta
6.Gyges and Garamas (with God power)
7.Great Evil Beast (appeared in an issue in which the Infinity Avengers kinda ripped off if you read it carefully)
8.Spectre at his full potential (omnipotent is unbeatable rather you're omnipresent or omniscient)
9. Mawu (the religious God of Africa shown in Spectre #58 )
10.The Voice (An entity part of the Presence)
11.The Word
12. Wally the God Boy
13. Lucifer Morningstar
14. Archangel Michael
15. The Aleph
16.Decreator
17. The 5th Dimensional Imps (Mr. Mxyzptlk, Bane-Mite, and Thunderbolts)
18. Ultimator, and other races and beings include 4d to 10d
19. ID (A 6th dimensional being created by the Cathexis that could fullfill one's wish. Unlimited Powers)
20. Parallax
21. Ion
22. Uni-Friend
23. Anti-Life Entity
24. Eclipso
25. Mistos
26. Satan
27. Stigmonus Monsieur
28. Sinestro after death when he faced the Spectre
29.First of the Fallen
30. Azmodus
31. DC's Archangels- Gabriel (probably most powerful archangel next to Michael), Amenadiel, Sandalphon, Ramiel, Duma, ect.
32 DC's Angel Host- Bull Host, Eagle, Lion, and Human rather Zauriel and Asmodel at angelic form
33. Anti-Monitor and Monitor
34. Hyperman
35. The Endless
36. Entropy (Krona)
37. Kismet
38.Dominus
39. Oblivion
40. Chaos and Order (2 elemental force)
41. Lord of Chaos/Lord of Order
42.Black Racer
43. The Kindly Ones
44. Voiceless Gods
45. Mahu
46.Seviram
47. That giant monster Lucifer unleashed to stop Amenadiel's army, and anything Lucifer has faced
48. A
49. King of Tears
50. Hawkgod
51. Elder Gods
52.Dark Gods
53.Shattered Gods
54. Rao, and other gods of Krypton
55. Candlemaker
56.Dorothy Spinner (IMO, imp-like level in which she can create by thinking it)
57. Telephone Avatar
58. Shadowy Mr. Evans
59. Carnivore (Almost took over heaven)
60. Anti-Matter Man
61. Glorith and the original Time Trapper
62. Promethian Giants
63. Millennium Giants
64. Extant
65. Monarch
66. The Seven Deadly Enemy of Man
67. Cosmic Gamblers
68. S'ivaa the Destroyer
69. Brimstone
70. Pantheon gods- African like Shango the Thunderer, Oloron the First Born, Norse gods like Odin and Loki, Greek gods like Zeus and Hercules, Japanese gods like Susano-o-no-makota and Izanami, Egypton gods like Osirect and Ra, ect.
71. The Unimaginables
72. Ibac/Sabbac- the 2 Capt. Marvel villain which 1 was a clone and another had power like with black magic
73. Neron, the demon that demoted Neron from hell, Abaddon the Destroyer, Adramelech, Agony & Ectacy, One in Charge of Punishment of the Damned in Effrul, Keeper of the Oracle of Styx, and since I don't feel like listing everyone from hell, I'll just estimate: 300-400 leaders/higher rank in Hell
74. The 3 Demons- Rath, Ghast, and Abnegazar
75. The race who got rid of the demons- Timeless Ones
76. Lord Satanis
77. Lord Satanus
78. Second and Third of the Fallen (Brothers of First of the Fallen)
79. Mad God of 3600
80. The First Citadelian and his clone armies and the other Citadelians
81. Oblivion II- one that faced Wonder Woman
82. Auron
83. X'Hal
84. Superman Prime
85. Everyone in the 853rd Century including Manhunter from Mars
86. Wonderworld race and heroes
87. Maggedon
88. Old Gods- Wotan, Lokee, Arzaz, Nameless One
89. Guardian of the Universe
90. Controllers
91. Zamarons
92. Progenitor- This guy created his own galaxy and a whole race
93. Fernus and the Burning Martians
94. Anti-Sun
95. Imperiex Prime and Imperiex probes
96. Yuga Khan
97. Nebula Man
98. Orion at his true form (the one that Astro once posted in Alvaro's)
99. Orion with the ALE
100. Darkseid one with the Source from NG v4
101. Izaya one with the Source in a New Gods v4 issue
102. Euricros
103. Clocxwerk
104. Hourman 3/Warlogog

Originally posted by Never

DC:

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73. Neron, the demon that demoted Neron from hell, Abaddon the Destroyer, Adramelech, Agony & Ectacy, One in Charge of Punishment of the Damned in Effrul, Keeper of the Oracle of Styx, and since I don't feel like listing everyone from hell, I'll just estimate: 300-400 leaders/higher rank in Hell

Are the demons in DC really that powerful? I mean, Etrigan conquered Hell (because Lucifer was too bored to stop him, granted), and he isn't even powerful enough to defeat Superman.

A lot of them are, yes.

Originally posted by Never
*sigh* Just messing with Juggernautfan again. Noboby was supposed to mess it up 😠 Wasn't the IG, it was THOTU.

Made this list before. Will post it again.

Most powerful in Marvel and DC.

Marvel:

1. Thanos (with heart of the universe)
2. Living Tribunal
3. Adam Warlock (with Infinity Gauntlet)
4. Death
5. Eternity
6. Infinity
7. Galactus
8. Celestials
9. Master Order/ Lord Chaos
10. Eon
11. Epoch
12. Chton
13. Dark Gods/ Elder Gods
14. Eternals
15. Korvak
16. Shaper of Worlds
17. Beyonder
18. Phoenix Force
19. Hyperstorm
20. Franklin Richards
21. Molecule Man
22. Asgardian Destroyer
23. Pantheon of Gods
24. Kubik
25. Mephisto
26. Satan

well i know that atleast some of this list is well....... off. galactus should be below the celestials. also, i don't think it's been established that eternity infinity or death have a definite edge in terms of power. i think they are all equal.... could you show me proof stating other wise? plus the phoenix force is waaaay down on the list, when she subdued galactus??? i think your list is pretty good other than that...

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
well i know that atleast some of this list is well....... off. galactus should be below the celestials. also, i don't think it's been established that eternity infinity or death have a definite edge in terms of power. i think they are all equal.... could you show me proof stating other wise? plus the phoenix force is waaaay down on the list, when she subdued galactus??? i think your list is pretty good other than that...

Re: Galactus and Celestials: I daresay this says it all.

"It has been well established that Galactus is a fundamental component of the Marvel Universe, and that the Marvel Universe ceases when Galactus ceases."

So...who is more powerful, even if indirectly?

Re: Infinity, Eternity, and Death: Quick question. Can you tell me how much more powerful they are over each other? Is it "definite?" Incremental? A hair more powerful? I do not think that the list references HUGE differences in power, and it will decrease (the differences) the higher up the ladder you go. For example, DC Comics - how much more powerful is The Presence over The Source?

Re: Phoenix Force: Yes, the Phoenix Force sans a host. Do remember that the Phoenix Force is an entity and it needs a host. Regarding him losing to Rachel, okay okay alright. He was HUNGRY. Now if Galactus absorbed his homeworld and was fully powered...I will never in life suggest that Rachel could defeat him.

Thank you for the compliment.