Batman Would Win
Batman would be Wolverine the same way Wolverine beat Lady Deathstrike in the X-men sequel. Some liquid hot adamantium in the brain. We all know he would not miss because Wolverine is presumptuous and would not hesitate to dodge a projectile attack from Batman because of his healing factor.
Even if it were a first time meeting fight Batman definately has the stamina and skills to keep away for long enough to figure out just how he works.
Wizard I believe (96?) did Batman vs Spider-man. If he can overcome spider-man and his reflexes, surely he can beat Wolverine.
Re: Batman Would Win
Originally posted by Xero1186
Even if it were a first time meeting fight Batman definately has the stamina and skills to keep away for long enough to figure out just how he works.
The same goes for Wolverine, you know, so that's hardly an advantage for Batman. Besides, how on earth will Batman know he has to fight Wolverine from a long distance ? Even if he knows of his claws, in a first time fight he would probably fight him at close range, avoiding his claws and trying to knock him down, which I don't recommend because Batman could break his hands.
Then he will realize that he doesn't have the power to actually hurt Wolverine, he only has the power to annoy Logan a bit, to slow him down, maybe confuse him a bit. But that would be all Batman is able to do to Wolverine.
If he's stupid enough to fight him in close range, Batman will enter a world of pain and humiliation. And he probably will fight him close-combat style, because Batman has no reason whatsoever to assume that Wolverine can't be truly hurt by him (only a little bit), and that Wolverine just keeps coming.
Another thing : when it comes down to stamina and so, Wolverine wins. No argue here. He can kick ass all night without breaking a sweat, thanks to his mutated physiology. Batman can't do this in the same way as Wolverine.
Originally posted by Keysersoze
Long time ago when Batman wore a trade mark grey suite with robin saying such crazy phases as "Holy Cow!" and so on. i would put him as a formidable Opponent for the classic wolverine. Even when Tim Burton changed the caped crusader to black rubbered val kilmer he would of taken some battling before he lost. but ever since joel schumacher batman became a second rate hero will he regain his former glow?! I hope so! but at the mo wolverine Takes the Bat easy still woud of been close!
Re: Re: Batman Would Win
Originally posted by who?-kid
Then he will realize that he doesn't have the power to actually hurt Wolverine, he only has the power to annoy Logan a bit, to slow him down, maybe confuse him a bit. But that would be all Batman is able to do to Wolverine.
LoL, again you clearly need to brush up on your Batman knowledge.
He had enough power to hurt SUPERMAN. Who the hell is WOLVERINE? And...dare I say it? Why, yes I will. DID ELEKTRA HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO KICK WOLVERINE'S ASS AND LEAVE HIM FOR DEAD? LoL
And erm Arachnoid, how does Wolverine "win physically?" His ONLY physical advantage is his healing factor which can very EASILY be circumvented. Batman is the better FIGHTER, HAND TO HAND COMBATANT, and martial artist.
Same with the adamantium skeleton. That can be easily voided. So you were saying?
You Wolverine fans are incredibly ignorant. Batman has gas capsules, blinding sprays, et al in his utility belt. YES Wolverine can be blinded. YES he can be poisoned. If he can discern Daredevil's weakness in a matter of seconds (and CLEARLY you all forgot that he is considered the SECOND greatest detective in the entire DC Universe behind Sherlock Holmes), then he can QUICKLY determine that Wolverine's skeleton is protected. He does NOT go in punching his hardest and I can cite SEVERAL battles. He TESTS first. Punch, parry, counter.
yes, Wolverine has the advantage physically, it doesnt matter how many times batman punches wolverine in the face, it will still hurt batman more than Wolverine. and im not just another ignorant Wolverine fan, im a comic book fan. like i said before, hand to hand, wolverine can just out last batman, but if batman has certain gadgets on his person at the time, as you said gas capsules, sprays, even ultrasonic devices or electrical charges, Batman would have the advantage. really, it depends on the situation.
i remember one issue where daredevil karate chopped wolverine in the throat. that stopped wolvi dead cold. im assuming that batman would use the same tactics, hit wolvi in pressure points. pressure points are found in areas where there is no bone structure to protect it. one fact im wondering about is, although wolvi's bones can't get broken or fractured, can he suffer from dislocation? take note that dislocation applies to joints, it doesn't mean that the bone is broken. when you dislocate your shoulder that doesn't mean that you broke it. so what if batman used some jujitsu on wolverine and dislocated his joints.
I belive Bat's could take Wolverine...but Wizard decided he could take Spiderman in a random encounter? obviously Parker is not stupid, Bats can out wit him with out serious effort......but If the two decided to fight on the drop of a hat Im pretty sure Spiderman would kick the living crap outa bat's.
I mean ASSUMING Bat's dosent know how to counter Spidersense threw technical means((I belive very few beside Green Goblin has figured out how to do that)) and all he has is smoke bombs bat-a-rangs and such I cant see Bat's lasting more than 2 minutes. I mean Green Goblin posses gadgets specifically for use agaisnt Spidey and is much stronger than Batman, not to mention Norman was also brilliant yet Spiderman can outwit and beat him pysically. Im going to say Wizard was quite biased in there Spiderman vs Batman theory.
but back to subject Bat's would take Wolvie
I hate Batman. I think he's a bullshit character. I think that DC realized that they had a character who had no super powers, so they made him be able to beat up everyone, regardless of how much more powerful they are. And yeah, some people view him as the ultimate hero, because he fights with no super powers, but I still think it's bullshit and politics.
Yep, i do agree with you irish. i think dc writers are giving batman tooooo much credit that they overplay his skills. i don't think that its really possible for a human to go toe to toe with mutants and powerful indiviuals, just in the same way that no man in his 30's could master 40 different martial arts disciplines. but since the writers described batman this way, i give credit where credit is due. batman wins because of his fighting ability.
Re: Re: Re: Batman Would Win
Originally posted by Never
LoL, again you clearly need to brush up on your Batman knowledge.He had enough power to hurt SUPERMAN. Who the hell is WOLVERINE? And...dare I say it? Why, yes I will. DID ELEKTRA HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO KICK WOLVERINE'S ASS AND LEAVE HIM FOR DEAD? LoL
And erm Arachnoid, how does Wolverine "win physically?" His ONLY physical advantage is his healing factor which can very EASILY be circumvented. Batman is the better FIGHTER, HAND TO HAND COMBATANT, and martial artist.
Same with the adamantium skeleton. That can be easily voided. So you were saying?
You Wolverine fans are incredibly ignorant. Batman has gas capsules, blinding sprays, et al in his utility belt. YES Wolverine can be blinded. YES he can be poisoned. If he can discern Daredevil's weakness in a matter of seconds (and CLEARLY you all forgot that he is considered the SECOND greatest detective in the entire DC Universe behind Sherlock Holmes), then he can QUICKLY determine that Wolverine's skeleton is protected. He does NOT go in punching his hardest and I can cite SEVERAL battles. He TESTS first. Punch, parry, counter.
You know, you have quite an annoying habit, calling everybody who doesn't agree with your point of view "Wolverine fans". That's a bit lame, wouldn't you think so ? It's also an old trick.
I'm not that kind of Wolverine fan. He's okay, and sometimes even cool. But in a fight against Hulk, he would go down. Same when fighting Spider-Man. Probably also Captain America (not sure though). But not against Batman. Never.
Another bad habit of yours is talking lots of blabla without backing it up. And no, quoting or describing old battles doesn't prove one thing. It's Batman against Wolverine. Leave the other heroes alone.
Example of saying something without the slightest proof :"then he can QUICKLY determine that Wolverine's skeleton is protected" : well, that's what YOU say. Prove it. If you can't, don't mention it.
Another example :"Same with the adamantium skeleton. That can be easily avoided." O yeah ? How ? Please enlighten me.
Another example : "Batman is the better FIGHTER, HAND TO HAND COMBATANT, and martial artist." Again, that's what YOU say (I'm not arguing about the martial stuff however, but it won't help him very much). And if Batman is such a great fighter, how come he has problems fighting somebody like, let's say, Judge Dredd ? If he has the power to hurt Superman (hahaha, you disappoint me, Never), I'm sure a puny human as Dredd can't be a problem ?
I saved the best for last => "His ONLY physical advantage is his healing factor which can very EASILY be circumvented." : Only ? Easily ? if you say so. Again, how ? By the way, I would call his
- unbreakable claws
- his enhanced senses
- his enhanced stamina
- unbreakable skeleton
- his durability
also physical advantages ! He can take much more pain than Batman can give him. And let's not forget his experience, he was fighting about 70 years when Batman was still in diapers sucking on his thumb !!
It's funny how you Batman fans are ignorant about these well-known facts.
Im going to point out its Wolverines Skeleton thats durable, not his Skin and tissue.
Wolverine has the same body as a peak human, somthing that Batman also is and Probably second to only those like Black Panther and Captain America
basically the 800 lb strength guys
he can be cut and stabbed as easily as them.
Wolverine has a unbreakable Skeleton
Spiderman has a denser more durable body
Wolverine is strong for a human but I dont think he has durability worth mentioning, he bleeds just like every body else
but every other fact you mentioned I belive counts
- unbreakable claws
- his enhanced senses
- his enhanced stamina
- unbreakable skeleton
Re: Re: Re: Re: Batman Would Win
Originally posted by who?-kid
Another bad habit of yours is talking lots of blabla without backing it up.
Little tard, please. Quite difficult to "back a POTENTIAL" fight up with concrete evidence, is it NOT? I systematically shoot down your bankrupt attempts at rationalizing Wolverine's alleged superiority to Batman EVERY time, and MOST who have read the thread sans the anti-Batman fans agreed.
:"then he can QUICKLY determine that Wolverine's skeleton is protected"
Punch. "Ow." DUH. That being said, PLEASE point out how many battles an opponent clunked Wolverine's head, chest, arm, leg and walked away with a broken hand? Did HULK? No. Silver Samurai? No. Elektra? No. Omega Red? No. Marrow? No. Archangel? No. Colossus? No. Spiderman? No. Sabretooth? No. So much for that OVERRATED "advantage" that you yahoo all over this messageboard. He is a DETECTIVE, nitwit - it is what he DOES. Next?
Same with the adamantium skeleton. That can be easily avoided."
Learn how to quote me verbatim. I said VOIDED. Not AVOIDED. Refer to the post above. Exactly HOW MANY heroes/foes walked away with broken hands/feet/fingers after PUNCHING Wolverine? Apparently you THINK (that's ALL you do) that one has to punch Wolverine DIRECTLY on his noggin/his chest to HURT him. LoL
Batman is the better FIGHTER, HAND TO HAND COMBATANT, and martial artist
Let's compare who has stalemated/WHIPPED WOLVERINE'S ASS in hand to hand with who has stalemated/whipped Batman's ass in hand to hand. You will lose. I DARE you to accept the challenge so that I can embarass your ass right here, right now.
He can take much more pain than Batman can give him.
LoL, he can "take much more pain than Batman can give him?" You are indeed clueless. Since when was Wolverine immune to pain? LMAO, AGAIN, shall I type for you his response to Elektra stabbing him through his lungs? She walked AWAY. THAT is the ONLY reason he lived. HE SAID SO. Like a quote? The book is sitting right here on my left.
What the hell is the point in mentioning his "enhanced senses?" Is this an easter egg hunt? LoL those SENSES are oftentimes his undoing, dork - for example, Hulk's THUNDERCLAP? Ding, Wolverine is susceptible to SONICS. His enhanced sense of taste? Ding, Wolverine can be POISONED. His enhanced vision? Ding, Wolverine can be BLINDED.
Guess what Batman carries around on the regular in his wittle utility belt?
And um...
"- unbreakable claws
- his enhanced senses
- his enhanced stamina
- unbreakable skeleton"
Why didn't these help him against Elektra? Spiderman? Sabretooth? Marrow? Omega Red? Archangel? I mean...do we REALLY need to run off the list of less than stellar combatants who have torched REGULAR Wolverine?
well...I should have been more specific, I belive those are his abilities, not really things Batman has to truimph over becuase a list can also be made for him
-Intellegence
-Insane fighting capapbility
-lots of gizmos
but I will move on....
and tho its off topic and just opinion I belive Spiderman is one of the best hand to hand fighters in marvel.
no he isnt a orthodox fighter but his Stregth, Speed, reflexs, agility make him more than a match for down to earth heros.