Originally posted by Juntai
Both of these characters are. Some are just more prone to understanding that fact.
Yeah, but even the worst fanboy won't seriously argue it's not PIS in the case of Batman, because he doesn't have any powers. Usually, they stick to arguing prep god bs.
Add powers to the mix, like with Slade, and you'll start getting serious arguments that he can hold his own with Wonder Woman.. v_V
I can kind of understand why Ennis doesn't like powers...
Originally posted by Juntaithe difference between the two when it comes to Pis is Batman's pis rises the more powerful his opponent is and Wolverine's pis moments occur when his power is scaled back for a street lvler opponent doesnt get killed when facing him.
Both of these characters are. Some are just more prone to understanding that fact.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine only has street level stats, a healing factor and metal skeleton.
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Thor has called him fast, Spiderman has called him fast, Namor admitted he couldn't beat Wolverine and would have died if Wolverine wasn't mind controlled...Wolverine has some of the best showings against Hulk. He has outright defeated Herc. Lol at street level stats. No wonder Srank doesn't take you serious.
Originally posted by carver9
😆Thor has called him fast, Spiderman has called him fast, Namor admitted he couldn't beat Wolverine and would have died if Wolverine wasn't mind controlled...Wolverine has some of the best showings against Hulk. He has outright defeated Herc. Lol at street level stats. No wonder Srank doesn't take you serious.
And yet, he has hundreds of feats where he's injured by those far below cl 100.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine only has street level stats, a healing factor and metal skeleton.
Since apparently you are too stupid to understand that there are different power combinations that can counter the typical brick powerset, just pretend Wolverine's healing factor feats are accomplished via durability and all his Adamantium claw feats via super strength. Is it really so difficult to comprehend that Wolverine's healing factor is so fast that it affords him damage soak on par with top tier bricks, and that his Adamantium claws give him enough armor pen to cut up those said bricks without needing class 100 strength? It's not a complicated equation. High durability was subbed out for a healing factor. Super strength was subbed out for Adamantium weaponry. Two different power combinations... same end results.
Your post is almost as stupid as saying one of the fallowing:
"How does Invisible Woman take class 100 blows? She doesn't have peak human stats!!!"
"How does Iron Fist damage high tier bricks? He doesn't even have superhuman strength!"
Originally posted by Silent Master
And yet, he has hundreds of feats where he's injured by those far below cl 100.
Duuh, no one is saying he is indestructible because he isn't...he have a healing factor for a reason. The problem is keeping him down and I promise you don't want to resort to lowballing. For a meta, Wolverine have some of the best fts when it comes to blunt force and still fighting while damaged. You might have 100's where he was damaged by street levelers which again, isn't as bad as you are making it but Wolverine have THOUSANDS of showings of him withstanding attacks from class 50 and above.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Since apparently you are too stupid to understand that there are different power combinations that can counter the typical brick powerset, just pretend Wolverine's healing factor feats are accomplished via durability and all his Adamantium claw feats via super strength. Is it really so difficult to comprehend that Wolverine's healing factor is so fast that it affords him damage soak on par with top tier bricks, and that his Adamantium claws give him enough armor pen to cut up those said bricks without needing class 100 strength? It's not a complicated equation. High durability was subbed out for a healing factor. Super strength was subbed out for Adamantium weaponry. Two different power combinations... same end results.Your post is almost as stupid as saying one of the fallowing:
"How does Invisible Woman take class 100 blows? She doesn't have peak human stats!!!"
"How does Iron Fist damage high tier bricks? He doesn't even have superhuman strength!"
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Originally posted by Silent Master
And yet, he has hundreds of feats where he's injured by those far below cl 100.
What's your point? His power is a healing factor, not invulnerability, he isn't immune to damage, he simply recovers from it quickly. Logan has more or less baseline human durability (relative to the big guns at least), hurting him isn't difficult, putting him down and keeping him there is.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Since apparently you are too stupid to understand that there are different power combinations that can counter the typical brick powerset, just pretend Wolverine's healing factor feats are accomplished via durability and all his Adamantium claw feats via super strength. Is it really so difficult to comprehend that Wolverine's healing factor is so fast that it affords him damage soak on par with top tier bricks, and that his Adamantium claws give him enough armor pen to cut up those said bricks without needing class 100 strength? It's not a complicated equation. High durability was subbed out for a healing factor. Super strength was subbed out for Adamantium weaponry. Two different power combinations... same end results.Your post is almost as stupid as saying one of the fallowing:
"How does Invisible Woman take class 100 blows? She doesn't have peak human stats!!!"
"How does Iron Fist damage high tier bricks? He doesn't even have superhuman strength!"
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What's your point? His power is a healing factor, not invulnerability, he isn't immune to damage, he simply recovers from it quickly. Logan has more or less baseline human durability (relative to the big guns at least), hurting him isn't difficult, putting him down and keeping him there is.
If Wolverine's healing factor is the reason he can tank cl 100 hits, then the hundreds of feats where he's injured by those far below cl 100 are PIS.
Is that your position?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine only has street level stats, a healing factor and metal skeleton.
Street lv stats? Lulz. No. Both handbooks and comics show otherwise.
And let's not forget he has hyper senses, exceptional fighting skills and those blades that can cut through damn near everything which are a part of him.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If Wolverine's healing factor is the reason he can tank cl 100 hits, then the hundreds of feats where he's injured by those far below cl 100 are PIS.Is that your position?
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Wolverine should have only Supervillains who are CL100, else it doesn't make sense that skilled fighters can and have beat him.
Originally posted by Silent Master
If Wolverine's healing factor is the reason he can tank cl 100 hits, then the hundreds of feats where he's injured by those far below cl 100 are PIS.Is that your position?
Can somebody tell me what kind of argument this is? I have never seen anything like it before?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Street lv stats? Lulz. No. Both handbooks and comics show otherwise.
His stats are comparable to Cap's, which are peak human.
And let's not forget he has hyper senses, exceptional fighting skills and those blades that can cut through damn near everything which are a part of him. [/B][/QUOTE]
None of those would help him tank cl 100 hits.