Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha...with that said, Flash moving at light speed is PIS since he has been pimp slapped by a human that throws boomerangs and choked slammed by Captain Cold and tied up by Nightwing, and kicked in the chest by Batman and mistreated by Deathstroke.Thanks for clearing that up with me with your precise debating skills. Let me prepare to make a Flash vs Jubilee thread.
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Actually you got nothing^^. As the powers of an enemie can differ and give him the ability to tag Flash for example. On the other hand, everyone can hurt wolverine, because he ain't invulnerable 😉. You still don't know what reason is i guess. 😄
The Wolverine wanking is ok, but giving Batman what he deserves is bad. It's not like Bats never beat better man then Logan^^.
Skill wise wolverine should be comparable to batman and/or captain America.
But stat wise: strength, speed, healing factor, senses... Should all go to wolverine
You toss gear to Bruce... But what's it gonna do?
Cables can be cut through.
Gas should be negated by healing factor.
Flash grenades wouldn't do much against wolverines other senses once sight is momentarily inhibited.
In a point match fight? Like boxing or UFC style I'd give it to Bruce for finesse and overall ability as wolverine has a tendency to rely on helis powers and feralness
But in a winner take all death match? I'd go wolverine fairly easily. It would be difficult as heck to out wolverine down for good.
My power level analysis.
Strength Logan the mutie is enhanced(but the gap isn't like Spiderman and Bruce)
Durability....Logan(the gap is huge due to Adam)
Speed.....Logan( he has enhance speed)
Reflex(close but again Logan)
Skills(Batman is more skilled but Logan is not far behind)
Weapons Batman might have to pull out his more lethal weapons once he realizes his standard attacks don't seem to be working due to Logan's incredible healing.
He can play keep away well with his climbing utilities but other then that.
Logan 7/10
Originally posted by Daredevil1
My power level analysis.Strength Logan the mutie is enhanced(but the gap isn't like Spiderman and Bruce)
Durability....Logan(the gap is huge due to Adam)
Speed.....Logan( he has enhance speed)
Reflex(close but again Logan)
Skills(Batman is more skilled but Logan is not far behind)
Weapons Batman might have to pull out his more lethal weapons once he realizes his standard attacks don't seem to be working due to Logan's incredible healing.
He can play keep away well with his climbing utilities but other then that.
Logan 7/10
You forgot about the mindset: Batman is here to stop Wolverine, Wolverine is going for the kill.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Actually you got nothing^^. As the powers of an enemie can differ and give him the ability to tag Flash for example. On the other hand, everyone can hurt wolverine, because he ain't invulnerable 😉. You still don't know what reason is i guess. 😄The Wolverine wanking is ok, but giving Batman what he deserves is bad. It's not like Bats never beat better man then Logan^^.
Lets not use Flash feats here. The Flash is an incredibly inconsistent character. In his original form he could actually-
-Slow down time to a crawl. Making any feat possible in the confines of his ability to process the feat needed to be achieved.
-Can create burst speeds whilst still retaining normal human processing ability to achieve his objective.
Flash almost ran into Deadshot's blade. In the animations Kid Flash and others stumble and trip when almost running into traps.
In the original Flash comics. Barry was able to slow down time watching events around him move at a snail's pace yet a few issues later he took on the Turtle who tricked him into running into a basic visual illusions like drawn pictures in walls whilst the Turtle just behind him entered a sewer.
So what is Flash? A man who can slow down time and put many different codes into a pinpad? Or a man who can just create burst speeds whilst still retain normal human thought?
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Actually you got nothing^^. As the powers of an enemie can differ and give him the ability to tag Flash for example. On the other hand, everyone can hurt wolverine, because he ain't invulnerable 😉. You still don't know what reason is i guess. 😄The Wolverine wanking is ok, but giving Batman what he deserves is bad. It's not like Bats never beat better man then Logan^^.
Huh? Did you just read what you posted? So Captain Cold and Deathstroke have light speed reflexes?
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
You forgot about the mindset: Batman is here to stop Wolverine, Wolverine is going for the kill.
Where Is it stated in the thread batman aims to stop while wolverine kills?
I mean other than fighting in character... Logan can show restraint when not in berserker mode and against heroes?
If it is as you stated batman is screwed!
Even just to put the other down... Wolverine 8/10.
Pressure points aren't gonna be easy to apply against someone who knows them too.
Originally posted by rotiart
Where Is it stated in the thread batman aims to stop while wolverine kills?
I mean other than fighting in character... Logan can show restraint when not in berserker mode and against heroes?If it is as you stated batman is screwed!
Even just to put the other down... Wolverine 8/10.
Pressure points aren't gonna be easy to apply against someone who knows them too.
Wolverine is functionally immune to pressure points.
With out prep Batman doesn't get a single win. Wolverine could sit down in a rocking chair and let Batman t off on him without mounting any resistance, and Batman would pass out from exhaustion before Wolverine was anywhere near being knocked out. Hell, it would be a vacation compared to what he usually spends his days doing.